UnderGround Forums
 

UnderGround Forums >> Cyborg didn't turn down Rousey fight over weight


5/9/13 3:29 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
epic hero
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 5/29/12
Posts: 2088
RampageFitsLikeAGlove - 

Neither Dana nor Ronda want Cyborg in the UFC at 135.  Both of their dreams would go down the drain.  Carmouche seems like a nice enough person, but when it comes to fighting, she is no Cyborg.


Why would they when they can keep fighting people like Liz Carmouche?

They're trying to play us like fools
5/9/13 3:34 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
da Vinci 81
138 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 11/24/07
Posts: 4470
And cyborg has no leverage either. Rhonda just did half mill in buys against someone nobody had ever heard of. Those are great numbers. They don't need cyborg. And winning fights in invicta that no one watches won't do anything for her. Phone Post 3.0
5/9/13 3:39 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
SRTGEO
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 3/29/10
Posts: 1696
MexiCain AmeriCain - Not this shit again... Get off the roids, drop some muscle and make 135. Phone Post 3.0

.
5/9/13 3:42 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
BRZ
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 2/8/09
Posts: 9446
_backfist -  You guys are just saying this because she's not as attractive as the champion. She should have made at least the same 90k Ronda made for the fight. The title, I'm reality, was vacant. And I'm sure the only reason Dana have get the belt is because he wanted or was fucking her. Phone Post

Cyborg didn't have a problem with Gina making 125K for their title fight. 

5/9/13 3:46 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
Devlin
82 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 10/16/07
Posts: 4019
Is an 8 fight deal a really bad thing? If she beat rousey she'd of been champ and its not like theres huge competition. Phone Post
5/9/13 3:51 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
time traveling 12er
206 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 10/12/11
Posts: 1335

Wow, way to waste a bunch of fan equity.  They just made all of their supporters look like fools.  All those guys on these boards swearing up and down she would die if she had to go down to 135 now look dumb.  I'm sure the die hards will find some logical loophole, but either way they don't look great.

5/9/13 3:53 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
chew22
22 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 2/28/05
Posts: 872
It's all playing out fine. ronda was the greater draw to media and fanbase so got a better deal. cyborg was coming off suspension anyway so wait a bit for her stock to rise.

the future is all bright - ufc can do a 145# division a little later after women's mma is cemented in to the org. cyborg can win it. then they can do a superfight with rousey and everyone involved makes more.
5/9/13 3:54 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
crowbar
675 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 1/1/01
Posts: 36767

Surprise,Surprise.

5/9/13 4:02 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
thatdude21601
28 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Edited: 05/09/13 4:06 PM
Member Since: 5/6/10
Posts: 689
You don't ask a Brazilian to go on a shitty California diet for years. Anderson might go to welterweight to fight GSP, but do you think he'd sign for 8 fights at 170? No way he wants to get back to eating two chickens and a pig everyday. <br />

It'd be fun watching Tito if Marloes won!
5/9/13 4:09 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
saemskin
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 6/30/10
Posts: 225
That is some dumass Tito Ortiz logic right there. Sorry Chris, but Honda isn't the one with *you* on her lips and on her mind and all she can talk about in the media, quite the opposite.

You are letting Dumass Tito waste your potential.

You are letting him put you in a position where your fans are starting to hate you.

You are the one fighting regional bums.

You are the best female figher out there. Until you put yourself in the position to be fighting the best competition, none of that matters.

You are leeting dumass Tito Oritz waste your potential.
5/9/13 4:10 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
JeffersonDArcyChoke
267 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 11/24/10
Posts: 14150
RampageFitsLikeAGlove -

Neither Dana nor Ronda want Cyborg in the UFC at 135.  Both of their dreams would go down the drain.  Carmouche seems like a nice enough person, but when it comes to fighting, she is no Cyborg.

Boom.

Dana doesn't want Mark Hunt or Roy Nelson fighting for the title on PPV.

Hence, why he will book Nelson vs Hunt even if Mark beats JDS. This fight at least kills 1, if it sucks he can kill both and say the fans demanded another bout.

Dana doesn't want Chris Weidman messing up the big plans of Silva-Jones.

Dana would have preferred Tate beat Zingano to set up a Ronda-Tate TUF.

Dana definitely doesn't want Cris Cyborg wrecking shop and winning the belt.

Period.

Cris killed the Gina Carano show.

They know it could happen again.

This is why Liz Carmouche was put in that fight and paid peanuts.

She was to be a jobber. A bit player.

The scary moment was when she could have subbed Ronda.

Dana doesn't want his girl's face looking like hamburger and having to put that belt around Cyborg's waist.

Fight never happens. Phone Post
5/9/13 4:22 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
JJLong
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 7/16/12
Posts: 4
Dogmadeth -  Cyborg will end up being the Fedor of women's fighters. Widely regarded as the best of her time but never stepping up to proove it due to bad management. Phone Post

When did Fedor test positive for steroids?
5/9/13 4:26 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
MrMead
114 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 8/7/07
Posts: 4346
The only fight that really matters and people are bashing Cyborg. How many men have been caught using steroids or illegal supplements in MMA, yet she is shit on left and right because some of you guys find the other fighter more attractive.
5/9/13 4:28 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
Shogun of Harlem
142 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 1/1/01
Posts: 20512
FinestScotch - 

This again...

First Cyborg claims for MONTHS that she can't make 135. Now it's about a lack of building her up and she didn't like the terms.

Cyborg fights at 145 in Invicta, and her last event did under 5,000 buys at 10$ a pop.

Ronda fights at 135 in the UFC and is the champ, and she did over 500,000 buys at 60$ a pop.

Like it or not, there is 0 reason for Ronda to gain 10 pounds and fight a known roider in a division that doesn't exist in the UFC.

Stop the excuses, stop the bullshit. You want to be built up? Drop the weight and take the belt. You want a better contract? Drop the weight and take the belt. Until then, fight lesser competition at Invicta. That's the right move for your career, according to Tito.


Motherfucking knowledge has been dropped.

/Thread
5/9/13 4:28 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
BigEyedFish
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 3/18/02
Posts: 56259
MrMead - The only fight that really matters and people are bashing Cyborg. How many men have been caught using steroids or illegal supplements in MMA, yet she is shit on left and right because some of you guys find the other fighter more attractive.

this.

a bunch of fucking losers on this thread.

This fight will never happen because it would be bad for WMMA. Ronda will get destroyed.
5/9/13 4:30 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
Nada MT
14 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 7/15/09
Posts: 45
I think Cyborg made the right decision all the way around.
We will never know the details of what was in that contract. There could have been severe penalties if it proves impossible to make weight. They could have had all kinds of controls on her career written into it.
Perhaps instead of thinking she is a greedy roided up meathead dumbass fighter who doesn't know what is is good for her (by which you really mean us the fans) she could be a fighter who is trying to right the course of her ship after a suspension and fanbase loss. Phone Post
5/9/13 4:37 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
JJLong
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 7/16/12
Posts: 5
MrMead - The only fight that really matters and people are bashing Cyborg. How many men have been caught using steroids or illegal supplements in MMA, yet she is shit on left and right because some of you guys find the other fighter more attractive.

It isn't the only fight that really matters. Maybe in your tiny world it does. But the UFC has established a 135lb division for women and is building contenders for the champion. If you look at their immediate booking, you can see UFC is building both Sara McMann and Alexis Davis towards title shots. And many people see them as the two most likely contenders to beat Ronda.

The only reason I brought up steroids is because people were trying to compare Cyborg to Fedor, which is a ridiculous comparison for many reasons, but since money is the discussion, Cyborg is overestimating her worth. Her stock dropped immediately when she was busted for roids, the same with Fedor after his undefeated streak ended.

I love this. First you had a ton of people Championing Cyborg's position because of her claim that it was because of weight. Now all of a sudden she has changed her tune and immediately the children have started following the pied piper all over again.

5/9/13 4:52 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
Soup and Beer
166 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Edited: 05/09/13 4:54 PM
Member Since: 1/1/01
Posts: 16925
BigEyedFish - 
MrMead - The only fight that really matters and people are bashing Cyborg. How many men have been caught using steroids or illegal supplements in MMA, yet she is shit on left and right because some of you guys find the other fighter more attractive.

this.

a bunch of fucking losers on this thread.

This fight will never happen because it would be bad for WMMA. Ronda will get destroyed.

 

No, this fight will never happen because when offered a title fight, this roider tucked tail and ran to Invicta.  She and Tito said was impossible for her to cut the weight and now openly admits she was lying about that.

I swear Cyborg could come forward and confess that she's a man, has always been a man, and her nuthuggers would still defend her and claim Rousey is ducking.

5/9/13 4:55 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
JJLong
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 7/16/12
Posts: 6
Exactly, what was up with Cyborg being on that scale for her Invicta press conference if she could make the weight after all?
5/9/13 4:56 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
LotionInTheBasket
96 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 12/13/12
Posts: 344
Nice shirt she got on.

How can you say you are humble yet wear a shirt that says you are going to make someone your bitch?

On another note, if she does make Ronda her bitch, we she fuck her with her dick?

I might pay to see that. Phone Post 3.0
5/9/13 4:57 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
BigEyedFish
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 3/18/02
Posts: 56261
Im far from a Cybory nuthugger. To me its more about the fags on this site who take shots at her while the majority of male fighters in MMA are doing some sort of PED, just not getting caught (actually a lot are getting caught).

But people seem to love to take shots at Cyborg because they find Ronda attractive. Its utterly retarded.
5/9/13 4:58 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
crowbar
675 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 1/1/01
Posts: 36768

Tito & Cyborg rolled the dice....

 

 

 

5/9/13 5:33 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
BigEyedFish
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 3/18/02
Posts: 56262
JeffersonDArcyChoke - 
RampageFitsLikeAGlove -

Neither Dana nor Ronda want Cyborg in the UFC at 135.  Both of their dreams would go down the drain.  Carmouche seems like a nice enough person, but when it comes to fighting, she is no Cyborg.

Boom.

Dana doesn't want Mark Hunt or Roy Nelson fighting for the title on PPV.

Hence, why he will book Nelson vs Hunt even if Mark beats JDS. This fight at least kills 1, if it sucks he can kill both and say the fans demanded another bout.

Dana doesn't want Chris Weidman messing up the big plans of Silva-Jones.

Dana would have preferred Tate beat Zingano to set up a Ronda-Tate TUF.

Dana definitely doesn't want Cris Cyborg wrecking shop and winning the belt.

Period.

Cris killed the Gina Carano show.

They know it could happen again.

This is why Liz Carmouche was put in that fight and paid peanuts.

She was to be a jobber. A bit player.

The scary moment was when she could have subbed Ronda.

Dana doesn't want his girl's face looking like hamburger and having to put that belt around Cyborg's waist.

Fight never happens. Phone Post

this man gets it
5/9/13 5:43 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
Soup and Beer
166 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 1/1/01
Posts: 16926
BigEyedFish - Im far from a Cybory nuthugger. To me its more about the fags on this site who take shots at her while the majority of male fighters in MMA are doing some sort of PED, just not getting caught (actually a lot are getting caught).

But people seem to love to take shots at Cyborg because they find Ronda attractive. Its utterly retarded.

Ok fair enough. 

Let's compare her situation with a male equivalent.  Let's use Josh Barnett when he was in the UFC.  He got busted for roiding after the Couture fight.  Let's say after his supsension for roids, Josh comes back and gets offered an immediate title shot.  But Josh insists the heavy weight champion move up to super heavy weight.  Dana tells him they don't have a super HW division so he will have to lose the weight.  Josh insists he will die if he tries to drop down to HW because the roids have made it impossible for him to lose the weight.  Dana gets Mike Dolce to help him out and they talk and agree it would be no problem to lose the extra pounds.  But then, unexplainably, Josh refuses to sign then runs to Strikeforce.  Then starts squawking that the UFC HW champion is ducking him.  This would probably garner a lot of aggro from fans against Josh.  Just like it's doing against CyRoid.

5/9/13 5:46 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
Lord Zeik
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 3/3/13
Posts: 16
KingofBJJ - Rousey started out both in Judo and MMA at Cyborg's weight, so the onus is on Ronda to "man up".
Why is that? She is the champ. When was the last time a champ let the challenger set the terms? Phone Post

Reply Post

You must log in to post a reply. Click here to login.