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1/12/14 9:08 AM
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This is the inverse of the Frank Mir is the Devil thread. Love it.

GOAT.
1/12/14 9:36 AM
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THERE WAS A GLITCH IN THE MATRiX -
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Chris's Weidman in Tom O'Butthole -  Well, you claim Fedor ducked opponents without any actual knowledge that is the case. So clearly Fedor-haters are delusional idiots who enjoy trying to shit on another mans legacy. Probably because they will never accomplish anything themselves and can only feel satisfaction from acting like assholes. Phone Post

i'm not shitting on his legacy at all. i just don't feel the need to lie about what he actually accomplished. he was a good hw who won the pride title and beat 3 top pride hw's. that's it.

so Anderson was a good MW who won the ufc title and beat 3-4 top UFC MW's. and thats it?

or are Cote, Lietes, Lutter, Irvin, etc the monster comp no one else could beat but Andreson?

keep hating!
Spider beat more top 10 and top 5 challengers than fedor. Had a longer title reign than fedor. Finished the fighter that ko'ed fedor. Phone Post


It makes it worse for the division that guys like that were top 5 LOL! That is the point.

Who are the 10 best MW's that ever lived & who did they beat @ MW, plus those opponents whom they beat also beat @ MW themselves??

You want an ugly story a green gave me Munoz, Maia and Lindland in that top 10 ever @ MW today FFS!

Hendo is but 6-3 @ MW and lost his last fight @ MW to the Hitman prior to AS. He can't cut well & has not even fought @ MW for years.

Instead of just challenging the best like Sak, Hendo, Minowa, Royce and other greats, AS cut weight to fight in the weakest division in the history of the sport

Fedor fought the best, Nog X2, and then chopped all comers as 235 HW with plenty of body fat on him, like CC, Herring, Coleman, big daddy,The monster & AA (rated #2 HW).

Fedor never lost to a fighter with a losing record nor has he other poor loses.
Anderson choked out Hendo.

The one time Fedor is bigger than someone (Hendo) he gets KTFO.

Fedor and Anderson have 2 different legacies.

One with 10 years of beating a few greats and bunches of cans, and also a weird aura about why he never went to the #1 MMA organization.

And the other with a couple of amazing submission losses, that fought the best fighters around and made them look like children.

They are both at the peak of the mountain, looking down at all the other fighters IMO.

GSP was so close to the top, when a sudden gust of wind knocked him down.. Phone Post 3.0

Hate to break this to you noob, but when Fedor was in his prime Pride was the #1 MMA organization.

1/12/14 9:44 AM
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sparkuri -  Who can fill this void? Phone Post

Rhonda Rousey?
Only under the right circumstances can she be girthy enough to fill this void. Phone Post 3.0
1/12/14 9:58 AM
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Fedor was going to go out fighting artofski, Timmy, Barnett, couture.

That was all he needed to cement his legacy.

UFC? He beat enough of their champs.

HW is the most volatile division. You can't get a UFC champ to defend the belt more than 1 time, other than BROCK, since EVER. No so much UFC was a joke, more Fedor and Nog were that good.

That's why big nog was such a badass and great win. Nog went like 16 years beating everyone not named Fedor.

And the most title defense ever in UFC belongs to Brock, at a mighty 2. Brock. Phone Post 3.0
1/12/14 10:14 AM
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Media Monster - Cut weight to face smaller guys?

Sorry, but he fought Hendo at 205 Phone Post 3.0

Sure buddy
1/12/14 10:36 AM
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Media Monster - Cut weight to face smaller guys?

Sorry, but he fought Hendo at 205 Phone Post 3.0
Delusions Phone Post 3.0
1/12/14 10:42 AM
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Sub. For later Phone Post 3.0
1/12/14 10:49 AM
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Best MMA fighter ever.

1/12/14 10:55 AM
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"HW is the most volatile division. You can't get a UFC champ to defend the belt more than 1 time, other than BROCK, since EVER. No so much UFC was a joke, more Fedor and Nog were that good. "

Newsflash: Nog never defended the belt. He lost his first title defense. Fedor defended the belt 3 times during his entire Pride title reign, while Cain Velasquez has already defended the belt twice in under a year since winning it back.
1/12/14 11:04 AM
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gokudamus stole my name iv - "HW is the most volatile division. You can't get a UFC champ to defend the belt more than 1 time, other than BROCK, since EVER. No so much UFC was a joke, more Fedor and Nog were that good. "

Newsflash: Nog never defended the belt. He lost his first title defense. Fedor defended the belt 3 times during his entire Pride title reign, while Cain Velasquez has already defended the belt twice in under a year since winning it back.
10 years undefeated hommie. Phone Post 3.0
1/12/14 11:06 AM
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Never even lost a round. Out stuck the strikers and out grappled the grapples.

Always went for he kill. Phone Post 3.0
1/12/14 11:11 AM
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Fedor is definitely in the GOAT discussion, along with Silva and GSP.
1/12/14 11:20 AM
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Fedor is the type of fighter that gets people in to MMA once they've seen one highlight tape.

He never had to say a word to make you hyped about his fights. Whenever a Fedor fight was coming up I would just feel chills thinking about the epicness way before the fight even happened.

He never hyped shit. He just fought his ass off and kept people coming back for more, how a real fighter should. Phone Post
1/12/14 11:34 AM
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gokudamus stole my name iv - "HW is the most volatile division. You can't get a UFC champ to defend the belt more than 1 time, other than BROCK, since EVER. No so much UFC was a joke, more Fedor and Nog were that good. "

Newsflash: Nog never defended the belt. He lost his first title defense. Fedor defended the belt 3 times during his entire Pride title reign, while Cain Velasquez has already defended the belt twice in under a year since winning it back.

Cain only defended it against guys he already beat.

1/12/14 11:42 AM
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gokudamus stole my name iv - "HW is the most volatile division. You can't get a UFC champ to defend the belt more than 1 time, other than BROCK, since EVER. No so much UFC was a joke, more Fedor and Nog were that good. "

Newsflash: Nog never defended the belt. He lost his first title defense. Fedor defended the belt 3 times during his entire Pride title reign, while Cain Velasquez has already defended the belt twice in under a year since winning it back.

Cain only defended it against guys he already beat.


Fedor only defended it once in the first two years of his reign -- against a guy he had already fought twice.
1/12/14 11:46 AM
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"10 years undefeated hommie. "

So you're abandoning your initial point about title defenses? Good call.

"Never even lost a round."

A truly meaningless statement given that Pride didn't score rounds. But he certainly lost a round to Arona (hence the need for the overtime round).
1/12/14 12:17 PM
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sparkuri -  Who can fill this void? Phone Post

Rhonda Rousey?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vcUNUarrZA
1/12/14 12:28 PM
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role model.

most fighters should learn from it. Looks like Mexican-Fedor is right there following in the footsteps of the GOaT Phone Post
1/12/14 12:44 PM
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He lost a round against fringe contender Bigfoot Silva. He lost the Arona fight altogether. Almost no sane person saw Fedor winning that thing laying on his back holding Arona's head. 

Something remarkable about Fedor is that he ate 6 or 7 of those Mirko left straights and didn't go down or even get rubber legs from them. They were laser shots, KO shots, but he was in such an aggressive bezerker mode that it didn't phase him. If you watch the CC-Fedor fight, CC lands the much cleaner and harder strikes, they do nothing to Fedor and he counters with aggression and wild misses that mentally shuts Cro Cop down when he keeps coming forward. It's an amazing thing actually.

1/12/14 12:51 PM
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"he ate 6 or 7 of those Mirko left straights and didn't go down or even get rubber legs from them."

Looks rubber legged to me. http://i44.tinypic.com/1464h4.jpg

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gokudamus stole my name iv - 
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gokudamus stole my name iv - "HW is the most volatile division. You can't get a UFC champ to defend the belt more than 1 time, other than BROCK, since EVER. No so much UFC was a joke, more Fedor and Nog were that good. "

Newsflash: Nog never defended the belt. He lost his first title defense. Fedor defended the belt 3 times during his entire Pride title reign, while Cain Velasquez has already defended the belt twice in under a year since winning it back. 

Cain only defended it against guys he already beat.


Fedor  defended it once in the first two years of his reign -- against a Prime Nogueira, a Prime Nogueira that Fedor beat twice. NOT the same old, beat up Nogueira that Cain beat to get his title shot. That's right, Cain beat a watered down Nog to get the title, where as Fedor beat him 2 times, in his prime. Nog went SEVEN years losing to only one man.
 
Right on orcus!!
Glad to see you have stopped your obsessive behavior on jumping on any and every positive Fedor thread trying to discredit the man. 
Congradulations on this positive turn of events.
 
I'll keep up with your great post above and add this:
 
orcus - In terms of my estimation of their skills/strengths, in no order:

Fedor
Nog
Cain

and then I start drawing a blank. Overeem ought to be on there but it remains to be seen if he will be a monster in reality as he is on paper, once he starts fighting good opponents. Barnett maybe? But he's looked kind of crappy often too. Tough to say.


orcus - There is simply no fighter at any weight who is as good at wrestling, striking and submissions as Fedor is, with his speed, strength, stamina, and strategy. Case closed.


orcus - "That said, he doesn't finish, which clearly makes him less dominant in his weight class."By your logic, maybe it shows the DEPTH of the HW division because they are all so tough and hard to finish. "Aurelio was probably borderline top 10.. but he just beat #1 GOMI. this shows DEPTH in the division."lol -- why do I have the feeling that if a "borderline top 10" fighter choked out Fedor that it would show that Fedor was laughably over-rated rather than that the division has "DEPTH"? Gomi beats all the LWs = shows his dominance. Fedor beats all the HWs = shows how thin the division is. Gomi gets beat = shows depth of his division, making his dominance even more impressive. Fedor gets beat = shows he isn't that great.Todd and MrColdCock are right on -- guys like Nog, Arlovski, Crocop, possibly Alexander, Barnett, Hunt soon could all beat each other on any given night. But no one, apparently, can touch Fedor.
 
 
1/12/14 1:04 PM
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Oh, and in those two years of Fedor defending his belt twice, he also fought 9 times ;)

 

 

1/12/14 1:17 PM
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People were making excuses about Fedor being old, when he was still in his 20s. Anderson was champion and fighting in the big leagues in to his late 30s.

Anderson.
Georges.
JBJ.

Respect to those Pride fighters who came over and gave it a try. They almost all were cut or struggled to keep contracts, but, they tried. Cro Cop is a stud.
1/12/14 1:32 PM
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"Glad to see you have stopped your obsessive behavior on jumping on any and every positive Fedor thread trying to discredit the man. "

Glad to see you have stopped your obsessisve behavior of following me around and filing away every post I make, along with personal details such as my photo and my age. I wonder if your "orcus" folder is right there on your Windows desktop for immediate access? Also glad to see you are still being a little bitch about FACTUAL ERRORS BEING CORRECTED.

"Oh, and in those two years of Fedor defending his belt twice, he also fought 9 times ;)"

Cool. Presumably if the guy were making a point of how often Fedor fought, he would have said so. However, his point was that the UFC heavyweight champs couldn't defend the belt more than once, except for Brock. So my correction that Cain has defended twice in one year, while Fedor defended three times in his 3.5 year reign, would seem relevant. Do you disagree?

That's my favorite thing about you nuthuggers: You talk up Fedor with idiotic or factually false statements. Then, when called on it, you do two things: You complain about "discrediting" and "haters", and you switch to an entirely different claim, one that presumably wasn't the basis for your worship or you would have said so in the first place.
1/12/14 2:38 PM
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