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I have the info listed below. If that doesnt work let me know and I will give you the contact info of the organizations that are over them and if they don't act they will shut their servers down.

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damn bro, your an internet ninja!


My company runs several top level domains. I understand how the process works and how to fuck a company. They really do destroy spammers if they dont fix their shit just most folks dont' know how to contact.
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So as you guys know..

Alan Belcher is fighting Micheal Bisping this Saturday

Well he's ALSO putting out a DVD series tomorrow..

In order to promote it he's giving away some free videos

I have NEVER seen EITHER of these defense sequences before ..

And I've seen EVERYTHING! These 2 videos are F*CKIN SICK!!

Watch here >>> http://bit.ly/106lKXl

And I know that sounds like hype but I've really never seen these counters before...

Which is rare because I've been around some of the best grapplers in the world

For going on 10 years ..

Watch them .. he goes into some crazy leg lock stuff he was drilling for Palhares

 

 


lol.. Bro answer me honestly. Did you just happen upon these or was this scripted? I know you are a a huge Lloyd Irvin disciple and this is very Lloyd Irvin like behavior.

Not scripted . I'm on Alan's list and joined as an affiliate because the product is good.

I've passed on other launches in the past because I didn't believe in the product..

When you see what Alan's teaching you'll see why this is different..

And then of course.. make your OWN decision

I obviously recommend it because I've never seen a lot of the stuff he teaches in it and I've been around the game going on 10 years ...

Maybe you've seen all these counters and stuff before but I def haven't .. either way its worth taking a look..
4/25/13 8:04 PM
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Didn't OP have that hilarious $125,000 business consulting "deal"?
4/25/13 8:10 PM
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I have the info listed below. If that doesnt work let me know and I will give you the contact info of the organizations that are over them and if they don't act they will shut their servers down.

NetRange: 64.207.128.0 - 64.207.191.255

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Address: 8520 National Blvd.

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Voted up and a couple more vote ups for a couple others posting on the first page.

I have decided to make an online game of spotting those advocating Lloyd Irvin affiliate or network marketing tactics mastermind millionaire secret bonus free dvd cd syndicate

...like Where is Waldo?

I think Alan's fight with Palhares was awesome but I am absolutely concerned about network marketing or my information being sold to a boiler room, because there are bona fide reasons to be worried even if the person involved with the original sale item is an awesome guy.

so for all the benefit$ of being "affiliated" there are detriments as well.

Fighting is a tough way to make an "easy" buck

Alan isn't going to be able to fight forever and has been putting his body on the line in fights for who knows how long as he's been training over 15 years now

A lot of us aren't like "trying to scam" you.. we just want to make good products that help people avoid the mistakes we made .. share our knowledge and help our fellow competitors out so they can make a living off their passion..

Alan's a good dude and what he teaches is good. I'm trying to help him put food on his table.

If you guys think he's going to sell your info to a boiler room then its probably best not to sign up

Honestly I hope he does a million bucks with his DVDs and I hope other fighters do the same as well..

I really think MMA athletes train as hard if not harder than other professional athletes.. but don't get nearly the fame or recognition ...

So any way they/we can help grow our sport an share things weve learned with the MMA community and make a living doing so I support

Then again I've had my nose and orbital broken in a fight so I know how hard the ups and downs can be

If you don't like 1 or 2 guys who happen to sell products online .. that's fine but understand a lot of us have good intentions are trying to help our friends, team mates and fellow competitors out while grow this community of ours as a whole

Maybe in the future we will all be multi millioanires with shoe deals.. and won't need to "stoop so low" as to sell dvds online.. but until then I support my friend and want to see him and his family do well

It doesnt hurt that his product is awesome and can help a lot of people too ..
4/25/13 8:21 PM
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I have the info listed below. If that doesnt work let me know and I will give you the contact info of the organizations that are over them and if they don't act they will shut their servers down.

NetRange: 64.207.128.0 - 64.207.191.255

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OrgName: Media Temple, Inc.

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Address: 8520 National Blvd.

Address: Building B

City: Culver City

StateProv: CA

PostalCode: 90232

Country: US

RegDate: 2001-05-15

Updated: 2010-06-29

Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/MEDIAT-10



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Voted up and a couple more vote ups for a couple others posting on the first page.

I have decided to make an online game of spotting those advocating Lloyd Irvin affiliate or network marketing tactics mastermind millionaire secret bonus free dvd cd syndicate

...like Where is Waldo?

I think Alan's fight with Palhares was awesome but I am absolutely concerned about network marketing or my information being sold to a boiler room, because there are bona fide reasons to be worried even if the person involved with the original sale item is an awesome guy.

so for all the benefit$ of being "affiliated" there are detriments as well.

Fighting is a tough way to make an "easy" buck

Alan isn't going to be able to fight forever and has been putting his body on the line in fights for who knows how long as he's been training over 15 years now

A lot of us aren't like "trying to scam" you.. we just want to make good products that help people avoid the mistakes we made .. share our knowledge and help our fellow competitors out so they can make a living off their passion..

Alan's a good dude and what he teaches is good. I'm trying to help him put food on his table.

If you guys think he's going to sell your info to a boiler room then its probably best not to sign up

Honestly I hope he does a million bucks with his DVDs and I hope other fighters do the same as well..

I really think MMA athletes train as hard if not harder than other professional athletes.. but don't get nearly the fame or recognition ...

So any way they/we can help grow our sport an share things weve learned with the MMA community and make a living doing so I support

Then again I've had my nose and orbital broken in a fight so I know how hard the ups and downs can be

If you don't like 1 or 2 guys who happen to sell products online .. that's fine but understand a lot of us have good intentions are trying to help our friends, team mates and fellow competitors out while grow this community of ours as a whole

Maybe in the future we will all be multi millioanires with shoe deals.. and won't need to "stoop so low" as to sell dvds online.. but until then I support my friend and want to see him and his family do well

It doesnt hurt that his product is awesome and can help a lot of people too ..

Well after reading this I sure as shit hope you are just a little slow, because if you think you are getting hate because you are selling DVDs online you truly are a fucking moran.

I will you large letters and small words IT IS NOT THE WHAT, IT IS THE HOW
4/25/13 8:33 PM
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I have the info listed below. If that doesnt work let me know and I will give you the contact info of the organizations that are over them and if they don't act they will shut their servers down.

NetRange: 64.207.128.0 - 64.207.191.255

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OriginAS:

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Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-64-207-128-0-1



OrgName: Media Temple, Inc.

OrgId: MEDIAT-10

Address: 8520 National Blvd.

Address: Building B

City: Culver City

StateProv: CA

PostalCode: 90232

Country: US

RegDate: 2001-05-15

Updated: 2010-06-29

Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/MEDIAT-10



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Voted up and a couple more vote ups for a couple others posting on the first page.

I have decided to make an online game of spotting those advocating Lloyd Irvin affiliate or network marketing tactics mastermind millionaire secret bonus free dvd cd syndicate

...like Where is Waldo?

I think Alan's fight with Palhares was awesome but I am absolutely concerned about network marketing or my information being sold to a boiler room, because there are bona fide reasons to be worried even if the person involved with the original sale item is an awesome guy.

so for all the benefit$ of being "affiliated" there are detriments as well.

Fighting is a tough way to make an "easy" buck

Alan isn't going to be able to fight forever and has been putting his body on the line in fights for who knows how long as he's been training over 15 years now

A lot of us aren't like "trying to scam" you.. we just want to make good products that help people avoid the mistakes we made .. share our knowledge and help our fellow competitors out so they can make a living off their passion..

Alan's a good dude and what he teaches is good. I'm trying to help him put food on his table.

If you guys think he's going to sell your info to a boiler room then its probably best not to sign up

Honestly I hope he does a million bucks with his DVDs and I hope other fighters do the same as well..

I really think MMA athletes train as hard if not harder than other professional athletes.. but don't get nearly the fame or recognition ...

So any way they/we can help grow our sport an share things weve learned with the MMA community and make a living doing so I support

Then again I've had my nose and orbital broken in a fight so I know how hard the ups and downs can be

If you don't like 1 or 2 guys who happen to sell products online .. that's fine but understand a lot of us have good intentions are trying to help our friends, team mates and fellow competitors out while grow this community of ours as a whole

Maybe in the future we will all be multi millioanires with shoe deals.. and won't need to "stoop so low" as to sell dvds online.. but until then I support my friend and want to see him and his family do well

It doesnt hurt that his product is awesome and can help a lot of people too ..

Well after reading this I sure as shit hope you are just a little slow, because if you think you are getting hate because you are selling DVDs online you truly are a fucking moran.

I will you large letters and small words IT IS NOT THE WHAT, IT IS THE HOW

Maybe I AM slow.. I've been punched in the head a lot :P

To me it seems that posting about some REALLY GOOD *FREE* Videos and new DVDs from a UFC fighter who is fighting THIS WEEKEND on PPV on an MMA forum would make sense..

A lot of dudes come on here looking for news.. wouldn't a UFC fighter on this weeks card releasing his first DVD series be important to SOMEbody on this site?

Like I dunno up and coming MMA fighters or Ammy guys .. or grappling competitors..

It may not be your thing which is cool but if I help my friend sell a couple extra DVDs ... create more opportunity in MMA .. and maybe help and up and coming kid not get his leg ripped off by whoever the next Palhares is then I think posting here is a good thing..

Agree to disagree
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I like Belcher but i had to unsubscribe today; within the span of a week he had emailed me 17 times about his "truck" series and his Submission Immunity.
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So as you guys know..

Alan Belcher is fighting Micheal Bisping this Saturday

Well he's ALSO putting out a DVD series tomorrow..

In order to promote it he's giving away some free videos

I have NEVER seen EITHER of these defense sequences before ..

And I've seen EVERYTHING! These 2 videos are F*CKIN SICK!!

Watch here >>> http://bit.ly/106lKXl

And I know that sounds like hype but I've really never seen these counters before...

Which is rare because I've been around some of the best grapplers in the world

For going on 10 years ..

Watch them .. he goes into some crazy leg lock stuff he was drilling for Palhares

 

 


lol.. Bro answer me honestly. Did you just happen upon these or was this scripted? I know you are a a huge Lloyd Irvin disciple and this is very Lloyd Irvin like behavior.

Not scripted . I'm on Alan's list and joined as an affiliate because the product is good.

I've passed on other launches in the past because I didn't believe in the product..

When you see what Alan's teaching you'll see why this is different..

And then of course.. make your OWN decision

I obviously recommend it because I've never seen a lot of the stuff he teaches in it and I've been around the game going on 10 years ...

Maybe you've seen all these counters and stuff before but I def haven't .. either way its worth taking a look..
Wow... My bad bro. And to think I thought you were a fake, disingenuous, lying, manipulative scumbag who supports rapist who he believes will make him money. You are really a cool guy. God bless! Phone Post
4/25/13 9:40 PM
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I have the info listed below. If that doesnt work let me know and I will give you the contact info of the organizations that are over them and if they don't act they will shut their servers down.

NetRange: 64.207.128.0 - 64.207.191.255

CIDR: 64.207.128.0/18

OriginAS:

NetName: MEDIATEMPLE-100

NetHandle: NET-64-207-128-0-1

Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0

NetType: Direct Allocation

RegDate: 2002-09-16

Updated: 2012-03-20

Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-64-207-128-0-1



OrgName: Media Temple, Inc.

OrgId: MEDIAT-10

Address: 8520 National Blvd.

Address: Building B

City: Culver City

StateProv: CA

PostalCode: 90232

Country: US

RegDate: 2001-05-15

Updated: 2010-06-29

Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/MEDIAT-10



OrgTechHandle: NA230-ARIN

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Voted up and a couple more vote ups for a couple others posting on the first page.

I have decided to make an online game of spotting those advocating Lloyd Irvin affiliate or network marketing tactics mastermind millionaire secret bonus free dvd cd syndicate

...like Where is Waldo?

I think Alan's fight with Palhares was awesome but I am absolutely concerned about network marketing or my information being sold to a boiler room, because there are bona fide reasons to be worried even if the person involved with the original sale item is an awesome guy.

so for all the benefit$ of being "affiliated" there are detriments as well.

Fighting is a tough way to make an "easy" buck

Alan isn't going to be able to fight forever and has been putting his body on the line in fights for who knows how long as he's been training over 15 years now

A lot of us aren't like "trying to scam" you.. we just want to make good products that help people avoid the mistakes we made .. share our knowledge and help our fellow competitors out so they can make a living off their passion..

Alan's a good dude and what he teaches is good. I'm trying to help him put food on his table.

If you guys think he's going to sell your info to a boiler room then its probably best not to sign up

Honestly I hope he does a million bucks with his DVDs and I hope other fighters do the same as well..

I really think MMA athletes train as hard if not harder than other professional athletes.. but don't get nearly the fame or recognition ...

So any way they/we can help grow our sport an share things weve learned with the MMA community and make a living doing so I support

Then again I've had my nose and orbital broken in a fight so I know how hard the ups and downs can be

If you don't like 1 or 2 guys who happen to sell products online .. that's fine but understand a lot of us have good intentions are trying to help our friends, team mates and fellow competitors out while grow this community of ours as a whole

Maybe in the future we will all be multi millioanires with shoe deals.. and won't need to "stoop so low" as to sell dvds online.. but until then I support my friend and want to see him and his family do well

It doesnt hurt that his product is awesome and can help a lot of people too ..

Well after reading this I sure as shit hope you are just a little slow, because if you think you are getting hate because you are selling DVDs online you truly are a fucking moran.

I will you large letters and small words IT IS NOT THE WHAT, IT IS THE HOW

Maybe I AM slow.. I've been punched in the head a lot :P

To me it seems that posting about some REALLY GOOD *FREE* Videos and new DVDs from a UFC fighter who is fighting THIS WEEKEND on PPV on an MMA forum would make sense..

A lot of dudes come on here looking for news.. wouldn't a UFC fighter on this weeks card releasing his first DVD series be important to SOMEbody on this site?

Like I dunno up and coming MMA fighters or Ammy guys .. or grappling competitors..

It may not be your thing which is cool but if I help my friend sell a couple extra DVDs ... create more opportunity in MMA .. and maybe help and up and coming kid not get his leg ripped off by whoever the next Palhares is then I think posting here is a good thing..

Agree to disagree
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4/25/13 9:41 PM
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Make that 18 emails.
WOW THIS IS CRAZY.
4/25/13 10:00 PM
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I have the info listed below. If that doesnt work let me know and I will give you the contact info of the organizations that are over them and if they don't act they will shut their servers down.

NetRange: 64.207.128.0 - 64.207.191.255

CIDR: 64.207.128.0/18

OriginAS:

NetName: MEDIATEMPLE-100

NetHandle: NET-64-207-128-0-1

Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0

NetType: Direct Allocation

RegDate: 2002-09-16

Updated: 2012-03-20

Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-64-207-128-0-1



OrgName: Media Temple, Inc.

OrgId: MEDIAT-10

Address: 8520 National Blvd.

Address: Building B

City: Culver City

StateProv: CA

PostalCode: 90232

Country: US

RegDate: 2001-05-15

Updated: 2010-06-29

Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/MEDIAT-10



OrgTechHandle: NA230-ARIN

OrgTechName: NOC Hosting Operations

OrgTechPhone: +1-877-578-4000

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damn bro, your an internet ninja!


whois, how does it work?
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these testimonials for lloyd like crap are all the same.

who me? not me?

I'm just a regular dude talking about something I really like.

I don't have any connection.

Just think it's a great product.

(Insert name) is a great guy. (insert name) was really struggling trying to run a gym (fight) and do what he loves.

Now he can.
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vegard - these testimonials for lloyd like crap are all the same.

who me? not me?

I'm just a regular dude talking about something I really like.

I don't have any connection.

Just think it's a great product.

(Insert name) is a great guy. (insert name) was really struggling trying to run a gym (fight) and do what he loves.

Now he can.
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vegard - these testimonials for lloyd like crap are all the same.

who me? not me?

I'm just a regular dude talking about something I really like.

I don't have any connection.

Just think it's a great product.

(Insert name) is a great guy. (insert name) was really struggling trying to run a gym (fight) and do what he loves.

Now he can.

I DO really like it..

And I DO have a connection

They're not mutually exclusive of each other

Again that's what the FREE videos are for

So you can see if YOU really like it...
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vegard - these testimonials for lloyd like crap are all the same.

who me? not me?

I'm just a regular dude talking about something I really like.

I don't have any connection.

Just think it's a great product.

(Insert name) is a great guy. (insert name) was really struggling trying to run a gym (fight) and do what he loves.

Now he can.

I DO really like it..

And I DO have a connection

They're not mutually exclusive of each other

Again that's what the FREE videos are for

So you can see if YOU really like it...

How you use all caps for only certain words makes you look totally legit! Do you know what would seal the deal? If someone had a story how they were homeless till these DVD's saved their life and made them balla rich! Do you know anyone with a story like that?
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Hey guys, I have a friend who went from Limpster to Baller. He went from shamefully playing with his limpness while his friends "got shit done" to hosing parties for Real Players. How did he do this? Impotence Immunity (TM).

PM me your email for more details. I won't even spam you--promise.
4/26/13 12:43 AM
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Alumynabjj - 
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vegard - these testimonials for lloyd like crap are all the same.

who me? not me?

I'm just a regular dude talking about something I really like.

I don't have any connection.

Just think it's a great product.

(Insert name) is a great guy. (insert name) was really struggling trying to run a gym (fight) and do what he loves.

Now he can.

I DO really like it..

And I DO have a connection

They're not mutually exclusive of each other

Again that's what the FREE videos are for

So you can see if YOU really like it...

How you use all caps for only certain words makes you look totally legit! Do you know what would seal the deal? If someone had a story how they were homeless till these DVD's saved their life and made them balla rich! Do you know anyone with a story like that?

I love you bro.
4/26/13 4:59 AM
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It's ridiculous how many emails I'm getting about this. The whole syndicate has been emailing me even thou I've tried to unsubscribe already. I know Alan is a hard working guy trying to make a name and make money he deserves, I just hate the fact that it's Lloyd Irvin affiliated, or at least seems to be.
4/26/13 9:28 AM
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David,

I completely agree that fighting is a tough way to earn a living. Further, I do not have a problem with network marketing when it is done right, so to speak.

I can't afford a lot on training beyond the monthly bjj dues for my son and I, but I can help spread the word of those who I think deserve it. For example, I cannot say enough good things about the free content that Stephan Kesting and the Gracie Academy provide and I have no connection to them. Thus, while I have spent less than $100 with both combined, I try to help by recommending their products when questions come up.

On the flip side, if there is a potential that someone is affiliated with very bad network marketing, I will be more vocal about it.

I don't know if you are Alan continue to be part of Lloyd Irvin's system, affiliation, program (whatever) but I sure hope not... not for me, but for you guys. Even if you are part of it, I appreciate you responding because it's a much better, respectful approach than saying nothing and hoping it will go away.
4/26/13 9:48 AM
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the guy when toeto toe with paulharris  and won !!

4/26/13 10:35 AM
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Big thanks to Alan Belcher, Marcos Avellan - Freestyle Fighting Academy, and Lloyd Irvin Jr. for spreading the... http://fb.me/1A1i6ko3L
4/26/13 10:36 AM
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"There are so many more resources available to the public now that in the past were guarded secrets. With the growth of the internet and MMA community, it is even possible to be trained online for free by world class instructors such as UFC sensation Alan Belcher, America's Jiu-Jitsu Coach Lloyd Irvin, and my brother Marcos and I." post by D. Avellan on UG blog
4/26/13 10:38 AM
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Really enjoyed Belcher's vids until I got bombed w Lloydesque marketing. Shame he's wired into that goofy network, seemed like a good guy. Phone Post 3.0
4/26/13 10:39 AM
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"Belcher, a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt, cautiously weighed in on the controversy surrounding renowned BJJ instructor Lloyd Irvin. Irvin entered the mainstream news when two of his male students were videotaped raping a female teammate. What soon followed were accusations of Irvin sexually assaulting his own students.

“I don’t really know how to answer that in the best way,” Belcher said. “I’m just going to be honest and say it’s not fair to accuse people but when that many things are pointing in your direction and pointing at you then something ain’t right. I can’t say anything from experience and I can’t even really go there. A lot of the things, if they happen to be true, are just disgusting and I know I would kill someone if they ever did that to one of my kids or my daughter. The average UFC fan probably doesn’t know much about it. I’m just embarrassed to even hear about it. Stuff like that goes on and karma is going to come around and bite him in the butt.”"

I guess he would go so far as to kick his ass but not so far as to discontinue using his marketing methods.

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