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5/31/13 1:38 PM
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Rua: I started training with Freddie Roach because my manager contacted him and his team. For me this is good because I learned some things that can make the difference against Rogerio Nogueira.

I was always confident in my boxing. In camp, I always train a lot of boxing. But Freddie showed me specific details that will help me improve my game.

I am going to go back to Brazil and keep practicing what I learned and hope to apply it to the fight.

He is a south paw and that already makes him harder to deal with. Nogueira is a guy that likes to setup his jab to throw his left hand. I know this and I am going to be prepared when we step inside the Octagon.


5/31/13 1:40 PM
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Hope Rua does well with Mr Roach!
5/31/13 1:42 PM
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I really hope we see an improved Rua at this stage of the game!  Rua 2.0? or 3.0?  or v2.5.2?

5/31/13 1:52 PM
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I would also like to hear "Rua training cardio with..."

5/31/13 3:43 PM
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be interesting to see if he fights more from the inside with this new boxing. roach was talking about a 6 inch hook.

shogun has always had those looping lunging hooks that he landed from way out at kicking range and then throw huge leg strikes. you can see him winding up a kick after that punch that ko'd chuck.

5/31/13 5:45 PM
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Big Pookie - I would also like to hear "Rua training cardio with..."


I think this is the crucial element that's missing. I also find that Shogun just doesn't have that fucking destroyer mentality anymore, he's always flat-footed, gassed and hesitating now. It's disappointing to see.

Also, why aren't we seeing Shogun throwing knees as much anymore? It seems like he and Wand both gave up on knees after coming over from PRIDE, is this an issue with the level of wrestling in the UFC or something?
5/31/13 5:51 PM
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Big Pookie - I would also like to hear "Rua training cardio with..."

So much this. It doesn't matter how much improved his striking has gotten if he gasses halfway through the second round. Phone Post
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hopefully rua doesn't turn out like arlovski lol
5/31/13 5:55 PM
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MagSlim - be interesting to see if he fights more from the inside with this new boxing. roach was talking about a 6 inch hook.

shogun has always had those looping lunging hooks that he landed from way out at kicking range and then throw huge leg strikes. you can see him winding up a kick after that punch that ko'd chuck.

Yeah it's the same motions he was using against Lyoto the first time. Phone Post 3.0
If he looks anything like he did in that fight, I will be fucking amazed. Phone Post 3.0
5/31/13 7:07 PM
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Big Pookie - I would also like to hear "Rua training cardio with..."

Apparently roach was working on that with him too. Phone Post 3.0
5/31/13 8:34 PM
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Joshua King - I want to hear him address the "hits like a girl" comment and lyotos response to that as well. Phone Post 3.0

What comment are you referring to?
5/31/13 9:33 PM
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maybe im getting the wrong impression but it seems to me that Shogun has been a part time fighter in the last years. you hear about him training in the time leading up to his fights but he's doing most of his training in his home town and we dont hear about him often training at other camps.

im sure he's taking the fight with rogerio seriously but he probably had like a week or two with freddie and you only hear about things like that when the fight is around the corner. compare to jose aldo who is in Holland now training for his fight in August in addition to what he's doing at Nova União

maybe he wants to also enjoy life which you can't hold against him. GSP is always talking about how it's necessary to put his life on hold to be champ
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He needs better cardio, first and foremost. Especially at this stage in his career.

5/31/13 10:05 PM
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I always enjoy hearing guys, who are as experienced as Shogun, branch out and try to learn new techniques and strategies to add to their arsenal.
5/31/13 10:07 PM
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Lil Nog wins by UD

5/31/13 11:46 PM
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Joshua King - I want to hear him address the "hits like a girl" comment and lyotos response to that as well. Phone Post 3.0

What comment are you referring to?

Freddie Roach after training with Rua for a bit said when he first started working with Shogun he hit like a girl and went on to say something along the lines of now he's got some pretty damn good power.
6/1/13 2:54 AM
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Big Pookie - I would also like to hear "Rua training cardio with..."


I think this is the crucial element that's missing. I also find that Shogun just doesn't have that fucking destroyer mentality anymore, he's always flat-footed, gassed and hesitating now. It's disappointing to see.

Also, why aren't we seeing Shogun throwing knees as much anymore? It seems like he and Wand both gave up on knees after coming over from PRIDE, is this an issue with the level of wrestling in the UFC or something?

shogun having knee surgery might have to do with being flatfooted/poor cardio/less throwing of knees right?
6/1/13 3:40 AM
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I don't care how much cardio you have it can be beat out of you if you take too much damage.

Which is exactly what's been happening to Rua. Phone Post
6/1/13 3:42 AM
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Get Shogun on trt, that guy would be deadly. Phone Post 3.0
6/1/13 5:45 AM
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Every MMA fighter Roach trained has been KOed.
6/1/13 5:57 AM
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ImStillHereChief - Every MMA fighter Roach trained has been KOed.

Doesn't he work with GSP?
6/1/13 6:07 AM
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Devlin -
ImStillHereChief - Every MMA fighter Roach trained has been KOed.

Doesn't he work with GSP?
He's also worked with Anderson... Phone Post 3.0
6/1/13 6:08 AM
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ImStillHereChief - Every MMA fighter Roach trained has been KOed.

Doesn't he work with GSP?
He's also worked with Anderson... Phone Post 3.0
and BJ who's never been knocked down let alone KOed Phone Post 3.0
6/1/13 8:32 AM
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Meh. Shogun's boxing has never been technically sound but as far as power goes he always had it. A bit of bullshit coming from Roach on this one.

Since Shogun's kicking ability has been destroyed by the knee surgeries, getting a more technical boxing game from Freddy is gonna help him a lot though.

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