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5/19/13 1:54 PM
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Barbalos - If a Diaz had said this regarding weed, which is actually illegal, the UG would be slobbering all over his nuts. "WOW did you see that?! What a hero! He's so REAL!!1!"

But the current trend is to bash Vitor, so you stoned clowns will attack him for this.

Good for Vitor.
Smoking weed wouldn't give one fighter a distinct advantage over another. Now injecting testosterone, hmmm. Phone Post 3.0

Difference is one is against the rules, one is not. Vitor doesn't make the rules, and he is abiding by them.

And he has SOOOOO much to hide that he answered ALL these questions MULTIPLE TIMES...in public...in the media....leading right up to the fight.



....or maaaaaaybe he's just annoyed at having the same exact questions brought up YET AGAIN after he's spent the last month answering TRT questions. He's human. There comes a point where enough is enough and he's already answered this topic so it's not like he hasn't addressed this head on. John Morgan was a turd for dredging this up right after his win.




Was John Morgan question Hendo and Chael like this IMMEDIETLY following their wins ? Would they have been annoyed ?
5/19/13 1:56 PM
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WestCoastKid - If Vitor had nothing to hide then he wouldn't have come off so defensive imo

Bullshit.  If someone walked up to me and started accusing me of shit I'd tell him to get the fuck out of my face.

 

The media asks some pretty stupid questions to 'put you on the spot'.

 

Know what?  GTFO and talk to the hand asshole.  Next question please.

 

Right on Vitor.


Exactly....if some reporter sticks a mic in my face and asked an incredibly stupid question....he will get a stupid response and a smile.
5/19/13 2:00 PM
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stebrillz - Came across as a bit of a cunt IMO, if you have no problem having TRT have no problem answering questions about it Phone Post 3.0

Why should he have a problem using it if it's legal ?


Why should he have to answer an endless amount of questions about something that is legal and being used by so many other famous and beloved fighters ?



What makes you think Vitor should happily answer TRT questions freely and for the rest of his life if he's already spent months and months answering ALL questions and being forthcoming and the info is out there for everyone to read ?



At some point enough is enough and Vitor has a right to clam up after he already answered all questions and it's documented.


Maybe, JUUUUUUST maybe John Morgan should do his research as a journalist so as not to be redundant....unless he already knew Vitor answered ALL TRT question MORE THAN ONCE and he just wanted to be confrontational and annoying.



Certainly annoying and redundant....and you guys are whining because he got a bad reaction ?



BOO-HOO


Vitor should expect the TRT questions for as long as he has a TUE. It's controversial at best, injecting testosterone to keep at peak 20 year old levels when you're 40. It's a bullshit circumvention of the rules, needs to be abandoned. I don't give a fuck if that means vitor, Hendo, Marquardt, Mir, and anyone else is forced to retire.

Whether they have been prior steroid users, too much weight cutting, too many concussive events, or they only have one testicle that works. Phone Post 3.0
5/19/13 2:01 PM
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stebrillz - Came across as a bit of a cunt IMO, if you have no problem having TRT have no problem answering questions about it Phone Post 3.0

Why should he have a problem using it if it's legal ?


Why should he have to answer an endless amount of questions about something that is legal and being used by so many other famous and beloved fighters ?



What makes you think Vitor should happily answer TRT questions freely and for the rest of his life if he's already spent months and months answering ALL questions and being forthcoming and the info is out there for everyone to read ?



At some point enough is enough and Vitor has a right to clam up after he already answered all questions and it's documented.


Maybe, JUUUUUUST maybe John Morgan should do his research as a journalist so as not to be redundant....unless he already knew Vitor answered ALL TRT question MORE THAN ONCE and he just wanted to be confrontational and annoying.



Certainly annoying and redundant....and you guys are whining because he got a bad reaction ?



BOO-HOO



Reporters wouldn't be asking about it if there weren't controversy surrounding it. Bottomline. If he wants to stop being asked about it, a good first step would be to stop using.
5/19/13 2:02 PM
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Vitor white knights; he isn't going to pm you.
5/19/13 2:04 PM
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stebrillz - Came across as a bit of a cunt IMO, if you have no problem having TRT have no problem answering questions about it Phone Post 3.0

Why should he have a problem using it if it's legal ?


Why should he have to answer an endless amount of questions about something that is legal and being used by so many other famous and beloved fighters ?



What makes you think Vitor should happily answer TRT questions freely and for the rest of his life if he's already spent months and months answering ALL questions and being forthcoming and the info is out there for everyone to read ?



At some point enough is enough and Vitor has a right to clam up after he already answered all questions and it's documented.


Maybe, JUUUUUUST maybe John Morgan should do his research as a journalist so as not to be redundant....unless he already knew Vitor answered ALL TRT question MORE THAN ONCE and he just wanted to be confrontational and annoying.



Certainly annoying and redundant....and you guys are whining because he got a bad reaction ?



BOO-HOO



Reporters wouldn't be asking about it if there weren't controversy surrounding it. Bottomline. If he wants to stop being asked about it, a good first step would be to stop using.

Stupid. There will always be troll reporters asking the same questions over and over and over. GSP said the same thing, he gets sick of it. So should he stop fighting so he isn't bombarded with the same stupid repetitive questions forever? Bottomline, it isn't against the rules as of now, he's answered the questions a thousand times, and if he blows off ONE of those questions, it's not a big fucking deal.
5/19/13 2:05 PM
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Barbalos - If a Diaz had said this regarding weed, which is actually illegal, the UG would be slobbering all over his nuts. "WOW did you see that?! What a hero! He's so REAL!!1!"

But the current trend is to bash Vitor, so you stoned clowns will attack him for this.

Good for Vitor.
Smoking weed wouldn't give one fighter a distinct advantage over another. Now injecting testosterone, hmmm. Phone Post 3.0

Difference is one is against the rules, one is not. Vitor doesn't make the rules, and he is abiding by them.

And he has SOOOOO much to hide that he answered ALL these questions MULTIPLE TIMES...in public...in the media....leading right up to the fight.



....or maaaaaaybe he's just annoyed at having the same exact questions brought up YET AGAIN after he's spent the last month answering TRT questions. He's human. There comes a point where enough is enough and he's already answered this topic so it's not like he hasn't addressed this head on. John Morgan was a turd for dredging this up right after his win.




Was John Morgan question Hendo and Chael like this IMMEDIETLY following their wins ? Would they have been annoyed ?
If vitor has been keeping the test levels at normal ranges throughout camp, and presumably testing weekly/bi weekly to ensure the levels are within the normal range. Why not just release the test results and definitively prove he has no advantage from TRT. Phone Post 3.0
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Rory MacDonald's pretty funny about how straight up he is with it.

 

'I used to get mad at all the stupid questions and how many times I got asked the same thing, but I got used to it.'

 

Vitor is a little older wiser and shouldn't have to answer the same stupid contentious shit all the time.

 

 

Next question please.

5/19/13 2:07 PM
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This is just...oh man, my cheeks hurt. Phone Post 3.0
5/19/13 2:09 PM
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stebrillz - Came across as a bit of a cunt IMO, if you have no problem having TRT have no problem answering questions about it Phone Post 3.0

Why should he have a problem using it if it's legal ?


Why should he have to answer an endless amount of questions about something that is legal and being used by so many other famous and beloved fighters ?



What makes you think Vitor should happily answer TRT questions freely and for the rest of his life if he's already spent months and months answering ALL questions and being forthcoming and the info is out there for everyone to read ?



At some point enough is enough and Vitor has a right to clam up after he already answered all questions and it's documented.


Maybe, JUUUUUUST maybe John Morgan should do his research as a journalist so as not to be redundant....unless he already knew Vitor answered ALL TRT question MORE THAN ONCE and he just wanted to be confrontational and annoying.



Certainly annoying and redundant....and you guys are whining because he got a bad reaction ?



BOO-HOO



Reporters wouldn't be asking about it if there weren't controversy surrounding it. Bottomline. If he wants to stop being asked about it, a good first step would be to stop using.

Stupid. There will always be troll reporters asking the same questions over and over and over. GSP said the same thing, he gets sick of it. So should he stop fighting so he isn't bombarded with the same stupid repetitive questions forever? Bottomline, it isn't against the rules as of now, he's answered the questions a thousand times, and if he blows off ONE of those questions, it's not a big fucking deal.
GSP gets sick of repetitive questions, but still answers them.

Also this was at the post fight press conference, and it's a relative and controversial line of questioning. Phone Post 3.0
5/19/13 2:11 PM
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stebrillz - Came across as a bit of a cunt IMO, if you have no problem having TRT have no problem answering questions about it Phone Post 3.0

Why should he have a problem using it if it's legal ?


Why should he have to answer an endless amount of questions about something that is legal and being used by so many other famous and beloved fighters ?



What makes you think Vitor should happily answer TRT questions freely and for the rest of his life if he's already spent months and months answering ALL questions and being forthcoming and the info is out there for everyone to read ?



At some point enough is enough and Vitor has a right to clam up after he already answered all questions and it's documented.


Maybe, JUUUUUUST maybe John Morgan should do his research as a journalist so as not to be redundant....unless he already knew Vitor answered ALL TRT question MORE THAN ONCE and he just wanted to be confrontational and annoying.



Certainly annoying and redundant....and you guys are whining because he got a bad reaction ?



BOO-HOO



Reporters wouldn't be asking about it if there weren't controversy surrounding it. Bottomline. If he wants to stop being asked about it, a good first step would be to stop using.

Stupid. There will always be troll reporters asking the same questions over and over and over. GSP said the same thing, he gets sick of it. So should he stop fighting so he isn't bombarded with the same stupid repetitive questions forever? Bottomline, it isn't against the rules as of now, he's answered the questions a thousand times, and if he blows off ONE of those questions, it's not a big fucking deal.
GSP gets sick of repetitive questions, but still answers them.

Also this was at the post fight press conference, and it's a relative and controversial line of questioning. Phone Post 3.0

We've already had all the answers he's going to give. If he did answer like GSP does, he'd say the same shit he's already said. I'd get pretty sick of it too, especially the sense of entitlement from people like you.
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At least the shots were not to the back of the head. There is some positive.
5/19/13 2:15 PM
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stebrillz - Came across as a bit of a cunt IMO, if you have no problem having TRT have no problem answering questions about it Phone Post 3.0

Why should he have a problem using it if it's legal ?


Why should he have to answer an endless amount of questions about something that is legal and being used by so many other famous and beloved fighters ?



What makes you think Vitor should happily answer TRT questions freely and for the rest of his life if he's already spent months and months answering ALL questions and being forthcoming and the info is out there for everyone to read ?



At some point enough is enough and Vitor has a right to clam up after he already answered all questions and it's documented.


Maybe, JUUUUUUST maybe John Morgan should do his research as a journalist so as not to be redundant....unless he already knew Vitor answered ALL TRT question MORE THAN ONCE and he just wanted to be confrontational and annoying.



Certainly annoying and redundant....and you guys are whining because he got a bad reaction ?



BOO-HOO



Reporters wouldn't be asking about it if there weren't controversy surrounding it. Bottomline. If he wants to stop being asked about it, a good first step would be to stop using.

Stupid. There will always be troll reporters asking the same questions over and over and over. GSP said the same thing, he gets sick of it. So should he stop fighting so he isn't bombarded with the same stupid repetitive questions forever? Bottomline, it isn't against the rules as of now, he's answered the questions a thousand times, and if he blows off ONE of those questions, it's not a big fucking deal.

It's part of the job, sadly. He has chosen an industry where he is a public figure. He reaps rewards (think he would have been a Brazilian reality TV star without a UFC career?) and he also reaps the downsides. Like annoying questions.

I personally agree that blowing off one question is not a big deal, although asking for the reporter to be beat up isn't very nice. I would like to imagine he said it in an obviously joking manner that doesn't translate to text well.
5/19/13 2:19 PM
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^ @HexRei, you're right, it's not the ideal reaction from him, but he's not a red carpet hollywood star, he's a fighter. I'd get sick of the same questions 1000 times over too. You can find his responses to similar questions within 2 minutes, easily. People here complaining just have an axe to grind, not a valid objection to this one incident.
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Can't stop laughing at this.

btw Vitor is the next Middleweight Champion!
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It was one of those questions where he was just trying to provoke a reaction. Like Vitor was going to yes john this is how I cycle and avoid testing. Phone Post
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MMA Lives Here -  Jesus. Skarhead, orcus and Doomfarmer are absolute jokes. Are you all juicing? Are all you families heavily infested in juice or something? The vast majority of fans of this sport disagree with people juicing. You think you're shitty little opinions are going to change that? Dana needs to stick to his gunman and stop this shit before it makes a mockery of the sport. Vitor is out of his mind Phone Post

NFL is far more popular and the vast majority of fans who you claim to speak for have zero problems with the probable 99% of those players using PEDs. People do not care about it as much as you seem to think.

Mockery of the sport, LOL its reality and always will be. You cant stop these guys from taking every advantage to get to the top, and testing will always be beatable. You can no more stop guys from juicing than they can stop fans from streaming events over the internet.

Further, what Vitor is doing is legal and he should be given slack or even appreciated for his openness about it when so many othervfighters are doing the same thing in secret.

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They do get get the same questions and shit he does.

They don't get butthurt and evasive as fuck when asked about it though.

They never got popped for roids in the past.

They aren't annoying jesus freaks.

So now we really know at what point he became a piece of shit to you.

Thank you for your honesty.


Yeah when he started constantly claiming an ethos that he obviously does not live by.

I hate hypocrites.
Everyone in this world is a hypocrite.

You've never been one? Ever in your life?

Saint. Phone Post 3.0
5/19/13 3:25 PM
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raoullduke - And then the next question he got asked he started waxing lyrical about honesty and integrity.

Dude is a piece of shit. I've lost all respect for him.

It's legal, get the fuck over it.

He has the right to do it, however retarded that may be. But he has no right to get butthurt when people ask about it. It's at that point he becomes a total and complete piece of shit.

Also there is a difference between legal and moral.
But calling someone you never met a piece of shit and judging him for his personal choices just bleeds morality right. These athletes train their ass off the be remembered and to be talked shit about anonymously on message boards like this. And I'm sure he cares very little what we all say because we all are talking about him making his bank account bigger. Good for him, don't sit on your high horse acting like you wouldn't do the same the have that level of success in life. Phone Post 3.0
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They do get get the same questions and shit he does.

They don't get butthurt and evasive as fuck when asked about it though.

They never got popped for roids in the past.

They aren't annoying jesus freaks.

So now we really know at what point he became a piece of shit to you.

Thank you for your honesty.


Yeah when he started constantly claiming an ethos that he obviously does not live by.

I hate hypocrites.
Everyone in this world is a hypocrite.

You've never been one? Ever in your life?

Saint. Phone Post 3.0
Because anyone who does steroids or trt obviously does not believe in god and will go straight to hell. Phone Post 3.0
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MMA Lives Here - Jesus. Skarhead, orcus and Doomfarmer are absolute jokes. Are you all juicing? Are all you families heavily infested in juice or something? The vast majority of fans of this sport disagree with people juicing. You think you're shitty little opinions are going to change that? Dana needs to stick to his gunman and stop this shit before it makes a mockery of the sport. Vitor is out of his mind Phone Post
You're a joke, sissy.

Get your feminine sensibilities in order.

It's a differing opinion than yours, move along and stop being so goddamn upset.

There are more important issues in your life than this TRT issue, I would suspect.

It'll be ok, child. Phone Post 3.0
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Vitor's case is an interesting one. He's the first guy to be on TRT that:

1) was previously busted for steroid use
2) has had an exemption denied by NSAC, but went on TRT anyway

Whether it's true or not, Vitor's case *appears* to be one of a guy openly and blatantly abusing the TRT system. And I think that's why he attracts hate for it.

TRT is legal, true. But the question is, in the absence of athletic commission oversight, is Vitor really just on TRT - remember, the "R" stands for "replacement" - or is he just juiced to the gills and using TRT as his cover story?

With his prior bust for steroids, it's a legitimate question to ask.

Hell, it's a legitimate question to ask of anyone on TRT, really. But it seems particularly relevant when dealing with athletes who have pissed hot before.
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stebrillz - Came across as a bit of a cunt IMO, if you have no problem having TRT have no problem answering questions about it Phone Post 3.0

Why should he have a problem using it if it's legal ?


Why should he have to answer an endless amount of questions about something that is legal and being used by so many other famous and beloved fighters ?



What makes you think Vitor should happily answer TRT questions freely and for the rest of his life if he's already spent months and months answering ALL questions and being forthcoming and the info is out there for everyone to read ?



At some point enough is enough and Vitor has a right to clam up after he already answered all questions and it's documented.


Maybe, JUUUUUUST maybe John Morgan should do his research as a journalist so as not to be redundant....unless he already knew Vitor answered ALL TRT question MORE THAN ONCE and he just wanted to be confrontational and annoying.



Certainly annoying and redundant....and you guys are whining because he got a bad reaction ?



BOO-HOO


I've given my opinion I couldn't really give a fuck either way tbh it doesn't really mean that much to me but your points are valid and thanks for sharing Phone Post 3.0
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chawkins - Vitor's case is an interesting one. He's the first guy to be on TRT that:

1) was previously busted for steroid use
2) has had an exemption denied by NSAC, but went on TRT anyway

Whether it's true or not, Vitor's case *appears* to be one of a guy openly and blatantly abusing the TRT system. And I think that's why he attracts hate for it.

TRT is legal, true. But the question is, in the absence of athletic commission oversight, is Vitor really just on TRT - remember, the "R" stands for "replacement" - or is he just juiced to the gills and using TRT as his cover story?

With his prior bust for steroids, it's a legitimate question to ask.

Hell, it's a legitimate question to ask of anyone on TRT, really. But it seems particularly relevant when dealing with athletes who have pissed hot before.

It's a legitimate question to ask any MMA fighter if they are currently on steroids, given everything we've heard from those in the loop. Doesn't mean they have to answer you. And really, given what we've heard, the amount of people singling out Vitor is insane. Pretty naive to think he's one of few abusing PEDs if he is indeed doing so. Incredibly naive, actually.

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