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5/5/13 2:27 AM
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hubris - WC vs Muay Thai


As soon as they squared off, you just knew how that was going down.

 

Wow

5/5/13 2:48 AM
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Damn.......folded like a chair was an accurate as fuck description fam.
Whoah dere

Even if he had been trying to wrestle or kick box he was still getting bodied cuz of that size and athleticism difference.
It was a matter of time with almost any art.
When u are down in speed height reach and power all at the same time it doesn't matter what art you study. You are going to be in for a tough fight.

If the little guy called him out I have zero issue with the clownin and showboating. Phone Post 3.0
5/5/13 3:05 AM
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hubris - I just realized something

Wing Chun was originally made for women. I guess this is why Wing Chun guys look like bitches when they fight


Weeeeeee!

 

I've tried to read up on the WC being for women thing before, but the stories of how it came to be are awful hard to follow.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Wing_Chun

5/5/13 3:15 AM
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hubris - WC vs Muay Thai


As soon as they squared off, you just knew how that was going down.

 

Wow

Wow that was an ass kicking. Poor bastard probably trained his balls off in WC only to have that reality check.

I would avoid training WC...stick with boxing, thai boxing or hard karate styles (like kyokushin) for striking and BJJ, Judo or wrestling for grappling. Most anything else and you're wasting your time. Phone Post
5/5/13 4:41 AM
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5/5/13 5:45 PM
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6ULDV8 -

I'd say this is the first example of a WC dude looking like a legitimate badass.

 

VTFU

Agree, best example I've seen yet.

Sadly, it also shows how bad WC is. Even when done by such a high level practitioner... He failed to even put a dent on his overmatched karate opponent's face despite hitting him with everything but the kitchen sink.

Also, like Boztepe vs Cheung, it ended up becoming a ground fight with two guys who were absolutely clueless at what to do there. So much for anti grappling.

I still believe it is best to avoid WC. You only live once and time is limited, better to invest time and $ in something more worthwhile. Phone Post 3.0

What were the WC guy's credentials? Could you be more specific when you said he was high level? How can you tell?
5/6/13 12:14 AM
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Above WC guy seems bad ass, but again, those FOOM punches seem to be lacking power.

If the dude FOOM just put his ass into it he'd probably spark his opponent FOOM out.

As for being invented by a woman, sure that's partly why the guys seem to fight like that, but a lot of FOOM dudes over here have very slight builds, so maybe that's got something to FOOM do with it.

5/6/13 3:23 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdFdKjABETs

Wing Chun vs German Stoicism

Chinese dude dicktucks big time as soon as Werner Herzog stands up.
5/6/13 4:06 AM
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5/6/13 4:10 AM
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Dbulletproof - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdFdKjABETs

Wing Chun vs German Stoicism

Chinese dude dicktucks big time as soon as Werner Herzog stands up.

LOL, awesome.

5/6/13 4:11 AM
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Don't mess with German dudes when the next stop is Prince Edward.  Lesson learned.

5/6/13 4:17 AM
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VU for teh DV8

Outstanding contributions that make this thread awesomesauce.
5/6/13 5:02 AM
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Cool thread man.  Extra interesting because of where we are.

 

Cheers

5/6/13 5:17 AM
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6ULDV8 - 

Don't mess with German dudes when the next stop is Prince Edward.  Lesson learned.


Literally LOL'd...very nice
5/6/13 3:10 PM
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Not Wing Chun exactly, and maybe not scientific, but MTR Kung Fu if done right, no can defend!

5/6/13 4:52 PM
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Transportation in Hong Kong is awesome, by the way.

 

Edit: old video ceased to exist, and this is much better anyway.

5/6/13 7:05 PM
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^I feel bad for that mental guy. Having said that, he was doing Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do. He even did the BJJ butt scoot ala Rickson on Funaki. He's a true mixed martial artist and will be the most technical guy in the asylum.
5/6/13 9:21 PM
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5/6/13 10:45 PM
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Not Wing Chun exactly, and maybe not scientific, but MTR Kung Fu if done right, no can defend!


Nice kicks but no headmovement.

If I see him on the MTR, dojo storm time.
5/7/13 7:46 AM
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Yeah, I bet I could take him.

5/7/13 10:33 AM
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lot of hate here. we get it, it doesn't do well against MT or MMA. there are some useful things in the art though. Has some applicability such as in-guard Gnp / countering Gnp which i remember some pro fighters commenting on
5/7/13 10:47 AM
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Wing chi is shit Phone Post 3.0
5/7/13 11:46 AM
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That boxer is such a dick.  I would show up at his gym and use him as a ragdoll.  fuck him in the ass.  make him humble.

 

 

i'm a state wrestling champ.

Nice Iron Sheik reference Phone Post 3.0
5/7/13 11:57 AM
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Ghengiseanie - Yes we'll the wing Chun guy was breaking all the rules. The science of wing Chun works so much better defensively. The way he was running in trying to hit a bigger guy with more reach was laughable. Phone Post 3.0
Did you say science!

I laughed so hard I about pissed myself, that's crap is garbage. Phone Post
5/7/13 9:39 PM
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Naughty Gorilla - lot of hate here. we get it, it doesn't do well against MT or MMA. there are some useful things in the art though. Has some applicability such as in-guard Gnp / countering Gnp which i remember some pro fighters commenting on

With respect I disagree.

Sure, there are people saying that WC is garbage, however that was not the aim of the thread.

There may well be some useful techniques in the art, however it is interesting that you don't hear people saying BJJ, Muay Thai etc are garbage. This criticism is repeatedly aimed at WIng Chun, and with, in my opinion, good reason.

Look at the video a few pages ago with 2 WC 'masters' who engage in a dojo storm type fight. They end up rolling around on the ground like two drunks. 2 masters that do not trust their art is very telling, when compared to say Cristiano Marcello fighting Crazy Horse backstage at Pride:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdf5ia_crazy-horse-backstage-fight-with-cr_sport#.UYmq7EqImSo

Blue please

Marcello uses techniques that he has drilled countless times, in a live fight, against a wrestler/brawler and puts him out.
Can you see a WC practicioner doing teh same thing in this situation?
Granted, a straight up WC guy would probably never fight in Pride/UFC as its not style vs style anymore, but a guy with a WC base would get murdered.

I'll be honest and say that I've never trained WC before, but I live and tarin in HK. I have watched classes whilst preparing to spar in the same gym, and several posters on this thread have done WC - Otsuka and DV8 being examples. I'm sure they can back me up on this.
Being in Hong Kong, one of the major hubs of WC, gives us a very good insight into the art and IMO it is not effective.

"Has some applicability such as in-guard Gnp / countering Gnp which i remember some pro fighters commenting on"

Would you mind sharing the techniques a WC guy could use in this situation and the pro fighters that commented on it?


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