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5/18/13 6:33 PM
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Alot of it isn't hate. I'm super happy that she is finally comfortable with herself as a person. That's fantastic. What I'm not happy with, is her hiding the fact she was a male to other fighters and only told the women because a story was going to be published on her.
The doctor they used on Inside MMA is transgender which makes her opinion very askewed. People simply feel a a person with male attributes should not be fighting women. Phone Post 3.0
"Fair" and "hate" are so misused now a days it's laughable. Phone Post 3.0
5/18/13 6:41 PM
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Fuck this guy. Yes. I said it correctly. Guy Phone Post 3.0
5/18/13 6:56 PM
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I just hope no one has to get seriously hurt for this to be settled once and for all.

 

There's too much payday pressure for some natural born women to say no and that's even more disgusting than this dude kneeing women in the face.  Well, as disgusting anyway.

 

FF should be facing charges, not have an upcoming fight against another natural born woman because 'He's pretty good at this.'

 

Get a sex change

Beat up women

????

Profit!

 

5/18/13 8:00 PM
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Nothing personal but "she" needs to go away.

5/19/13 1:39 AM
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mestregruber -  We got the most knowledgeable doctor we could find. There are obviously doctors on both sides of this issue. This doctor happens to have had the same operation and performs them, making her more knowledgeable than most on the topic. Phone Post

ALso biased if the doctor makes money selling the success of the procdure

5/20/13 12:42 PM
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5/20/13 1:05 PM
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That stupid what zingano said. As fighters were just mindless and fight whoever the commission says to? So if the commission says fight a full blown man you do it? Phone Post 3.0
5/20/13 1:13 PM
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Yup, but these pc guys need a trigger word to hide behind. If you say a man shouldn't compete against women that's "hate".
5/20/13 1:17 PM
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Hahaha!!

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5/20/13 2:11 PM
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5/20/13 2:50 PM
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This shit shouldn't even be debatable at all , if your born a man your a man / Phone Post 3.0
5/20/13 2:54 PM
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Great summation.

5/20/13 3:03 PM
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Abrtitans - That stupid what zingano said. As fighters were just mindless and fight whoever the commission says to? So if the commission says fight a full blown man you do it? Phone Post 3.0

I was a big fan of hers until now. I just cna't support someone so dumb

5/20/13 3:03 PM
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he's a sick, twisted dude.
5/20/13 5:07 PM
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Phone Post 3.0
5/20/13 5:35 PM
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Voted up for perfection.

 

Yes, of course I support her right to change her body to suit herself.  Rock on.

 

No, she should not be allowed to fight.  The docs cannot agree on whether she does or does not have a significant advantage.

There needs to be more research and a concensus agreement between the majority of the docs.

5/20/13 5:36 PM
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5/20/13 5:51 PM
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5/20/13 5:54 PM
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In her defense though she certainly has the logic of a female Phone Post 3.0
5/20/13 6:03 PM
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Blue name please?


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5/20/13 6:18 PM
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This is ridiculous.... That said I will be watching that fight on Friday. See if anybody gets paralyzed.
5/20/13 7:19 PM
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Now that there is starting to be some money in women's MMA, this might become a viable option for some fighters that will never quite reach the top of their respective mens weight classes.

Would you want be the guy stuck in #2 limbo because you couldn't beat the champ and will never get a 3rd title shot, when you could just pull a Bobbitt, throw your junk on ice for a few years & own a womens division, retire and re-attach.

Chaelene Sonnen
Rachelle Franklin
BJ Penn
Josefine Koscheck
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5/20/13 7:21 PM
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Does "her" vestigial penis weigh "her" down?
5/20/13 7:35 PM
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Ban this freak show......MR fox is also now a lesbian=just a dude with surgery...
5/20/13 7:48 PM
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I am not aware of any scientific studies being completed regarding measurement of competition advantages in transgender combat athletes. Therefore everything said is merely conjecture/guesswork.

As a ringside physician, neurobiologist and scientist, I will however post some measureable differences between male and female skulls, and brains.

I feel these are two very important parts of a combat athlete.

Male Skull:

Heavier weight

Thicker Bone Mass

Larger Volume

male Forehead Slightly Sloping /receding

male vault of skull is more rounded

male has more massive mandible, maxilla and zygomatic bones

male has supraorbital margins more rounded

male has more massive mastoid process

males possess larger facial muscles covering/cushioning bones

Male Brain:
4% more brain cells in males

100 gms more brain tissue in male

Male brains contain about 6.5 times more gray matter
Female brains have more than 9.5 times as much white matter
The frontal area of the cortex and the temporal area of the cortex are more precisely organized in women, and are bigger in volume
An area of the brain called the inferior-parietal lobule (IPL) is typically larger in males (involved in math)
Women typically have a larger deep limbic system than men (emotional portion)



There are numerous others in many regions of the body including pelvis shape, bone density, size and shape of digits, vo2 max, skeletal muscle distribution and make up.

The physical difference between men and women are so numerous volumes could be written about it and this has been done.

What has not been done is testing transgendered combat athletes to determine whether they have a measurable competitive advantage or even disadvantage.

Until then it is unreasonable to thing there is no difference given the volumes of scientific research demonstrating measureable physiologic differences.

Whenever there is the potential for an uneven playing field this creates a possible need for restrictions whether they are medications, recreational drugs or physical differences such as gender or weight class. If this were not the case we would have no substance restrictions, weight classes or gender divisions.



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