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5/15/13 2:29 AM
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The Acorn
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What should shorter people focus on? Phone Post 3.0
5/15/13 2:34 AM
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As a guy who is tall I can tell you that short guys are a pain to grapple with. I have the most trouble with short guys who do not give me any space to do anything.
5/15/13 4:00 AM
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Marcelo Garcia is fairly short- 5'7-8", and plays a type of game that works well for people with short legs- focusing on guards like the butterfly guard, xguard, single leg x guard, etc, and not using the closed guard as much.
5/15/13 4:32 AM
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Yeah develop a strong open guard. Whether it's butterfly, X, spider or whatever
Guys like marcelo and Leozinho are fairly short and have been very successful against bigger guys

What height and weight division are you? Phone Post
5/15/13 11:22 AM
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JZilla - Yeah develop a strong open guard. Whether it's butterfly, X, spider or whatever
Guys like marcelo and Leozinho are fairly short and have been very successful against bigger guys

What height and weight division are you? Phone Post
I'm 5'8 about 200 lb been training for about
3 months, haven't competed yet. Phone Post 3.0
5/15/13 11:30 AM
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303 - As a guy who is tall I can tell you that short guys are a pain to grapple with. I have the most trouble with short guys who do not give me any space to do anything.
Completely true. To a certain extent I get intimidated rolling with short guys. I'm 6' 4. Its very difficult for me rolling with short guys with short limbs. I have to concentrate way more on being snug. So its something I know I have to do more often. But yeah always in the back of my mind I freak a bit all cause of one tournament match a few years ago at purple. Phone Post
5/15/13 11:31 AM
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Marcelo is also great on the feet and attacks immediately . Has excellent wrestling.  Constant pressure from all angles and positions.  

5/15/13 11:37 AM
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Also know that as a short guy everything you do is naturally tighter in comparison to big guys. So maybe your triangle isn't as easy to set up but if you get it locked down its almost for sure super tight like hell. Everything you do is naturally more snug and tight. If you are short and explosive that's even deadlier because its hard for people to get a hold of you and you may get the advantag on scrambles. Even if you are short don't let that deter you from learning stuff. Learn everything with an open mind and when you are more experienced(not sure what belt you are) than filter out the bs that doesn't work for you. Watch Marcelo garcia. Phone Post
5/15/13 11:43 AM
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Get taller.
5/15/13 11:57 AM
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Look up Jimmy Cerra on youtube. He's 5 foot I think and a beast
5/15/13 12:20 PM
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The Acorn -
JZilla - Yeah develop a strong open guard. Whether it's butterfly, X, spider or whatever
Guys like marcelo and Leozinho are fairly short and have been very successful against bigger guys

What height and weight division are you? Phone Post
I'm 5'8 about 200 lb been training for about
3 months, haven't competed yet. Phone Post 3.0
5'8" isn't short buddy. I'm 5'6", so watch it.
Haha. In all seriousness, what I find works best for me is to work on both my bottom and top games. When you are generally the smaller guy in a match like myself, a strong side control goes a long way. I use a lot of tail chokes because it gives you a lot of control on a lankier/longer opponent. Like the other people said on here, your open guards are very important as well. In competition, use your size to your advantage. Takedowns and throws work better on people who are taller than you in some cases. Phone Post 3.0
5/15/13 12:53 PM
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The Acorn - What should shorter people focus on? Phone Post 3.0

sweeps to pass is my strong suit im 5-9 258 pretty solid and i was a lighter weight started bjj at 160 ish in high school once apon a time fought mma from 170 up so i can move with technique... Sweeps x guard or half to pass works well with my base. Alot of Marcelo garcia influence i also took a little bit of half guard sweep setup from jeff monson and of course his Ns 69 choke or what ever you want to call it. All about bjj for your body type my dimensions make it hard for me to get triangled or armbar'd unless im just sleeping but its damn hard for me to triangle somebody from guard i have to have angle just right. All about turning curse into a blessing imo. :)
5/15/13 1:11 PM
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I'm 5'7" about 230
I play half spider, spider and I'm working on butterfly

3 months into training I think you should work on what your instructor says and ultimately at this stage you are learning fundamentals so I think you have to spend time in closed guard and learning the basic triangle, even if they are both difficult for your frame and maybe something that you will not use too often in five years.
There will be opponents who give you trouble because they have long limbs but as some guys have said above, your short limbs will give them trouble too. Phone Post
5/15/13 1:35 PM
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Muffinho - Get taller.
Lol Phone Post 3.0
5/15/13 2:24 PM
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X-guard all day... I'm about average height (5'10"), but have shorter legs..it works like a charm.

5/15/13 2:37 PM
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I'm 5'6 180 pounds. I play a lot of de la riva and spider.
5/15/13 4:35 PM
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i agree with jzilla as to work on what your instructor is teaching and to learn the fundamentals. as you progress, you'll find out what works for you. as for me, i've been training for 3.5 years and i was primarily a closed guard, half guard, and dhg guy. now i'm incorporating butterfly and dlr into my game. i'm 5'6 162lbs btw... probably the shortest guy on this thread so far lol
5/15/13 4:58 PM
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as a white and blue belt, just trane. after a couple years, you'll figure out what you are good at.
5/15/13 6:21 PM
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5/15/13 7:09 PM
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5'5" 180 open guard is current favorite to play. Crazy pressure on top, don't give them ANY space or openings to work. Scrambling advantages due to shorter turning radius.

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5/15/13 8:18 PM
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5/15/13 10:00 PM
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Dont waste time with the triangle.
5/15/13 10:57 PM
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pcuzz - Dont waste time with the triangle.
Why? Im 5'8" I get it quite abit.


Also, just wondering...how tall is Caio Terra? Phone Post 3.0
5/15/13 11:04 PM
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It's not just height that's important, it's height and weight relationships. Caio is like 5'7, but that's lanky as hell at rooster weight.

I'm 6'1, that doesn't tell you anything about my build. I can be 6'1 260lbs and have completely different physical limitations than someone who 6'1 181lbs.

5/15/13 11:08 PM
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Another thing: I don;t like trying to predetermine a style of BJJ based on physical abilities. You learn and grow into your own BJJ. You'll find the things that work best for your body and your personality. Sure, you should watch guys with similar dimensions and try what they do, but try everything just in case. When you get closer to the end of your blue belt (assuming strict grading standards), you'll have a better idea of what game works best for you (your body, your personality etc).


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