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5/8/13 3:14 PM
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hendo was a bit green Who takes it? Phone Post
5/8/13 3:20 PM
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With no weight cut this is a great fight. No clue, the fans would win.
5/8/13 3:21 PM
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Do you mean natural prime Henderson or TRT Hendo? Phone Post
5/9/13 9:17 PM
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Pride hendo! Phone Post
5/9/13 11:44 PM
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Pride and prime Hendo KTFO Saku.

Hendo took the belt from Wand. Phone Post 3.0
5/10/13 1:16 AM
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IsmokeCrack - Pride and prime Hendo KTFO Saku.

Hendo took the belt from Wand. Phone Post 3.0

Hendo also took the belt from Vanderlei IMMEDIETLY following his horrific KO at the Hands of Cro Cop...Vanderlei was already broken, not to mention he was VISIBLY sick going into the fight w/ Dan. In their 1st match where Vanderlei was younger and both were healthy Dan lost.
5/10/13 1:21 AM
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IsmokeCrack - Pride and prime Hendo KTFO Saku.

Hendo took the belt from Wand. Phone Post 3.0

Hendo also took the belt from Vanderlei IMMEDIETLY following his horrific KO at the Hands of Cro Cop...Vanderlei was already broken, not to mention he was VISIBLY sick going into the fight w/ Dan. In their 1st match where Vanderlei was younger and both were healthy Dan lost.

Interesting. Wanderlei didn't make any excuses, why are you?

 

 

Dan by KO. 

5/10/13 1:27 AM
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Hendo took the belt from Wand. Phone Post 3.0

Hendo also took the belt from Vanderlei IMMEDIETLY following his horrific KO at the Hands of Cro Cop...Vanderlei was already broken, not to mention he was VISIBLY sick going into the fight w/ Dan. In their 1st match where Vanderlei was younger and both were healthy Dan lost.

This is a pic of Wandy after his first fight with Dan.

5/10/13 1:31 AM
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Prime Hendo vs. Saku...

Saku likely wins via questionable Pride judging.
5/10/13 1:36 AM
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IsmokeCrack - Pride and prime Hendo KTFO Saku.

Hendo took the belt from Wand. Phone Post 3.0

Hendo also took the belt from Vanderlei IMMEDIETLY following his horrific KO at the Hands of Cro Cop...Vanderlei was already broken, not to mention he was VISIBLY sick going into the fight w/ Dan. In their 1st match where Vanderlei was younger and both were healthy Dan lost.

This is a pic of Wandy after his first fight with Dan.


And a "prime" example of why we dont judge fights on how fighters look after them.

"Did you even see the fight?"
5/10/13 1:39 AM
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Hendo took the belt from Wand. Phone Post 3.0

Hendo also took the belt from Vanderlei IMMEDIETLY following his horrific KO at the Hands of Cro Cop...Vanderlei was already broken, not to mention he was VISIBLY sick going into the fight w/ Dan. In their 1st match where Vanderlei was younger and both were healthy Dan lost.

Interesting. Wanderlei didn't make any excuses, why are you?

 

 

Dan by KO. 


Wand being decapitated and completely KTFO the fight before is a fact. Him being sick was a rumour but imo, Wand is clearly noticeably slower in that fight. Hendo also broke his hand i think and hurt him with his left like a boss but Wand was clearly not all there that night.

Dan was not at his prime when he lost to Wand either but they were at pretty similar stages in their careers.
5/10/13 1:40 AM
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IsmokeCrack - Pride and prime Hendo KTFO Saku.

Hendo took the belt from Wand. Phone Post 3.0

Hendo also took the belt from Vanderlei IMMEDIETLY following his horrific KO at the Hands of Cro Cop...Vanderlei was already broken, not to mention he was VISIBLY sick going into the fight w/ Dan. In their 1st match where Vanderlei was younger and both were healthy Dan lost.

This is a pic of Wandy after his first fight with Dan.


And a "prime" example of why we dont judge fights on how fighters look after them.

"Did you even see the fight?"

I watched it live.

Silva didn't just "look" bad after that fight. He was fucking wrecked.
5/10/13 1:43 AM
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As far as Saku/Dan, well most people see how Dan is now and how Sak is now or either never knew both fighters back then or have skewed mememories as usual.

Dan has been consistently taken down by guys throughout his career though he almost always stayed out of trouble once down save for Big Nog and Little Nog. However "Pride Dan," was outwrestled by Ninja and Arona, fortunate to get the nod over Ninja, lost to Arona, fortunate to get the nod over Yuki Kondo, lost to Misaki (also beat Misaki), fortunate to get by Busta...hardly invinsible to a top notch wrestler like Sak though Sak was smaller than the above guys and Dan only got tapped by the top HW grappler and after getting smacked around standing by Rog before getting tapped.

I think it could have gone either way then.
5/10/13 1:45 AM
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IsmokeCrack - Pride and prime Hendo KTFO Saku.

Hendo took the belt from Wand. Phone Post 3.0

Hendo also took the belt from Vanderlei IMMEDIETLY following his horrific KO at the Hands of Cro Cop...Vanderlei was already broken, not to mention he was VISIBLY sick going into the fight w/ Dan. In their 1st match where Vanderlei was younger and both were healthy Dan lost.

This is a pic of Wandy after his first fight with Dan.


And a "prime" example of why we dont judge fights on how fighters look after them.

"Did you even see the fight?"

I watched it live.

Silva didn't just "look" bad after that fight. He was fucking wrecked.

Dan had but that 1 shot early and it was all Wand thereafter, completely dominated Dan. You do remember that part too right? I have no recollection of Wand looking "fucking wrecked" after. In fact, he didnt even look "fucking wrecked" when his eye was getting checked by the docs, pleading with them not to stop it let alone by the end of the fight after he finished stomping on Dan.
5/10/13 1:56 AM
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Bucephalus - Prime Hendo vs. Saku...

Saku likely wins via questionable Pride judging.
Pride judges lived them some Hendo, isn't that why he was called "Decision Dan" Phone Post 3.0
5/10/13 6:07 AM
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IsmokeCrack - Pride and prime Hendo KTFO Saku.

Hendo took the belt from Wand. Phone Post 3.0

Hendo also took the belt from Vanderlei IMMEDIETLY following his horrific KO at the Hands of Cro Cop...Vanderlei was already broken, not to mention he was VISIBLY sick going into the fight w/ Dan. In their 1st match where Vanderlei was younger and both were healthy Dan lost.

This is a pic of Wandy after his first fight with Dan.


And a "prime" example of why we dont judge fights on how fighters look after them.

"Did you even see the fight?"

I watched it live.

Silva didn't just "look" bad after that fight. He was fucking wrecked.
Hendo was hard to tap. Went a lot of rounds with the Nogs.

At first I thought Sak would catch him, but the more I think about it, Hendo lands the right somewhere in the fight and ends it.

Hendo wins 7/10 Phone Post 3.0
5/10/13 6:25 AM
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Wasa-B - Dan had but that 1 shot early and it was all Wand thereafter, completely dominated Dan. You do remember that part too right? I have no recollection of Wand looking "fucking wrecked" after. In fact, he didnt even look "fucking wrecked" when his eye was getting checked by the docs, pleading with them not to stop it let alone by the end of the fight after he finished stomping on Dan.

One shot? Dan landed the most significant strikes of the fight.. beginning with a massive right hand and following up with ground and pound that was interrupted by the ref, giving Silva a chance to recover. Not to mention Silva's illegal knee to Dan's head on the ground not long after.. all of which shifted the momentum of the fight. Silva eventually won due to positional dominance in the later part of the fight, NOT "stomping".

And for the record, I agree that Silva won the decision.. but it wasn't one-sided and it wasn't a 'beating'. If anyone was beat up and hurt, it was Silva.
5/10/13 6:28 AM
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Bucephalus - Prime Hendo vs. Saku...

Saku likely wins via questionable Pride judging.
Pride judges lived them some Hendo, isn't that why he was called "Decision Dan" Phone Post 3.0

Not really.. that wasn't centered on Pride. It started with Dan's UFC tournament wins over Newton and Goes.. A lot of people thought he lost both of those fights.

His fight with Nog was in RINGS and had specific judging criteria that favored the smaller fighter.
5/10/13 6:40 AM
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Probably goes similar to hendo vs carlos newton, submission wrestler with good creativity getting taken down here and there for a decision. Phone Post 3.0
5/10/13 6:44 AM
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Brabo Ben - Probably goes similar to hendo vs carlos newton, submission wrestler with good creativity getting taken down here and there for a decision. Phone Post 3.0
Agreed. Phone Post 3.0
5/10/13 9:37 AM
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Brabo Ben - Probably goes similar to hendo vs carlos newton, submission wrestler with good creativity getting taken down here and there for a decision. Phone Post 3.0
Agreed. Phone Post 3.0


Prime MMA Hendo looks to stand a good deal of that fight.
5/10/13 11:38 AM
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good fight that could have gone either way. If I had to put $$$ on it, I'd pick Hendo!
5/10/13 12:30 PM
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Hendo took the belt from Wand. Phone Post 3.0

Hendo also took the belt from Vanderlei IMMEDIETLY following his horrific KO at the Hands of Cro Cop...Vanderlei was already broken, not to mention he was VISIBLY sick going into the fight w/ Dan. In their 1st match where Vanderlei was younger and both were healthy Dan lost.

Interesting. Wanderlei didn't make any excuses, why are you?

 

 

Dan by KO. 


Because if the man was sick than it is absolutely a factor that affected the fight. Just watch him. This has been spoken of before, nothing new. Vanderlei was clearly sick pre fight...LOL @ fighting Dan Henderson while battling the flu not being a factor. It is. A huge one as a matter of fact.
5/10/13 12:33 PM
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OK. Watch Vanderlei as they're announcing their names in the ring right before they fight. Please tell me what is going on with his throat. What exactly would you guess is going on ?
5/10/13 12:38 PM
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Positional Dominance? Thats an interesting recollection. Post the pic of Hendo after the fight and everyone will see it was dominance. Wand even stepped up from mount once just to stomp Hendo.

As for the "illegal Knee" it didnt even land clean. Landed with the meat of the thigh (almost mid thigh).

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