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5/21/13 4:09 PM
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Ed Kapp
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AboveAndBeyondMMA.com: Were you expecting to be released?

Jacob Volkmann: No, no. I said in a few interviews that I did expect it, but I was just playing with the media. I had no idea.

AABMMA: How can a fighter go 6-2 and still be released?

JV: You tell me. Politics, my friend.

AABMMA: Are you at all bitter about how things worked out with the UFC?

JV: Very bitter. They always claim that they treat the fighters so well. Yeah, they treat the top five per cent of the fighters well — the ones that are on the main card all the time. They don’t treat the rest of them very well. The healthcare plan is horrible, with a $1,500 deductible per injury — the catastrophic-injury insurance is not even really good insurance. There’s no retirement fund, there’s no signing bonus. You start off at six-and-six, you’re really not making too much money because you’re self-employed, so you’re paying the self-employment tax and you’re paying the regular tax and income tax. So you’re paying twice as much in tax. They claim they’re treating the fighters well, but they’re not, realistically.

http://aboveandbeyondmma.com/?p=582

5/21/13 4:14 PM
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5/21/13 4:17 PM
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This could get interesting Phone Post 3.0
5/21/13 4:18 PM
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Well....Jacob on another mission again I see......

5/21/13 4:19 PM
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5/21/13 4:19 PM
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In early Phone Post 3.0
5/21/13 4:20 PM
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Thanks, Obama! Phone Post 3.0
5/21/13 4:21 PM
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On face value I hate his politics yet I support everything he just said.......

5/21/13 4:22 PM
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It's entertainment. If you're not entertaining you might get cut.
5/21/13 4:28 PM
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attjack - It's entertainment. If you're not entertaining you might get cut.
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5/21/13 4:28 PM
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Haadogei - i think it's ironic to be a staunch conservative and then complain about your rights as a worker in our free market society.

If you don't like what an employer is offering you, go work somewhere else. That's the free market. That's the whole cornerstone of conservative ideas. He is being a hypocrite.
Well, it sucks but I agree. Fighting in any show is a choice. Phone Post 3.0
5/21/13 4:28 PM
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5/21/13 4:31 PM
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Haadogei - i think it's ironic to be a staunch conservative and then complain about your rights as a worker in our free market society.

If you don't like what an employer is offering you, go work somewhere else. That's the free market. That's the whole cornerstone of conservative ideas. He is being a hypocrite.

No more hypocritical than it is to back a companies' ability to hire whoever they want but then get pissy when they suspend someone for calling people f*ggot, lol

5/21/13 4:32 PM
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UG News:  Volkmann bitter over conservative policies, wants universal MMA healthcare

5/21/13 4:33 PM
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5/21/13 4:33 PM
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He is looking for attention.
5/21/13 4:35 PM
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obamacare, bro. jesus you gotta spell everything out for this guy
5/21/13 4:36 PM
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I'm starting to change my view on fighters' pay.

The UFC's mindset seems to be that when a fighter makes it to the UFC, they've made it to the "show," and all other organizations are merely feeder systems or the "minors." If that's the case, then any fighter who makes it to a UFC card should feel they've achieved something special, and with that, should be compensated accordingly. Base pay should be much more than competing organizations, and more than 6/6.
5/21/13 4:37 PM
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So he says the UFC treated him and those below the top guys like shit. Yet hes bitter he was released?
5/21/13 4:38 PM
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UG News:  Volkmann bitter over conservative policies, wants universal MMA healthcare


legit lol over here.
5/21/13 4:39 PM
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Haadogei - i think it's ironic to be a staunch conservative and then complain about your rights as a worker in our free market society.

If you don't like what an employer is offering you, go work somewhere else. That's the free market. That's the whole cornerstone of conservative ideas. He is being a hypocrite.

Well said.
5/21/13 4:43 PM
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The UFC will undoubtedly have a union at some point, there's no way around it! Every major sports org has one and I am not a fan of unions in general but in the case if pro athletes its needed! Phone Post 3.0
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The UFC has no incentive to treat fighters any better.  It's not like exposing the UFC in interviews is going to hurt ticket sales.  The benevolent spirit of the free market can't help people in Volkmann's position.  The only sure solution is something like government regulation.  Maybe unionization would work, maybe not.  Volkmann can't support either one so he's stuck just voicing his disappointment, but all that will do is burn a bridge for him, it won't change anything.

5/21/13 4:44 PM
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5/21/13 4:53 PM
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He made $6,000/$6,000?! Georges St. Pierre only makes $3,000 to show and $3,000 to win.

Oh. No. Wait, that is what GSP made at UFC 46. Now he makes ~$5 million per fight. Because he pleased his bosses and became the very best at what he does.

The UFC will allow you to make a lot of money if you prove to them you're worth it.

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