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Kings21 - Its not just about differing opinions. I disagree with Rogan all the time but listen to most of his podcasts, sometimes skipping based on the guest. I also disagree with the hosts of other podcasts I listen to. Its about 1)calling someone out on their bullshit and then ONE PODCAST LATER flip flopping because that someone gave you a phone call. If you dont want to ruffle feathers then dont bring it up on your podcast. Trying not to say Irvins name is just silly. 2) Its also about supporting rape and rape culture. I laugh at rape jokes just as much as I'll laugh about killing someone or ripping off their nuts or whatever it is but when you get back to reality and realize that the only thing that kept Irvin from having a rape conviction was the fact that he couldnt get his dick hard is nothing to take lightly. Not to mention his students raping another student, his Sambo coach and others.

I have a hard time believing Joe doesnt know all of this, he frequents the site enough but to say its internet rumor bullshit is ignorant and irresponsible. I dont like to bring peoples family into this but I wonder if Joe would let his kids train with Irvin. I know I wouldnt. Doesnt matter how many years after he was acquitted. Just like I wouldnt have let my kids go sleep at Neverland Ranch after not one but two molestation trials.

I love listening to Rogan go on and on about bigfoot and aliens but I've been wondering why he's kept quiet on this matter for so long until now, only to bitch about money making scams and then take it all back the next day.

Joe I thought you were all about calling out the fuckery.

You are seriously stretching it with no. 2. Saying anything positive about Lloyd Irvin's marketing tactics means you support rape culture? Come on now.
5/2/13 12:22 AM
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I do not think Joe was talking about Lloyd in that other podcast , I was literally listening to that one only a few hours ago. He said that he met a bad ass black belt that was a killer... The guy ran away fled and they caught him when he started teaching jujitsu again. So whoever that is Phone Post
5/2/13 12:23 AM
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I have to say it's funny Joe banned a "musician" (I'm sure a few of you know who it is) for less than what Lloyd's been doing.
5/2/13 12:25 AM
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Jumbo Reverse Shrimp - I have to say it's funny Joe banned a "musician" (I'm sure a few of you know who it is) for less than what Lloyd's been doing.
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5/2/13 12:25 AM
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His last podcast he spent 25 minute or so making fun of it an all kind of shit ... Now he back pedals ?!?!?!? Phone Post 3.0
5/2/13 12:26 AM
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5/2/13 12:29 AM
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Kings21 - Its not just about differing opinions. I disagree with Rogan all the time but listen to most of his podcasts, sometimes skipping based on the guest. I also disagree with the hosts of other podcasts I listen to. Its about 1)calling someone out on their bullshit and then ONE PODCAST LATER flip flopping because that someone gave you a phone call. If you dont want to ruffle feathers then dont bring it up on your podcast. Trying not to say Irvins name is just silly. 2) Its also about supporting rape and rape culture. I laugh at rape jokes just as much as I'll laugh about killing someone or ripping off their nuts or whatever it is but when you get back to reality and realize that the only thing that kept Irvin from having a rape conviction was the fact that he couldnt get his dick hard is nothing to take lightly. Not to mention his students raping another student, his Sambo coach and others.

I have a hard time believing Joe doesnt know all of this, he frequents the site enough but to say its internet rumor bullshit is ignorant and irresponsible. I dont like to bring peoples family into this but I wonder if Joe would let his kids train with Irvin. I know I wouldnt. Doesnt matter how many years after he was acquitted. Just like I wouldnt have let my kids go sleep at Neverland Ranch after not one but two molestation trials.

I love listening to Rogan go on and on about bigfoot and aliens but I've been wondering why he's kept quiet on this matter for so long until now, only to bitch about money making scams and then take it all back the next day.

Joe I thought you were all about calling out the fuckery.

You are seriously stretching it with no. 2. Saying anything positive about Lloyd Irvin's marketing tactics means you support rape culture? Come on now.

I think you may have misunderstood what I was trying to say. I didnt say that saying positive things about Lloyds marketing tactics equals supporting rape culture. You kind of took parts of my post and mashed them together. My #2 point was not equating a positive opinion on marketing tactics and rape culture. It was that Rogan has just as much access to all this info as all of us do and he glossed over the rape stuff with something like (paraphrasing here...) "a sexual situation". A Governor emailing dick-pics to a secretary is " a sexual situation." Avoiding rape on a technicality is not.

I dont think I stretched anything.
5/2/13 12:33 AM
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TalkShowOnMute -  I do not think Joe was talking about Lloyd in that other podcast , I was literally listening to that one only a few hours ago. He said that he met a bad ass black belt that was a killer... The guy ran away fled and they caught him when he started teaching jujitsu again. So whoever that is Phone Post

Think I know the one you are talking about. Its not the same one. I think the one you're talking about Joe says something like "the guy just couldnt stay away from jiu jitsu...he loved training so much that he couldnt stay away" (and the guy got pinched or something).


The ones we're talking about are the most recent ones. I believe its the one where its just him and Redban and then the beginning or the Ari+Amy Schumer one. Might be wrong on the Ari-Schumer though.
5/2/13 12:34 AM
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Kings21 - Its not just about differing opinions. I disagree with Rogan all the time but listen to most of his podcasts, sometimes skipping based on the guest. I also disagree with the hosts of other podcasts I listen to. Its about 1)calling someone out on their bullshit and then ONE PODCAST LATER flip flopping because that someone gave you a phone call. If you dont want to ruffle feathers then dont bring it up on your podcast. Trying not to say Irvins name is just silly. 2) Its also about supporting rape and rape culture. I laugh at rape jokes just as much as I'll laugh about killing someone or ripping off their nuts or whatever it is but when you get back to reality and realize that the only thing that kept Irvin from having a rape conviction was the fact that he couldnt get his dick hard is nothing to take lightly. Not to mention his students raping another student, his Sambo coach and others.

I have a hard time believing Joe doesnt know all of this, he frequents the site enough but to say its internet rumor bullshit is ignorant and irresponsible. I dont like to bring peoples family into this but I wonder if Joe would let his kids train with Irvin. I know I wouldnt. Doesnt matter how many years after he was acquitted. Just like I wouldnt have let my kids go sleep at Neverland Ranch after not one but two molestation trials.

I love listening to Rogan go on and on about bigfoot and aliens but I've been wondering why he's kept quiet on this matter for so long until now, only to bitch about money making scams and then take it all back the next day.

Joe I thought you were all about calling out the fuckery.

You are seriously stretching it with no. 2. Saying anything positive about Lloyd Irvin's marketing tactics means you support rape culture? Come on now.
Dude. Not trying to argue with you or be shitty, but how many rapists do you know? How many do you associate with? Lloyd Irvin literally is surrounded by rapists. 1 rapist shame on Lloyd Irvin. 2 rapists - Lloyd plus his sambo coach shame on them both. But then you add more rapes - his students. Then you add his frothing out of control cover up and denial of what kind of environment he seems to be a magnet of..... And well. How many rapists do you know? It's not coincidence after a while. It's who he is and the people he surrounds himself with. Phone Post 3.0
5/2/13 12:37 AM
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5/2/13 12:37 AM
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Jumbo Reverse Shrimp - I have to say it's funny Joe banned a "musician" (I'm sure a few of you know who it is) for less than what Lloyd's been doing.

Elaborate? No reason not to share

5/2/13 12:39 AM
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Sub 4later, thread is GREYED out. Phone Post 3.0
5/2/13 12:41 AM
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TalkShowOnMute -  I do not think Joe was talking about Lloyd in that other podcast , I was literally listening to that one only a few hours ago. He said that he met a bad ass black belt that was a killer... The guy ran away fled and they caught him when he started teaching jujitsu again. So whoever that is Phone Post

Think I know the one you are talking about. Its not the same one. I think the one you're talking about Joe says something like "the guy just couldnt stay away from jiu jitsu...he loved training so much that he couldnt stay away" (and the guy got pinched or something).


The ones we're talking about are the most recent ones. I believe its the one where its just him and Redban and then the beginning or the Ari+Amy Schumer one. Might be wrong on the Ari-Schumer though.

both links on first page here

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&thread=2168945&page=1

5/2/13 12:41 AM
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I tried listening to the JRE today for the first time and I hated it. First podcast show I've ever seen as well and i just absolutely couldn't stand it for more than 3 minutes, it's like a talk show on the radio that doesn't flow too well. I like Rogan as a commentator and comedian though, and he's a smart dude. Phone Post 3.0
5/2/13 12:45 AM
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MachidasBrew - I tried listening to the JRE today for the first time and I hated it. First podcast show I've ever seen as well and i just absolutely couldn't stand it for more than 3 minutes, it's like a talk show on the radio that doesn't flow too well. I like Rogan as a commentator and comedian though, and he's a smart dude. Phone Post 3.0

Hard to judge something on 3 minutes considering the broad range of guests and topics he discusses. Try at least 2 full podcasts featuring guests you are interested in, still may not be your cup of tea but at least you'll not be talking out of your ass with your opinion

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Kings21 - Its not just about differing opinions. I disagree with Rogan all the time but listen to most of his podcasts, sometimes skipping based on the guest. I also disagree with the hosts of other podcasts I listen to. Its about 1)calling someone out on their bullshit and then ONE PODCAST LATER flip flopping because that someone gave you a phone call. If you dont want to ruffle feathers then dont bring it up on your podcast. Trying not to say Irvins name is just silly. 2) Its also about supporting rape and rape culture. I laugh at rape jokes just as much as I'll laugh about killing someone or ripping off their nuts or whatever it is but when you get back to reality and realize that the only thing that kept Irvin from having a rape conviction was the fact that he couldnt get his dick hard is nothing to take lightly. Not to mention his students raping another student, his Sambo coach and others.

I have a hard time believing Joe doesnt know all of this, he frequents the site enough but to say its internet rumor bullshit is ignorant and irresponsible. I dont like to bring peoples family into this but I wonder if Joe would let his kids train with Irvin. I know I wouldnt. Doesnt matter how many years after he was acquitted. Just like I wouldnt have let my kids go sleep at Neverland Ranch after not one but two molestation trials.

I love listening to Rogan go on and on about bigfoot and aliens but I've been wondering why he's kept quiet on this matter for so long until now, only to bitch about money making scams and then take it all back the next day.

Joe I thought you were all about calling out the fuckery.

You are seriously stretching it with no. 2. Saying anything positive about Lloyd Irvin's marketing tactics means you support rape culture? Come on now.

I think you may have misunderstood what I was trying to say. I didnt say that saying positive things about Lloyds marketing tactics equals supporting rape culture. You kind of took parts of my post and mashed them together. My #2 point was not equating a positive opinion on marketing tactics and rape culture. It was that Rogan has just as much access to all this info as all of us do and he glossed over the rape stuff with something like (paraphrasing here...) "a sexual situation". A Governor emailing dick-pics to a secretary is " a sexual situation." Avoiding rape on a technicality is not.

I dont think I stretched anything.

Ah, fair enough mate. It was a long post and it's early here, hahah, my apologies.
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CRMartin11 - what did Joe ban the musician from? From attending UFC events? From his forum on joerogan.net? You don't need to tell us who the musician is, but come on give a little more detail please. If you PM me the story I have a very interesting Rogan story too. Not lying.

Joe banned him from his site for using dummy accounts to promote his music. He explained it in the podcast at about the same time he started talking about Lloyd, which is why it's interesting. I'm not going to say who it is because because I don't want to export the drama from the JRF here and those of you who post on there probably already know who it is or can make a good guess.
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IsmokeCrack - First Kirik, now Joe. The dark side is strong with TLI...

The plot thickens. Phone Post 3.0
indeed the dark side is strong here...

Phone Post 3.0
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Don't be a pirate hooker, Joe.

Renounce Lloyd and get Nick on your podcast.

It's the right thing to do.
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Kings21 - Its not just about differing opinions. I disagree with Rogan all the time but listen to most of his podcasts, sometimes skipping based on the guest. I also disagree with the hosts of other podcasts I listen to. Its about 1)calling someone out on their bullshit and then ONE PODCAST LATER flip flopping because that someone gave you a phone call. If you dont want to ruffle feathers then dont bring it up on your podcast. Trying not to say Irvins name is just silly. 2) Its also about supporting rape and rape culture. I laugh at rape jokes just as much as I'll laugh about killing someone or ripping off their nuts or whatever it is but when you get back to reality and realize that the only thing that kept Irvin from having a rape conviction was the fact that he couldnt get his dick hard is nothing to take lightly. Not to mention his students raping another student, his Sambo coach and others.

I have a hard time believing Joe doesnt know all of this, he frequents the site enough but to say its internet rumor bullshit is ignorant and irresponsible. I dont like to bring peoples family into this but I wonder if Joe would let his kids train with Irvin. I know I wouldnt. Doesnt matter how many years after he was acquitted. Just like I wouldnt have let my kids go sleep at Neverland Ranch after not one but two molestation trials.

I love listening to Rogan go on and on about bigfoot and aliens but I've been wondering why he's kept quiet on this matter for so long until now, only to bitch about money making scams and then take it all back the next day.

Joe I thought you were all about calling out the fuckery.

You are seriously stretching it with no. 2. Saying anything positive about Lloyd Irvin's marketing tactics means you support rape culture? Come on now.

I think you may have misunderstood what I was trying to say. I didnt say that saying positive things about Lloyds marketing tactics equals supporting rape culture. You kind of took parts of my post and mashed them together. My #2 point was not equating a positive opinion on marketing tactics and rape culture. It was that Rogan has just as much access to all this info as all of us do and he glossed over the rape stuff with something like (paraphrasing here...) "a sexual situation". A Governor emailing dick-pics to a secretary is " a sexual situation." Avoiding rape on a technicality is not.

I dont think I stretched anything.

Ah, fair enough mate. It was a long post and it's early here, hahah, my apologies.

No worries.
5/2/13 12:56 AM
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Kings21 - Its not just about differing opinions. I disagree with Rogan all the time but listen to most of his podcasts, sometimes skipping based on the guest. I also disagree with the hosts of other podcasts I listen to. Its about 1)calling someone out on their bullshit and then ONE PODCAST LATER flip flopping because that someone gave you a phone call. If you dont want to ruffle feathers then dont bring it up on your podcast. Trying not to say Irvins name is just silly. 2) Its also about supporting rape and rape culture. I laugh at rape jokes just as much as I'll laugh about killing someone or ripping off their nuts or whatever it is but when you get back to reality and realize that the only thing that kept Irvin from having a rape conviction was the fact that he couldnt get his dick hard is nothing to take lightly. Not to mention his students raping another student, his Sambo coach and others.

I have a hard time believing Joe doesnt know all of this, he frequents the site enough but to say its internet rumor bullshit is ignorant and irresponsible. I dont like to bring peoples family into this but I wonder if Joe would let his kids train with Irvin. I know I wouldnt. Doesnt matter how many years after he was acquitted. Just like I wouldnt have let my kids go sleep at Neverland Ranch after not one but two molestation trials.

I love listening to Rogan go on and on about bigfoot and aliens but I've been wondering why he's kept quiet on this matter for so long until now, only to bitch about money making scams and then take it all back the next day.

Joe I thought you were all about calling out the fuckery.

You are seriously stretching it with no. 2. Saying anything positive about Lloyd Irvin's marketing tactics means you support rape culture? Come on now.
Dude. Not trying to argue with you or be shitty, but how many rapists do you know? How many do you associate with? Lloyd Irvin literally is surrounded by rapists. 1 rapist shame on Lloyd Irvin. 2 rapists - Lloyd plus his sambo coach shame on them both. But then you add more rapes - his students. Then you add his frothing out of control cover up and denial of what kind of environment he seems to be a magnet of..... And well. How many rapists do you know? It's not coincidence after a while. It's who he is and the people he surrounds himself with. Phone Post 3.0

Ummm.... sorry dude, don't quite understand your point lol. I don't know any rapists.... I think.

I misunderstood what Kings was getting at (that somehow Joe is supporting rape culture by saying positive stuff about him).
5/2/13 12:57 AM
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