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5/18/13 1:25 AM
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So...yeah, according to the Rings Criteria, Dan Henderson did:

- X?
- Y?
- Z?

to beat Nogueira.
5/21/13 8:19 AM
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Wasa-B - So...yeah, according to the Rings Criteria, Dan Henderson did:

- X?
- Y?
- Z?

to beat Nogueira.


How close was the 1st round in general? Hendo outweighed by about 40 LBS and in VS Nog?
5/21/13 8:27 AM
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"and the fact remains that Dan Henderson has some of the most impressive wins on his resume than any fighter in MMA history."

He has some of the most impressive names in the win column of his record. The problem, as some are pointing out, is that many of the actual in-ring performances weren't quite as impressives as that "W" would make you think; as in, you don't watch them and come away thinking "damn, Dan is sure better than that guy!"...again, half the time a significant portion of fans -- possibly even the majority in some cases -- came away thinking "Dan lost that fight".



Sure and many are even ignorant of the fuckin rules fought under and still flap their gums too. It proves a point? Your hero is bigger than Hendo. WTF would AS's record be if he fought Ninja, Shogun, Nog X2, Lil Nog, Wand X2, Arona, Fedor and the rest of his one best ever list of opponents?

Hendo fought the best regardless of size, there were close fights. Others failed to fight the best and they knew the result would NOT be close if they did.
5/21/13 2:15 PM
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Wasa-B - So...yeah, according to the Rings Criteria, Dan Henderson did:

- X?
- Y?
- Z?

to beat Nogueira.


How close was the 1st round in general? Hendo outweighed by about 40 LBS and in VS Nog?

Ok, now im confused. Does Rings base their decisions off who does the best at the most weight disadvantage in the first round now?

Its a simple question dude: according to the Rings Criteria, Dan Henderson did what to beat Nog? Not how close was the first round unless Rings weighs the first round the highest out of all rounds now. And, funny enough, I also asked the question of how much advantage in a decision does a weight disadvantage give you? Its a very legit and relevant question to this arguement, esp now that you're invoking it but both you and the other guy avoided it.

Funny business, this criteria thing. Its a nice thing to quote or go back to but then when we start discussing it......
5/21/13 2:16 PM
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orcus - 

"and the fact remains that Dan Henderson has some of the most impressive wins on his resume than any fighter in MMA history."

He has some of the most impressive names in the win column of his record. The problem, as some are pointing out, is that many of the actual in-ring performances weren't quite as impressives as that "W" would make you think; as in, you don't watch them and come away thinking "damn, Dan is sure better than that guy!"...again, half the time a significant portion of fans -- possibly even the majority in some cases -- came away thinking "Dan lost that fight".



Sure and many are even ignorant of the fuckin rules fought under and still flap their gums too. It proves a point? Your hero is bigger than Hendo. WTF would AS's record be if he fought Ninja, Shogun, Nog X2, Lil Nog, Wand X2, Arona, Fedor and the rest of his one best ever list of opponents?

Hendo fought the best regardless of size, there were close fights. Others failed to fight the best and they knew the result would NOT be close if they did.

I think we can see what this is about.

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