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Dana Stern -  Fedor was great and amazing to watch, but he fought a shitload of cans, as well as some tough fighters, and when he should and could have been fighting the best guys in the world as often as possible he and his management chose to take on far less dangerous road that backfired. I like Fedor but the truth is the truth. Anderson fought in the toughest org against the toughest guys available in 2 weight classes and I hate Anderson. Phone Post

 

New fans don't understand, when you become champion, and successfully defend your title, you normally fight your toughest challengers first, and then you fight obviously lower competition. This goes for all greats, Fedor, GSP, Anderson, Jon Jones.....

 

 

I challenge you, or anyone, to make a list of every opponent you think Fedor should have fought, and the time frame in which Fedor should have fought him. 


i give lists all the time of LEGIT fighters fedor passed over to fight cans and freak matches. bottom line is fedor delusionists will always make excuses for him not fighting the best available challengers every time out. guys with 1,2,3,4 mma wins NEVER have any business surpassing legit fighters. who do you think had a better chance of beating fedor or giving him a real fight:hmc,zulu,lindland or barnett,kharitonov,ricco? coleman didn't do anything to earn a 2nd shot at fedor other than being older,known to the general U.S.mma fan and POSING NO THREAT.

When do you claim Fedor avoided Barnett? Same goes for Kharitonov and Ricco. When, as in what time frame, do you think Fedor should have fought those guys?

 

 

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Dana Stern -  Fedor was great and amazing to watch, but he fought a shitload of cans, as well as some tough fighters, and when he should and could have been fighting the best guys in the world as often as possible he and his management chose to take on far less dangerous road that backfired. I like Fedor but the truth is the truth. Anderson fought in the toughest org against the toughest guys available in 2 weight classes and I hate Anderson. Phone Post

 

New fans don't understand, when you become champion, and successfully defend your title, you normally fight your toughest challengers first, and then you fight obviously lower competition. This goes for all greats, Fedor, GSP, Anderson, Jon Jones.....

 

 

I challenge you, or anyone, to make a list of every opponent you think Fedor should have fought, and the time frame in which Fedor should have fought him. 


i give lists all the time of LEGIT fighters fedor passed over to fight cans and freak matches. bottom line is fedor delusionists will always make excuses for him not fighting the best available challengers every time out. guys with 1,2,3,4 mma wins NEVER have any business surpassing legit fighters. who do you think had a better chance of beating fedor or giving him a real fight:hmc,zulu,lindland or barnett,kharitonov,ricco? coleman didn't do anything to earn a 2nd shot at fedor other than being older,known to the general U.S.mma fan and POSING NO THREAT.

Fucking idiot trolls like you make me sick.

A 44 year old Mark Coleman WORKED OVER a juiced up 32 year old Stephan Bonnar. You should watch your mouth when you say "poses no threat" because, quite frankly, a loser who has never trained like yourself and has delusions that they have some sort of analytical mind really is in no position to evaluate anything because you possess not the brains nor the experience to understand what you are watching.

7/10/13 11:43 AM
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7/10/13 12:23 PM
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Dana Stern -  Fedor was great and amazing to watch, but he fought a shitload of cans, as well as some tough fighters, and when he should and could have been fighting the best guys in the world as often as possible he and his management chose to take on far less dangerous road that backfired. I like Fedor but the truth is the truth. Anderson fought in the toughest org against the toughest guys available in 2 weight classes and I hate Anderson. Phone Post

 

New fans don't understand, when you become champion, and successfully defend your title, you normally fight your toughest challengers first, and then you fight obviously lower competition. This goes for all greats, Fedor, GSP, Anderson, Jon Jones.....

 

 

I challenge you, or anyone, to make a list of every opponent you think Fedor should have fought, and the time frame in which Fedor should have fought him. 


i give lists all the time of LEGIT fighters fedor passed over to fight cans and freak matches. bottom line is fedor delusionists will always make excuses for him not fighting the best available challengers every time out. guys with 1,2,3,4 mma wins NEVER have any business surpassing legit fighters. who do you think had a better chance of beating fedor or giving him a real fight:hmc,zulu,lindland or barnett,kharitonov,ricco? coleman didn't do anything to earn a 2nd shot at fedor other than being older,known to the general U.S.mma fan and POSING NO THREAT.

Fucking idiot trolls like you make me sick.

A 44 year old Mark Coleman WORKED OVER a juiced up 32 year old Stephan Bonnar. You should watch your mouth when you say "poses no threat" because, quite frankly, a loser who has never trained like yourself and has delusions that they have some sort of analytical mind really is in no position to evaluate anything because you possess not the brains nor the experience to understand what you are watching.


did you just compare Stephan Bonner to FEDOR!?!? and you want to call someone delusional...and lol @ me not training. tell me exactly what's YOUR training background? or mma expertise?

You don't know that Fedor passed up those fights. You are basically saying that it's Fedors fault he didn't fight Barnett, but, when Barnett has the chance to fight Fedor, Josh failed the fucking drug test.

So...
7/10/13 12:36 PM
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Dana Stern -  Fedor was great and amazing to watch, but he fought a shitload of cans, as well as some tough fighters, and when he should and could have been fighting the best guys in the world as often as possible he and his management chose to take on far less dangerous road that backfired. I like Fedor but the truth is the truth. Anderson fought in the toughest org against the toughest guys available in 2 weight classes and I hate Anderson. Phone Post

 

New fans don't understand, when you become champion, and successfully defend your title, you normally fight your toughest challengers first, and then you fight obviously lower competition. This goes for all greats, Fedor, GSP, Anderson, Jon Jones.....

 

 

I challenge you, or anyone, to make a list of every opponent you think Fedor should have fought, and the time frame in which Fedor should have fought him. 


i give lists all the time of LEGIT fighters fedor passed over to fight cans and freak matches. bottom line is fedor delusionists will always make excuses for him not fighting the best available challengers every time out. guys with 1,2,3,4 mma wins NEVER have any business surpassing legit fighters. who do you think had a better chance of beating fedor or giving him a real fight:hmc,zulu,lindland or barnett,kharitonov,ricco? coleman didn't do anything to earn a 2nd shot at fedor other than being older,known to the general U.S.mma fan and POSING NO THREAT.

Fucking idiot trolls like you make me sick.

A 44 year old Mark Coleman WORKED OVER a juiced up 32 year old Stephan Bonnar. You should watch your mouth when you say "poses no threat" because, quite frankly, a loser who has never trained like yourself and has delusions that they have some sort of analytical mind really is in no position to evaluate anything because you possess not the brains nor the experience to understand what you are watching.


did you just compare Stephan Bonner to FEDOR!?!? and you want to call someone delusional...and lol @ me not training. tell me exactly what's YOUR training background? or mma expertise?

You don't know that Fedor passed up those fights. You are basically saying that it's Fedors fault he didn't fight Barnett, but, when Barnett has the chance to fight Fedor, Josh failed the fucking drug test.

So...

you picked 1 guy. what about the others? why all the cans when he could have been fighting legit hw's?

You mean I picked one guy out of the multiple that you ASSUME Fedor ducked? Yea, that's right, I picked one guy as an EXAMPLE of how you don't know shit, don't have any inside information on the subject, clearly don't know anything about MMA and it's inner workings, and are basically just making statements out your ass for the sake of arguing.

How about you back up your assertion that Fedor ducked those opponents by providing this little thing called "Evidence"? You know, that thing you should have before you make statements claiming something is true?
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That is not a fact at all. That seems like another one of those statements similar to the one you made just a couple posts back where you talk out your ass. Phone Post
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Chris's Weidman in Tom O'Butthole -  That is not a fact at all. That seems like another one of those statements similar to the one you made just a couple posts back where you talk out your ass. Phone Post

explain how it's not a fact. explain how hong man choi,lindland,zulu,coleman,tk were legit contenders.

also explain how those fighters were better contenders than kharitonov,barnett,ricco...

It's not a fact that Fedor chose not to fight those people. I know it's not a fact because you still haven't produced any evidence to back up your claim.

And, that is because you are talking out your ass trying to bash a man who would read this entire thread and still show you respect.

Because you're an idiot.
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Fierce Dragon aka omega2013-

 

is asked to name fighters and time frames of when Fedor "ducked" them, proceeds to not list timeframes but still makes claims out his butt.

7/10/13 6:26 PM
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by the way, fierce dragon aka angry at Fedor and his fans for some weird reason.....you do not understand the premise of this thread. There are several other "goat" threads, this is not the right thread for you to disrespect/discredit Fedor.

 

i know comprehension is a struggle for you, but I hope you understand what I'm saying.

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Omega, I guess if that's what you take from "It's not a fact..." then I can't help you.

You just keep talking out your ass without evidence and I'll sit here and ask you for a source and eventually you'll get tired of being an uninformed douche and will leave the thread.
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Chris's Weidman in Tom O'Butthole -  That is not a fact at all. That seems like another one of those statements similar to the one you made just a couple posts back where you talk out your ass. Phone Post

explain how it's not a fact. explain how hong man choi,lindland,zulu,coleman,tk were legit contenders.

also explain how those fighters were better contenders than kharitonov,barnett,ricco...

It's not a fact that Fedor chose not to fight those people. I know it's not a fact because you still haven't produced any evidence to back up your claim.

And, that is because you are talking out your ass trying to bash a man who would read this entire thread and still show you respect.

Because you're an idiot.
So it is a fact he chose to fight cans? That's enough... Phone Post
At least he beat the can's, 4-7-1 takase submitted Anderson.

Not hating on either but fedor beat everyone until his fall. Phone Post
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Chris's Weidman in Tom O'Butthole -  That is not a fact at all. That seems like another one of those statements similar to the one you made just a couple posts back where you talk out your ass. Phone Post

explain how it's not a fact. explain how hong man choi,lindland,zulu,coleman,tk were legit contenders.

also explain how those fighters were better contenders than kharitonov,barnett,ricco...

It's not a fact that Fedor chose not to fight those people. I know it's not a fact because you still haven't produced any evidence to back up your claim.

And, that is because you are talking out your ass trying to bash a man who would read this entire thread and still show you respect.

Because you're an idiot.
So it is a fact he chose to fight cans? That's enough... Phone Post

he fought some cans inbetween 3-5 fights a year. If anderson or GSP fought 2 extra cans on year on top of a couple legit challengers you tards would be swingin all over those nuts, HARD! LOOK How great they are you guys would say.

But Fedor fights FIVE fights a year twice in prime and let me get this straight now, ALL TEN were supposed to be top 5 fighters? when GSP Fights once, MAYBE Twice a year?

2000 5 fights
2001 5 fights
2002 3 fights
2003 5 Fights
2004 5 fights
2005 3 fights

then he slowed down to the Anderson/GSP schedule

2006 2 fights
2007 2 fights
2008 1 fight
2009 1 fight
2010 2 fights
2011 4 fights
2012 1 fight

and you talk out your ass btw. get your facts straight. other than the Affliction card Barnett fucked up, he was asked TWICE by Pride to fight Fedor and BOTH times played the we are friends card and its gonna have to be for some big money. and Pride wasnt willing to give him the price he wanted seeing how he just lost to the other two top HW's, one of them 3 times.

Ricco lost 3 in row to Sylvia, Nog & Rizzo. (should have won the nog fight) in 2003, and Pride didnt sign this major threat to Fedor on a 3 fight loss streak. he didnt do shit in 04, but lost to Waterman in 05 when you say Fedor should have fought him. and has not done anything significant since.

Would love to have seen Fedor vs Kharitonov, but it didnt happen. he lost to Nog in the tourney and they were teamates for awhile. have an interview from fightsport mag asking him if he wants to fight Fedor he said the opporntunity would be nice, but they are training partners now so its not his top goal at the moment.

and as far as ducking UFC, funny if Dana agreed to put M1 on the octagon and commercials like SF did, he would have been there in a second fighting whoever they wanted. M1 wanted more worldwide Exposure and was using Fedor's leverage for it and it backfired bigtime. no ducking though.

Japan LOVES Freahshow fights and NYE was the big time for them. so he was matched with some freakshows for them, but usually already fought his top 2-3 challengers for the year already anyway. these were bonus fights most of the time.

Learn some mma history before you run your mouth.
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Chris's Weidman in Tom O'Butthole -  That is not a fact at all. That seems like another one of those statements similar to the one you made just a couple posts back where you talk out your ass. Phone Post

explain how it's not a fact. explain how hong man choi,lindland,zulu,coleman,tk were legit contenders.

also explain how those fighters were better contenders than kharitonov,barnett,ricco...

It's not a fact that Fedor chose not to fight those people. I know it's not a fact because you still haven't produced any evidence to back up your claim.

And, that is because you are talking out your ass trying to bash a man who would read this entire thread and still show you respect.

Because you're an idiot.
So it is a fact he chose to fight cans? That's enough... Phone Post

he fought some cans inbetween 3-5 fights a year. If anderson or GSP fought 2 extra cans on year on top of a couple legit challengers you tards would be swingin all over those nuts, HARD! LOOK How great they are you guys would say.

But Fedor fights FIVE fights a year twice in prime and let me get this straight now, ALL TEN were supposed to be top 5 fighters? when GSP Fights once, MAYBE Twice a year?

2000 5 fights
2001 5 fights
2002 3 fights
2003 5 Fights
2004 5 fights
2005 3 fights

then he slowed down to the Anderson/GSP schedule

2006 2 fights
2007 2 fights
2008 1 fight
2009 1 fight
2010 2 fights
2011 4 fights
2012 1 fight

and you talk out your ass btw. get your facts straight. other than the Affliction card Barnett fucked up, he was asked TWICE by Pride to fight Fedor and BOTH times played the we are friends card and its gonna have to be for some big money. and Pride wasnt willing to give him the price he wanted seeing how he just lost to the other two top HW's, one of them 3 times.

Ricco lost 3 in row to Sylvia, Nog & Rizzo. (should have won the nog fight) in 2003, and Pride didnt sign this major threat to Fedor on a 3 fight loss streak. he didnt do shit in 04, but lost to Waterman in 05 when you say Fedor should have fought him. and has not done anything significant since.

Would love to have seen Fedor vs Kharitonov, but it didnt happen. he lost to Nog in the tourney and they were teamates for awhile. have an interview from fightsport mag asking him if he wants to fight Fedor he said the opporntunity would be nice, but they are training partners now so its not his top goal at the moment.

and as far as ducking UFC, funny if Dana agreed to put M1 on the octagon and commercials like SF did, he would have been there in a second fighting whoever they wanted. M1 wanted more worldwide Exposure and was using Fedor's leverage for it and it backfired bigtime. no ducking though.

Japan LOVES Freahshow fights and NYE was the big time for them. so he was matched with some freakshows for them, but usually already fought his top 2-3 challengers for the year already anyway. these were bonus fights most of the time.

Learn some mma history before you run your mouth.

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Chris's Weidman in Tom O'Butthole -  That is not a fact at all. That seems like another one of those statements similar to the one you made just a couple posts back where you talk out your ass. Phone Post

explain how it's not a fact. explain how hong man choi,lindland,zulu,coleman,tk were legit contenders.

also explain how those fighters were better contenders than kharitonov,barnett,ricco...

It's not a fact that Fedor chose not to fight those people. I know it's not a fact because you still haven't produced any evidence to back up your claim.

And, that is because you are talking out your ass trying to bash a man who would read this entire thread and still show you respect.

Because you're an idiot.
So it is a fact he chose to fight cans? That's enough... Phone Post

he fought some cans inbetween 3-5 fights a year. If anderson or GSP fought 2 extra cans on year on top of a couple legit challengers you tards would be swingin all over those nuts, HARD! LOOK How great they are you guys would say.

But Fedor fights FIVE fights a year twice in prime and let me get this straight now, ALL TEN were supposed to be top 5 fighters? when GSP Fights once, MAYBE Twice a year?

2000 5 fights
2001 5 fights
2002 3 fights
2003 5 Fights
2004 5 fights
2005 3 fights

then he slowed down to the Anderson/GSP schedule

2006 2 fights
2007 2 fights
2008 1 fight
2009 1 fight
2010 2 fights
2011 4 fights
2012 1 fight

and you talk out your ass btw. get your facts straight. other than the Affliction card Barnett fucked up, he was asked TWICE by Pride to fight Fedor and BOTH times played the we are friends card and its gonna have to be for some big money. and Pride wasnt willing to give him the price he wanted seeing how he just lost to the other two top HW's, one of them 3 times.

Ricco lost 3 in row to Sylvia, Nog & Rizzo. (should have won the nog fight) in 2003, and Pride didnt sign this major threat to Fedor on a 3 fight loss streak. he didnt do shit in 04, but lost to Waterman in 05 when you say Fedor should have fought him. and has not done anything significant since.

Would love to have seen Fedor vs Kharitonov, but it didnt happen. he lost to Nog in the tourney and they were teamates for awhile. have an interview from fightsport mag asking him if he wants to fight Fedor he said the opporntunity would be nice, but they are training partners now so its not his top goal at the moment.

and as far as ducking UFC, funny if Dana agreed to put M1 on the octagon and commercials like SF did, he would have been there in a second fighting whoever they wanted. M1 wanted more worldwide Exposure and was using Fedor's leverage for it and it backfired bigtime. no ducking though.

Japan LOVES Freahshow fights and NYE was the big time for them. so he was matched with some freakshows for them, but usually already fought his top 2-3 challengers for the year already anyway. these were bonus fights most of the time.

Learn some mma history before you run your mouth.
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HELWIG -

Purposely avoided fighting his opponent and stunk up the joint.

Threw jabs for 25 minutes to avoid any risk to himself.

Married a professional sex worker.

Tested positive for a banned substance.

Got unearned title shots by talking shit.

Cut weight to face smaller guys.

Had kids out of wedlock and then left them to be raised by their mother.

Got his ass beat and then complained about the opponent's style or the judge's decision.

Had a "twitter war".

Gave away his image rights for life.

Dyed his hair and got tattoos to be "EXTREME!1".

Tapped to strikes.

Caved to the will of any promoter, matchmaker, or figure.

 

 

 

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but!... but!... anderson is soooo humble and i can say he is the GOAT because they never fought nor will they and they are in a different wheight class so you cant disprove me and it doesnt matter that anderson lost in MMA before the UFC whaaaaa!

HELWIG gettin VU when i can.
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It's unbeleivable to consider what Fedor did in mma when there was open weight classes above 265 pounds, he fought 3-5 times a year multiple times consecutively.

 

Imagine his run in today's online social networking society. TMZ would have interviewed him. Sportscenter would do a 30/30 on him.  I am very thankful to have seen mma unfold from it's early days till current, to witness someone as great as Fedor.

There was one main catch reason to watch the ORIGINAL UFC. Who is the baddest of the baddest dudes? I wanted to find out who the best fighter in the world was.

 

By the time Fedor was fighting for the championship, the landscape had already unfolded to where the baddest dude, was hands down Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira.  There was nobody he would have been an underdog against at the time he faced Fedor. When Fedor beat Big Nog, I knew he had the crown.

 

What he did after that, cemented with zero doubt, that he, Fedor, was absolutely, the baddest mother fucker to ever walk this earth. The path was laid out, he walked it, and went down further than any man has ever gone.

                                                       Fedor Emelianenko=Greatest of All Time

                                                             

 

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Chris's Weidman in Tom O'Butthole - That is not a fact at all. That seems like another one of those statements similar to the one you made just a couple posts back where you talk out your ass. Phone Post
LOL. We're talking about Fiercedragon here. The guy who said Big Nog beat Overeem, Sakuraba was never the top ranked LHW, Fedor ducked Gilbert fucking Yvel, Randleman won the 2000 GP, and said Brock beat Nog (via "indirect win").

Talking out if his ass is what he does.

Back to the topic at hand. I would have loved to have seen Fedor fight Kharitonov and Barnett, just like I would have loved to see Anderson fight Bisping or Fihlo, and seen GSP fight Maia or Kampmann.

Anderson has fought 6 times in the last 3 years and GSP only 4 times. I'm not going to shit on Fedor for fighting some weak competition in the EXTRA fights he took. Phone Post
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D, why are you, writing like, you may not know, how to use a comma,? lol ;) Phone Post
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I find it ironic, ironing if you will, that just a couple weeks ago I made a "Is Anderson Silva Over Hyped" thread, and it got deleted.

 

The PREMISE of the thread, was saying is he overhyped for being the Goat by fighting middleweights.

Thread gets deleted, Anderson loses, and now there is more Goat talk since Fedor's last loss.   Some call me a troll, I say I'm ahead of the curve.

 

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"It's unbeleivable to consider what Fedor did in mma when there was open weight classes above 265 pounds,"

Did he fight anyone but Zulu and HMC who were above 265? What was their combined record, 2-5?


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