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Fun pointless fact:  Donnie Yen said he'd never do another IP Man movie because everyone was going to try to cash in on it and there were going to be too many of them.

 

Another fun little pointless fact:  Ip Man was an opium addict. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yip_Man

 

Yip Man was said to have regularly used opium.[9] One of his former students, Duncan Leung, claimed that Yip used tuition money to support his opium addiction.[10]

 
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Fun pointless fact:  Donnie Yen said he'd never do another IP Man movie because everyone was going to try to cash in on it and there were going to be too many of them.

 

Another fun little pointless fact:  Ip Man was an opium addict. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yip_Man

 

Yip Man was said to have regularly used opium.[9] One of his former students, Duncan Leung, claimed that Yip used tuition money to support his opium addiction.[10]

 

Donnie Yen just signed to film Ip Man 3D :P
4/30/13 2:02 PM
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Then scratch fact number one.

4/30/13 2:03 PM
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Did he say what made him reconsider?  He said pretty strongly before he was never doing another one.

4/30/13 2:05 PM
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No but I reckon it must be the dolla dolla bills y'all
4/30/13 2:12 PM
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Yeah, probably so much he'd be crazy not to.

 

Meh

4/30/13 2:27 PM
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great thread
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Fun pointless fact:  Donnie Yen said he'd never do another IP Man movie because everyone was going to try to cash in on it and there were going to be too many of them.

 

Another fun little pointless fact:  Ip Man was an opium addict. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yip_Man

 

Yip Man was said to have regularly used opium.[9] One of his former students, Duncan Leung, claimed that Yip used tuition money to support his opium addiction.[10]

 

Donnie Yen just signed to film Ip Man 3D :P

will it be an incredibly racist propaganda piece like the last one?

The villain was at bob Sapp levels of selling his own people out.

Can't trust those white foreign devils to control themselves near Asian women.

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Only Bruce got the real WC :)
4/30/13 10:45 PM
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this is the way it should have gone



4/30/13 11:05 PM
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How did hubris sneak the camera into a class?

4/30/13 11:11 PM
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I figure out what Wing Chun is from looking up vids on Youtube. Wing Chun is boxing without any punching mechanics, head movement, and shielding of the face. They use arm punches, no hooks, no twisting of the hip. No bobbing and weaving, so their head is a constant target. Their hands are 2 feet in front of their face, opened. There are no kicks.
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Otsuka - FWIW, I read an article once where the author talked about Ip Man and how his Wing Chun was much different and complete than what is taught to the public now. Basically, Ip Man had something like 5 closed-door students, each of whom he taught different aspects of his art to. And each one of them believed what they were taught was the real deal and that Ip Man taught the others fake shit. So... when Ip Man died, all these different clans of Wing Chun started feuding against each other, saying how they are the real WC as Ip Man taught them. But in reality, they all only knew one part of the whole, and instead of fighting amongst themselves, if they would have gotten together and compared notes, they would have put 2 and 2 together and figured the whole thing out. As it is now, the Wing Chun that exists in HK and the west is an "empty shell". I have read about some other WC schools in China that are not of Ip Man's lineage, and they seem to have a larger, wider ciriculum. Maybe some TCMA historian can enlighten us?

that just sounds like total BS, the typical pseudo-legend shit that WC guys churn out

and if that literally did happen then Ip Man was a tard; who wants to destroy their art? What kind of sociopath would spend time teaching fake shit day after day?
Nah i think they all learned the same art, but all changed things just to lay claim to "real" teaching. Greed, much like power and religion.

Leung ting spread out his version to Europe and the u.s. Some of his top students were german and pretty fucking big, even emin boztepe was huge and you couldn't tell by looking at his pictures. Funny thing is that leung preached aggressiveness and did not fuck around even as a little old stocky dude. Frat story coming up.... Phone Post
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Otsuka - FWIW, I read an article once where the author talked about Ip Man and how his Wing Chun was much different and complete than what is taught to the public now. Basically, Ip Man had something like 5 closed-door students, each of whom he taught different aspects of his art to. And each one of them believed what they were taught was the real deal and that Ip Man taught the others fake shit. So... when Ip Man died, all these different clans of Wing Chun started feuding against each other, saying how they are the real WC as Ip Man taught them. But in reality, they all only knew one part of the whole, and instead of fighting amongst themselves, if they would have gotten together and compared notes, they would have put 2 and 2 together and figured the whole thing out. As it is now, the Wing Chun that exists in HK and the west is an "empty shell". I have read about some other WC schools in China that are not of Ip Man's lineage, and they seem to have a larger, wider ciriculum. Maybe some TCMA historian can enlighten us?

soooooo...Ip man is basically the textbook example of a shady TMA fraud.
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Dbulletproof - I see you are a wing chun guy Ghengis, if you were the guy in the video (fighting someone with considerable reach) what would be your tactics?

Also, he got nailed a couple of times with hooks, is it all just straight blast in WC?
It would be wait for an opportunity to slip or counter. Grapple and trip. Kicks to the knees. Bring him down to a level where a straight blast could be effective. Phone Post 3.0
The wing Chun counter to a hook is either a straight block, slip or to duck. This relies on you being more aware and quicker thn your opponent. The guy in the video had shit stance improper foot placement. Zero patience, Incorrect foot movement and was the aggressor. I would say he had maybe four lessons. And didn't pay attention in any. Phone Post 3.0

Yup, and there's no true Scotsman.

Perhaps you can point us to a video showing us Teh R33L Wing Chun (against an actual attacker)? That might be more convincing than "no no no, that's not real WC either"
5/1/13 12:05 AM
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I went to a leung ting seminar, prior to it we were briefed by our instructor not to ask stupid questions, bow, etc. During the seminar we would stand in fighting position in front one another and practiced closing the distance, throwing a straight lead as you went in. Students would step in casually, then punch. Ting got pissed and would walk behind the student, shove the piss out of him, screaming instructions. Funny shit because you'd just see bodies flying forward as people would get caught unexpected.

Towards the end of the seminar, we gathered around, sitting for a q&a with the grandmaster. A student brought up the question of bruce lees one inch punch and if it was real. Ting got pissed, as any mention of bruce brought up hate but elected to show us how keeping the body loose could generate power. He walks up to the door frame, places his hand about an in or two away and proceeds to blast a punch into it, hitting it pretty fucking hard....

We sat back down and an INSTRUCTOR asks, "wouldn't that punch throw you off balance in a wc stance?". Ting had a look on his face like he just sucked on a lemon and we all gasped as this was an example of a stupid question. "GET OVER HERE" ting seethed and motioned for the instructor to get in his wc stance. Instructor nervously does and puts his hands up in wc fashion.

"NO, put your HANDS DOWN." instructor does as ting walks up and puts his fist about 1-2 inches from instructors nose. "fuck, here comes that one inch punch" we thought and sure as shit, ting blasts this dude in the nose 3-4 times. Nose is bending left and right as blood starts trickling down.

"ARE YOU OFF BALANCE? " ting asks." no sir" is the response. "THEN SIT DOWN AND NO MORE STUPID QUESTION FROM YOU." dude quietly sits down as we shake our heads. Lol Phone Post
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tubuku01 -  I went to a leung ting seminar, prior to it we were briefed by our instructor not to ask stupid questions, bow, etc. During the seminar we would stand in fighting position in front one another and practiced closing the distance, throwing a straight lead as you went in. Students would step in casually, then punch. Ting got pissed and would walk behind the student, shove the piss out of him, screaming instructions. Funny shit because you'd just see bodies flying forward as people would get caught unexpected.

Towards the end of the seminar, we gathered around, sitting for a q&a with the grandmaster. A student brought up the question of bruce lees one inch punch and if it was real. Ting got pissed, as any mention of bruce brought up hate but elected to show us how keeping the body loose could generate power. He walks up to the door frame, places his hand about an in or two away and proceeds to blast a punch into it, hitting it pretty fucking hard....

We sat back down and an INSTRUCTOR asks, "wouldn't that punch throw you off balance in a wc stance?". Ting had a look on his face like he just sucked on a lemon and we all gasped as this was an example of a stupid question. "GET OVER HERE" ting seethed and motioned for the instructor to get in his wc stance. Instructor nervously does and puts his hands up in wc fashion.

"NO, put your HANDS DOWN." instructor does as ting walks up and puts his fist about 1-2 inches from instructors nose. "fuck, here comes that one inch punch" we thought and sure as shit, ting blasts this dude in the nose 3-4 times. Nose is bending left and right as blood starts trickling down.

"ARE YOU OFF BALANCE? " ting asks." no sir" is the response. "THEN SIT DOWN AND NO MORE STUPID QUESTION FROM YOU." dude quietly sits down as we shake our heads. Lol Phone Post

^^ Another textbook example of an obvious fraud.

"put you hands down and let me punch you in the face, dont fight back!"

"See?! It works!"

You'll never see pussys like this try that shit against someone they know will fight back. Naw, it's always a compliant student they demo on.

PS The one inch punch 'works' because bruce had the guy stand with his legs parallel, and conveniently placed a chair behind him to trip over. Thus, when pushed even slightly, the man would have to talk a step back, and fall onto the chair.

It's a parlor trick, watch the video and talk to a stunt man. Oldest trick in the book.
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^I didn't know grumpy cat was a Wing Chun teacher.

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That was what made me think WC had absolutely no real life application.

 

The people teaching would show how they could own you after they told you where to put your hands so they could own you.

 

I was very respectful when I was there and didn't challenge it, but did ask a few of the other students if they thought in a real fight the opponent would put their hands where you told them so you could beat them up, but they just laughed it off.

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tubuku01 - I went to a leung ting seminar, prior to it we were briefed by our instructor not to ask stupid questions, bow, etc. During the seminar we would stand in fighting position in front one another and practiced closing the distance, throwing a straight lead as you went in. Students would step in casually, then punch. Ting got pissed and would walk behind the student, shove the piss out of him, screaming instructions. Funny shit because you'd just see bodies flying forward as people would get caught unexpected.

Towards the end of the seminar, we gathered around, sitting for a q&a with the grandmaster. A student brought up the question of bruce lees one inch punch and if it was real. Ting got pissed, as any mention of bruce brought up hate but elected to show us how keeping the body loose could generate power. He walks up to the door frame, places his hand about an in or two away and proceeds to blast a punch into it, hitting it pretty fucking hard....

We sat back down and an INSTRUCTOR asks, "wouldn't that punch throw you off balance in a wc stance?". Ting had a look on his face like he just sucked on a lemon and we all gasped as this was an example of a stupid question. "GET OVER HERE" ting seethed and motioned for the instructor to get in his wc stance. Instructor nervously does and puts his hands up in wc fashion.

"NO, put your HANDS DOWN." instructor does as ting walks up and puts his fist about 1-2 inches from instructors nose. "fuck, here comes that one inch punch" we thought and sure as shit, ting blasts this dude in the nose 3-4 times. Nose is bending left and right as blood starts trickling down.

"ARE YOU OFF BALANCE? " ting asks." no sir" is the response. "THEN SIT DOWN AND NO MORE STUPID QUESTION FROM YOU." dude quietly sits down as we shake our heads. Lol Phone Post
Lol at this, and at anyone who would still train in wing chun after attending such a seminar. Sorry, but Teung sounds like a dick and a bully. No budo there for sure. Phone Post 3.0
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Ghengiseanie -
Dbulletproof - I see you are a wing chun guy Ghengis, if you were the guy in the video (fighting someone with considerable reach) what would be your tactics?

Also, he got nailed a couple of times with hooks, is it all just straight blast in WC?
It would be wait for an opportunity to slip or counter. Grapple and trip. Kicks to the knees. Bring him down to a level where a straight blast could be effective. Phone Post 3.0
The wing Chun counter to a hook is either a straight block, slip or to duck. This relies on you being more aware and quicker thn your opponent. The guy in the video had shit stance improper foot placement. Zero patience, Incorrect foot movement and was the aggressor. I would say he had maybe four lessons. And didn't pay attention in any. Phone Post 3.0

Yup, and there's no true Scotsman.

Perhaps you can point us to a video showing us Teh R33L Wing Chun (against an actual attacker)? That might be more convincing than "no no no, that's not real WC either"

http://youtu.be/szdF1nIAfpk

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lol Phone Post 3.0
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Luckily it was just Wing Chun so nobody got hurt.

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tubuku01 - I went to a leung ting seminar, prior to it we were briefed by our instructor not to ask stupid questions, bow, etc. During the seminar we would stand in fighting position in front one another and practiced closing the distance, throwing a straight lead as you went in. Students would step in casually, then punch. Ting got pissed and would walk behind the student, shove the piss out of him, screaming instructions. Funny shit because you'd just see bodies flying forward as people would get caught unexpected.

Towards the end of the seminar, we gathered around, sitting for a q&a with the grandmaster. A student brought up the question of bruce lees one inch punch and if it was real. Ting got pissed, as any mention of bruce brought up hate but elected to show us how keeping the body loose could generate power. He walks up to the door frame, places his hand about an in or two away and proceeds to blast a punch into it, hitting it pretty fucking hard....

We sat back down and an INSTRUCTOR asks, "wouldn't that punch throw you off balance in a wc stance?". Ting had a look on his face like he just sucked on a lemon and we all gasped as this was an example of a stupid question. "GET OVER HERE" ting seethed and motioned for the instructor to get in his wc stance. Instructor nervously does and puts his hands up in wc fashion.

"NO, put your HANDS DOWN." instructor does as ting walks up and puts his fist about 1-2 inches from instructors nose. "fuck, here comes that one inch punch" we thought and sure as shit, ting blasts this dude in the nose 3-4 times. Nose is bending left and right as blood starts trickling down.

"ARE YOU OFF BALANCE? " ting asks." no sir" is the response. "THEN SIT DOWN AND NO MORE STUPID QUESTION FROM YOU." dude quietly sits down as we shake our heads. Lol Phone Post
What a fucking asshole! Phone Post

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