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4/25/13 9:36 PM
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4/25/13 9:48 PM
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RearNakedToke - Saw this forever ago. Good ol Wayne getting down in there.

Any backstory on this? I know Ken and Funaki and those guys were Pro-wrestling and doing catch, how did they find Nielsen and get him to agree to the fight? Was there a rivalry? Any buildup/promos for this? Phone Post 3.0

There was a big rivalry between the kickboxers and the catch wrestlers in Japan. That's why you see so much emotion after Shamrock wins from all of the Japanese catch wrestlers who storm the ring. They were overjoyed. When Shamrock won, it was a victory for them essentially, a victory for their style. In an old subfighter video they show Nielson with his head buried in shame in his towel after the fight in the locker room as if he let down his martial art.

I don't think there was any buildup out of the ordinary for this because most of the Japanese fans thought ALL the pro wrestling matches were real in Fujiwara Gumi.

4/26/13 8:16 PM
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4/26/13 8:35 PM
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Wow Thanks Very much!!!! Osu!
4/26/13 8:50 PM
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The show right before this (IIRC) featured Fujiwara vs Nielson. Nielson made Fujiwara look bad and stopped him in a minute or two IIRC. Probably legit.

Then they fed him to Ken.

Ken briefly mentioned this fight in his 2nd book.
4/29/13 10:11 AM
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4/29/13 11:10 AM
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4/29/13 3:28 PM
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William Colosimo - The show right before this (IIRC) featured Fujiwara vs Nielson. Nielson made Fujiwara look bad and stopped him in a minute or two IIRC. Probably legit.

Then they fed him to Ken.

Ken briefly mentioned this fight in his 2nd book.

I can;t find any footage of the Nielsen vs Fujiwara match to see if it is a legit shoot. All I could find was this thread from a Pro Wrestling forum that had a now dead link and fans arguing if it was legit or not.

http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/topic/50052-yoshiaki-fujiwara-vs-don-nakaya-nielsen/

4/29/13 4:07 PM
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knuckleballs - Woah, a behind the neck keylock/americana! That's so cool that i can watch a pre-UFC fight and still see submissions that i have never seen.

I think Royce Gracie's biggest accomplishment was submitting this version of shamrock in one minute AND/OR making it to a decision with the even better version of shamrock.

The whole "Royce had an easy ride to the finals in UFC 1" argument is total BS; anyone on earth who had to go through shamrock at this point did not have it easy.

Yeah there are a lot of things you could say about Royce but Shamrock was the most dangerous fighter he could've faced in  UFC 1 and he schooled him.

4/29/13 5:06 PM
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RearNakedToke - 
William Colosimo - The show right before this (IIRC) featured Fujiwara vs Nielson. Nielson made Fujiwara look bad and stopped him in a minute or two IIRC. Probably legit.

Then they fed him to Ken.

Ken briefly mentioned this fight in his 2nd book.

I can;t find any footage of the Nielsen vs Fujiwara match to see if it is a legit shoot. All I could find was this thread from a Pro Wrestling forum that had a now dead link and fans arguing if it was legit or not.

http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/topic/50052-yoshiaki-fujiwara-vs-don-nakaya-nielsen/


From the looks of some of those posts, some of those guys were watching a different fight than I saw. This one barely went 90 seconds, someone over there is talking about round 3.

I have the fight (and the event) on vhs. PWF-Gumi shows used to be easy enough to find on the internet, now those same bootleg dealers still list them but say they're out of stock (a few months ago I tried buying the last batch of shows I'm missing)

I still need most of the 1991 shows- anyone that has them and wants to make $, pm me.
4/29/13 5:14 PM
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fightsfan - Ive heard him also called KEN WAYNE SHAMROCK, brother of FRANK JUAREZ SHAMROCK
He was billed as 'Kenneth Wayne Shamrock' in an early PRIDE hahaha Phone Post 3.0
4/29/13 10:40 PM
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Nice! VTFU FOR OP! Phone Post 3.0
4/30/13 12:41 AM
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4/30/13 1:57 AM
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LOL! Ken looked old already 20 years ago.
4/30/13 5:59 AM
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Very cool I have. Never seem this. Phone Post 3.0
4/30/13 6:57 AM
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Goood one Ice!

Thanks again eh.
4/30/13 7:19 AM
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VTFU - love this kind of footage
4/30/13 8:05 AM
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4/30/13 8:36 AM
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ttt for pro ice! Epic

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4/30/13 8:51 AM
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4/30/13 9:41 AM
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Cool, thanks. I'll check this out later. Phone Post
5/1/13 2:27 AM
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You're welcome guys 

 

Thanks Bill

5/1/13 7:49 AM
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RearNakedToke - And does anyone know if Yoshiaki Fukiwara's "Submission Master" DVDs are anywhere for sale or torrent? From short clips I have watched it seems like a easy to understand instructional considering its in Japanese.

What about Submission Spirits? Phone Post 3.0

Save your $, no magical secrets in it. Half of it is hindu pushups and squats
5/1/13 9:38 PM
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Pro Ice - 

You're welcome guys 

 

Thanks Bill


Anytime
6/29/13 2:37 PM
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 TTT for the Legend  Ken Wayne Shamrock!


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