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5/1/13 1:19 AM
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Funaki Masakatsu #1
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Wanderlei's takedown defense was superb against Dan Henderson at PRIDE 12, where he displayed fast hips and great level changes to stop Dan's takedowns.

Wanderlei's takedown defense isn't poor; his aggressive style is going to leave him open to takedowns because he comes forward and aggressively commits to strikes. It makes him susceptible to his opponent changing levels, getting under his hips and completing a takedown. Phone Post 3.0
5/1/13 1:22 AM
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Jons Forsberg - Anderson after 25 mins of Chael's GNP

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And here's Chaels from that night:

 

 

 

AND he was caught roiding in this bout.


 


exactly.
5/1/13 1:24 AM
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Jons Forsberg - Wanderlei will beat his ass, Chael has nothing for him.

I highly doubt takedowns and ground and pound from the top position against someone who has limited takedown defence and has shown very little offence off his back throughout his entire career is to classified as "nothing".

What are you basing his supposed lack of abilities from his back off of? The fact that he wasn't able to do much against Ricardo Arona? Do you even realize who the hell Arona is and what he used to do to people? He's a two time ADCC champion and he won the open weight division due to his dominating top game and control. The best grapplers in the world could not even score a single point on Arona. No one has ever done anything once Arona got on top of them, outside of Shogun being able to make some transitions due to the fact that Arona hit his own head on the takedown. Arona even stifled Fedor.

Now then, that leaves the LnP win that Tito got over Wanderlei 13 years ago. Are you really going to base your argument around that example? Because it's a fucking poor one.

I'm thinking that you missed Wanderlei's fights with Yoshida where he showed extremely slick transitions while keeping Yoshida in danger the entire time, he even almost subbed him twice.

People like you... you comment on topics like this when you know nothing about the sport, its history or the fighters. You've obviously never even seen most of Wanderlei's fights, as that is the only way that you could even come to the conclusion that you did.

tl/dr Shut your mouth when you don't know what you are talking about.

I guess you're going to be very surprised when Chael beats Wanderlei. So I'll just give you heads up now....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chael beats Wanderlei.

5/1/13 1:39 AM
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Great fight and this is dangerous fight for Chael.

Wanderlei has insane power at 205, Chaels bullrushing could lead to one of those hooks and it will be a quick end for Chael P. Sonnen.
5/1/13 1:43 AM
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Jons Forsberg - Anderson after 25 mins of Chael's GNP

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Answer my question. Do you think Chael was just lying on Anderson doing nothing?
5/1/13 1:49 AM
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People are delusional. Their love of Wand of the past blinds their vision of what he can do today compared to five years ago. Chael wins this via 3rd round arm triangle, dude is just a terrible matchup for Wand, simple as that.
5/1/13 1:50 AM
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Jons Forsberg - Wanderlei will beat his ass, Chael has nothing for him.

I highly doubt takedowns and ground and pound from the top position against someone who has limited takedown defence and has shown very little offence off his back throughout his entire career is to classified as "nothing".

What are you basing his supposed lack of abilities from his back off of? The fact that he wasn't able to do much against Ricardo Arona? Do you even realize who the hell Arona is and what he used to do to people? He's a two time ADCC champion and he won the open weight division due to his dominating top game and control. The best grapplers in the world could not even score a single point on Arona. No one has ever done anything once Arona got on top of them, outside of Shogun being able to make some transitions due to the fact that Arona hit his own head on the takedown. Arona even stifled Fedor.

Now then, that leaves the LnP win that Tito got over Wanderlei 13 years ago. Are you really going to base your argument around that example? Because it's a fucking poor one.

I'm thinking that you missed Wanderlei's fights with Yoshida where he showed extremely slick transitions while keeping Yoshida in danger the entire time, he even almost subbed him twice.

People like you... you comment on topics like this when you know nothing about the sport, its history or the fighters. You've obviously never even seen most of Wanderlei's fights, as that is the only way that you could even come to the conclusion that you did.

tl/dr Shut your mouth when you don't know what you are talking about.

I guess you're going to be very surprised when Chael beats Wanderlei. So I'll just give you heads up now....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chael beats Wanderlei.


Hey, guess what you idiot?

Your response did not pertain to anything that I posted. Feel free to point out where I said Wanderlei was going to win.

Like I said, a lot of you people should really shut your mouths. Just because you are posting on an mma forum or have been doing so for a period of time does not mean that you actually know what you are posting about.

BTW if it is a 5 rounder Chael will be in trouble. He's going to get KO'd or subbed. Wanderlei's jiu jitsu is better than Anderson's and I highly doubt that Chael has all of a sudden become Mr. Abu Dhabi.

Are you trolling here or something? Anderson has submitted the likes of Lutter and Henderson, not to mention Chael. Who has Wand submitted? The idea that Wand will be more of a threat to a powerful wrestler like Chael than Anderson is silly. His only chance would be a sprawl and brawl KO.
5/1/13 1:51 AM
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Why are intelligent people here frothing at the idea of a build to the fight?

You do know that the fight would NOT be a heated affair.

You also know after the fight that the two would hug, Wand would say he had no hard feelings and loved Chael and that Chael would then go on about how it was an honor and Wand is a warrior and legend.

It would all be phony WWE bullshit selling this notion of "no respect/lose teeth" and end with a 3 (or 5 if main event) round bout featuring a lot of grappling and a unanimous decision.

If you just want to see them fight; I have no issue.

I just cannot get how anyone wants the phony rivalry only to have them hold hands and bow to the audience like it's SNL and the show is over. Phone Post
5/1/13 1:53 AM
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ZeRoTZ Mangina - After the epicness of Wand vs. Stann, why waste one of Silva's final fights on someone who will look to take him down every opportunity he gets? I don't like this fight at all. Phone Post 3.0
I agree Phone Post
5/1/13 1:57 AM
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Sonnen is definitely capable of beating of Wanderlei, but he's going to have to get rid of that turtle defense he's been using to do so. If not, Silva takes it by semi-controversial early stoppage.
5/1/13 2:01 AM
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ZeRoTZ Mangina - After the epicness of Wand vs. Stann, why waste one of Silva's final fights on someone who will look to take him down every opportunity he gets? I don't like this fight at all. Phone Post 3.0
Absolutely, positively this. Phone Post
5/1/13 2:13 AM
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Decidedly Underwhelmed - Travis Lutter had his way with Anderson until he gassed. That is an indisputable fact. Dan Henderson got hurt standing, shot for a desperation takedown and then took more damage before giving up the sub.

Once again, another poster that doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm starting to see why people avoid the UG portion of this site.

Potatoes gonna potate.

...and this proves Wand has better BJJ how?


Hey next time dedicate a paragraph to making your point instead of one to irrelevancy and two to ad hominems, I promise you you will look like less of an ass.
5/1/13 2:14 AM
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Chaels eeks a decision and goes to challenge Cain for the HW belt

5/1/13 2:18 AM
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I wonder if this would be at LHW or MW.

MW, Sonnen dominates. LHW, too close to call imo.

I don't really want this fight for Wandy either and vtfu JeffersonDArcyChoke for your post. That's the truth brother.

5/1/13 2:21 AM
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Chaels eeks a decision and goes to challenge Cain for the HW belt


and Chael nuthuggers will try and justify it by saying "He's a HUGE lhw, walks around at 700lbs!"

5/1/13 2:24 AM
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JeffersonDArcyChoke -  Why are intelligent people here frothing at the idea of a build to the fight?

You do know that the fight would NOT be a heated affair.

You also know after the fight that the two would hug, Wand would say he had no hard feelings and loved Chael and that Chael would then go on about how it was an honor and Wand is a warrior and legend.

It would all be phony WWE bullshit selling this notion of "no respect/lose teeth" and end with a 3 (or 5 if main event) round bout featuring a lot of grappling and a unanimous decision.

If you just want to see them fight; I have no issue.

I just cannot get how anyone wants the phony rivalry only to have them hold hands and bow to the audience like it's SNL and the show is over. Phone Post

Oh, I don't think Wand likes Sonnen at all. I think he has a real dislike for Chael and I don't think he's just talking shit like Chael does.

Chael however just says shit because he's a troll and likes to get people riled up and promote fights, and he doesn't really mean the ridiculous shit he says.

Like others have said, I have no interest in watching Chael constantly try to take down Wand, or any other fighter really, since that's his only chance at beating anyone. Not a fan of that kind of fighter. It's amazing how many fans he has just because of his mouth. Because it sure as fuck isn't because he's an exciting fighter.
5/1/13 2:27 AM
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I wonder if this would be at LHW or MW.

MW, Sonnen dominates. LHW, too close to call imo.

I don't really want this fight for Wandy either and vtfu JeffersonDArcyChoke for your post. That's the truth brother.


Chael said he's staying at 205, and Im pretty sure Wand has said the same.
5/1/13 2:35 AM
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Decidedly Underwhelmed - Travis Lutter had his way with Anderson until he gassed. That is an indisputable fact. Dan Henderson got hurt standing, shot for a desperation takedown and then took more damage before giving up the sub.

Once again, another poster that doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm starting to see why people avoid the UG portion of this site.

Potatoes gonna potate.

...and this proves Wand has better BJJ how?


Hey next time dedicate a paragraph to making your point instead of one to irrelevancy and two to ad hominems, I promise you you will look like less of an ass.

Answer me this, guy, how did your post prove that Anderson Silva has better jiu jitsu than Wanderlei?

It didn't. We are both stating opinions at this point as we have not seen them grapple, however my opinion was obviously formed using a much more expansive knowledge base than yours, so the odds are that I am right and you are wrong.

I could point out really simple shit like how it took Anderson almost a full five rounds to sub Chael while Chael has Kevin Randleman-esque submission defense in order to support my statement that Anderson has poorer jiu jitsu. I could point out a lot of other things as well. However, it is now 2:22 a.m. and my Modafinil wore off about an hour ago. Too-da-loo, noob.

You can't just keep tearing down Anderson, that's not actually how a proof like this works. At some point you're going to have to make an argument to demonstrate how Wand is better.

I trotted out Lutter and Henderson who, even given the fact that Anderson exhausted one and injured the other, are still much more significant accomplishments than Wand's sub of Bob Schrijber.

So what have you got?
5/1/13 3:09 AM
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Chael by GNP
5/1/13 3:17 AM
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5/1/13 3:35 AM
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Jons Forsberg - Anderson after 25 mins of Chael's GNP

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Answer my question. Do you think Chael was just lying on Anderson doing nothing?

I want you to address my post, noob.

Go fuck yourself.

How was that? You got the attention you wanted.
5/1/13 3:36 AM
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I'd like to see this happen Phone Post 3.0
5/1/13 4:00 AM
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great fight to end it on
5/1/13 4:02 AM
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Warrenpeace - I see chaels sheep are out in full force in here.
Baaaaaa....

Errrr...


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5/1/13 4:12 AM
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