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Roy Nelson is a Renzo Gracie black belt in Jiu-Jitsu with knockout power and tremendous wrestling, on a three fight win streak in a division that is notably brutal to stay on top of. And he doesn't get along with his boss.

UFC president Dana White has sarcastically referred to Nelson as "smartest guy on earth."

In return, Nelson now sells t-shirts with the slogan on them.

So is Nelson trying to built an anti-hero image, in the vein of Tito Ortiz?

"He's not doing that," White told Yahoo Sport's Kevin Iole. "He's not. It's nothing he's thought about and is intentionally trying to do. He's not that smart. Let's be honest. He's just not a smart guy. He's just that guy who is irritating. He thinks he's smart, but he's an absolute pain in the ass.

"He jumped up on the Octagon [after beating Kimbo Slice] and said to me, 'Go get me a Whopper,' as if Burger King or McDonald's would ever want to have a guy who looks like that endorsing product. He think's he's funny, but to me, he's an idiot."

As UFC fighters are independent contractors, not employees of ZUFFA, Nelson sees himself, not White, as the boss.

"In a sport like baseball, there are a few players who will stand up, but they do it in, what I guess I'd say, is a politically correct way," said Nelson. "They definitely can get their point across through the media. You have to remember that they're also employees. There's a big difference when you're an employee.

"When you work for yourself, the whole point of working for yourself is that you're the boss. Some people don't understand the sports business. In this business, as an athlete, you're a commodity. If you're a bartender, you can't say certain things because there are a lot of bartenders out there and you could be replaced. It's not hard to replace a bartender. If there was another Roy Nelson, OK, but there is not and so it's harder to replace the athlete. We're not a dime a dozen. Very few people can do what we can do. Very few."

Does the feud between the two mean it will be harder for Nelson to get a title shot?

"Roy loves to say I'll never give him a title shot," said White. "But dude, beat someone and then I'll give you the shot. Roy is knocking off these guys ranked six through 10, but when he gets to fighting the top five guys, he can't do the same thing. You're not going to get a title shot for beating No. 6 and No. 8. You have to beat the top guys."

"Everyone knows how I feel about Roy, and everyone remembers how I felt about Tito. But I never prevented any fight for Tito from happening. If he goes out there and beats the guys ranked head of him, then yeah, he'll get one. But he's not going to get one just by talking about it and doing whatever the hell he is trying to do. He's going to have to fight for it, just like everyone else."

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Roy Nelson fights Stipe Miocic on June 15 at UFC 161 in Winnipeg. Miocic is not in the top 10.
Champion : Cain Velasquez
1     Junior dos Santos
2     Daniel Cormier
3     Fabricio Werdum
4     Antonio Silva
5     Roy Nelson
6     Alistair Overeem
7     Frank Mir
8     Minotauro Nogueira
9     Travis Browne
10     Mark Hunt


6/1/13 11:44 AM
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"He's going to have to fight for it, just like everyone else."

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Roy is a funny guy. Dana just needs to lighten up.

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GSPushedInMyStinkEye - "He's going to have to fight for it, just like everyone else."

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6/1/13 11:52 AM
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6/1/13 11:54 AM
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All I know is that every time Roy faced a top contender the result is the same...LOST.
6/1/13 11:56 AM
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Dana should loosen that sphincter of his.
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How many times have we seen fighters coming off a loss get a title shot this year alone? 4

 

Kind of not in keeping with the point Mr. White is trying to make.

 

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Dana White is full of shit. Phone Post
6/1/13 12:08 PM
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I would think Roy is the kind of fighter Dana wants, dude always takes fights on short notice, shows up to fight. Phone Post 3.0
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Roy should fight Overeem
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attn Dana:

if you want to get rid of Roy... please match him up with Hunto

you're welcome. :)
6/1/13 12:09 PM
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If the problem is him fighting #6 and #8 instead of Top 5, why are you giving him someone who isn't even Top 10 next?

Stupid logic is stupid. Phone Post 3.0
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How many times have we seen fighters coming off a loss get a title shot this year alone? 4

 

Kind of not in keeping with the point Mr. White is trying to make.

 


Who got a shot coming off a loss this year in the HW division?

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GSPushedInMyStinkEye - "He's going to have to fight for it, just like everyone else."

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Chael beat top guys tho n he always brings the fight, Roy is a strong fighter n hard to finish but he's gotta beat someone in the top 10
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this is what is so fucken annoying about dana, these stupid girlish problems he has with certain fighters and even though these certain fighters have tonnes of fans, it doesnt matter becasue dana doesnt like them and he will make their jobs alot harder then it should be, every fighter should be treated equal
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How many times have we seen fighters coming off a loss get a title shot this year alone? 4

 

Kind of not in keeping with the point Mr. White is trying to make.

 


Who got a shot coming off a loss this year in the HW division?

There are other weight classes? Phone Post 3.0
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How many times have we seen fighters coming off a loss get a title shot this year alone? 4

 

Kind of not in keeping with the point Mr. White is trying to make.

 


Who got a shot coming off a loss this year in the HW division?


is Dana only the president of the UFC HW division?


This. Ya beat me to it. My point was that he is setting an odd example with title fights for 4 people coming off losses this year alone. He makes a fight for Roy with a guy that's not in the Top 10, despite the fact that Roy is on a 3 fight streak and all are by KO. If Alistair and Roy's positions were reversed, Alistair would already be fighting Cain.

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Do you think his more recent frustration with Roy is that he has put himself (Roy) into a potentially strong position of leverage contractually? His contract is up after his next fight, and if he wins that will be 4 in a row, he'll be do for a raise and be in a position to ask for good money. Phone Post 3.0
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Dana is scared the champ might just get ktfo by a lucky Roy Nelson punch. He will never get a shot Phone Post 3.0
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Roy has zero wins in the current top 10... he only has losses.

He lost to Mir, Werdum and JDS.

So every fight that was given to him in the top 10 he lost.
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MMALOGIC - Roy has zero wins in the current top 10... he only has losses.

He lost to Mir, Werdum and JDS.

So every fight that was given to him in the top 10 he lost.

incorrect.

Which top ten did he beat? Can't remember any in the current list losing to him? Phone Post 3.0
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Roy does NOT deserve a title shot. Dfw is 100 percent correct here. Roy got beat by mir, dominated by werdum and jds. He cant or hasnt beat the top guys yet. Phone Post 3.0
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GSPushedInMyStinkEye - "He's going to have to fight for it, just like everyone else."

Chael? Phone Post 3.0
First person I thought of when I read that. Dana is full of shit, but he's a promoter so you can't expect anything more. Phone Post
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Vader03 - Roy does NOT deserve a title shot. Dfw is 100 percent correct here. Roy got beat by mir, dominated by werdum and jds. He cant or hasnt beat the top guys yet. Phone Post 3.0
Chael Sonnen...your argument holds no weight. Phone Post

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