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6/12/13 1:38 PM
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MasterofMartialArts - KO power is different from solid ground and pound. I'm not saying that Rory has no power at all, but he has defeated all his opponents by dropping them with one shot and finishing them. I don't think Rory has developed that kind of power on the feet. He will soon, but Silva clearly has the power to finish guys on the feet. Phone Post 3.0

Eric Silva has done nothing worth shit on the feet against anyone worth shit in the UFC.  What he has done on the feet that you praise, has been against opponents all weaker than the opponents Rory has faced,,.  Rory would run through every opponent Silva has faced on the feet or ground, and that includes Fitch.  Not  even sure if Eric would have beaten little LW Nate Diaz on the feet.  His power has been tested against no one. 

Whether or not you think his opponents were viable, he has demonstrated plenty of KO power. And the fact that you think Rory would "run through" Ericks opponents is purely speculation. I surely do think that Erick would have outboxed Diaz and maybe even finished him. Rorys striking has developed a lot, I see him as very dangerous on the ground, and not as dangerous standing just yet. This argument wasn't about strength of opposition, it's about your claims of Silvas lack of power. He DROPPED Prater with a knee to the body in the opening secods of that fight, and finished him right away. He DROPPED Ramos with an overhand right, and finished him. He also dropped Brenneman with a knee to the body in the first round of that fight. It seems like he's been protected, but beyond that, these are some of the matchups he was scheduled for:

His debut was going to be against Mike Swick, Swick pulled out with a knee injury and was replaced by Luis Ramos.

His next bout was to be against Siyar Bahadurzada, Siyar pulled out with an injury and was replaced by Carlo Prater.

His next fight was scheduled to be against Jay Heiron, Silva pulled out due to injury.

His last fight was to be against John Hathaway, who was pulled off the card for unknown reasons. He was replaced by Jason High.

So it seems like he's been protected, when in reality, he was supposed to face some much higher caliber fighters. Phone Post 3.0

Get it straight.  I never claimed Eric Silva lacks power.  I question the claim that he has demonstrated superior  power to Rory Macdonald based on dropping Prater or Ramos.  I don't understand how anyone can arrive at such an absurd conclusion based on what he has done to date.  They have no common opponents, so why would you even try and make this arguement.  Guys like Nathan Diaz and BJ Penn have proven to be much more durable opponents than anyone Silva has faced.   Rory has demonstrated every last bit as much of an ability to hurt you and put a beating on your as E Silva has, and that is the only thing that is really relevant to this discussion.  You can try and stretch your posts out all you want to talk about who he almost fought.  It doesn't change anything, and you will not change my mind no matter how much lipstick you want to put on this pig, to get me to see this claim of superior power, as anything but absurd.

6/12/13 3:10 PM
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This fight will probably happen after Ellenberger knocks Rory out. Phone Post 3.0
6/12/13 3:27 PM
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MasterofMartialArts - KO power is different from solid ground and pound. I'm not saying that Rory has no power at all, but he has defeated all his opponents by dropping them with one shot and finishing them. I don't think Rory has developed that kind of power on the feet. He will soon, but Silva clearly has the power to finish guys on the feet. Phone Post 3.0

Eric Silva has done nothing worth shit on the feet against anyone worth shit in the UFC.  What he has done on the feet that you praise, has been against opponents all weaker than the opponents Rory has faced,,.  Rory would run through every opponent Silva has faced on the feet or ground, and that includes Fitch.  Not  even sure if Eric would have beaten little LW Nate Diaz on the feet.  His power has been tested against no one. 

Whether or not you think his opponents were viable, he has demonstrated plenty of KO power. And the fact that you think Rory would "run through" Ericks opponents is purely speculation. I surely do think that Erick would have outboxed Diaz and maybe even finished him. Rorys striking has developed a lot, I see him as very dangerous on the ground, and not as dangerous standing just yet. This argument wasn't about strength of opposition, it's about your claims of Silvas lack of power. He DROPPED Prater with a knee to the body in the opening secods of that fight, and finished him right away. He DROPPED Ramos with an overhand right, and finished him. He also dropped Brenneman with a knee to the body in the first round of that fight. It seems like he's been protected, but beyond that, these are some of the matchups he was scheduled for:

His debut was going to be against Mike Swick, Swick pulled out with a knee injury and was replaced by Luis Ramos.

His next bout was to be against Siyar Bahadurzada, Siyar pulled out with an injury and was replaced by Carlo Prater.

His next fight was scheduled to be against Jay Heiron, Silva pulled out due to injury.

His last fight was to be against John Hathaway, who was pulled off the card for unknown reasons. He was replaced by Jason High.

So it seems like he's been protected, when in reality, he was supposed to face some much higher caliber fighters. Phone Post 3.0

Get it straight.  I never claimed Eric Silva lacks power.  I question the claim that he has demonstrated superior  power to Rory Macdonald based on dropping Prater or Ramos.  I don't understand how anyone can arrive at such an absurd conclusion based on what he has done to date.  They have no common opponents, so why would you even try and make this arguement.  Guys like Nathan Diaz and BJ Penn have proven to be much more durable opponents than anyone Silva has faced.   Rory has demonstrated every last bit as much of an ability to hurt you and put a beating on your as E Silva has, and that is the only thing that is really relevant to this discussion.  You can try and stretch your posts out all you want to talk about who he almost fought.  It doesn't change anything, and you will not change my mind no matter how much lipstick you want to put on this pig, to get me to see this claim of superior power, as anything but absurd.

That's just the thing. He BEAT Penn up, and he BEAT Diaz up, he did NOT demonstrate any KO power in those fights. There's a difference between showing KO power and just beating somebody up. He beat Diaz badly, but the times he dropped him were due to suplexes and throws, not strikes. See the difference? Silva DROPS guys standing and finishes them, regardless of his opponent. Rory has done nothing to suggest he has KO power, he has never dropped anyone, he takes guys down and then pounds on them. There is a tremendous difference. I'm NOT saying he has no power, I'm saying Silva has proven to have more KO power than him. Phone Post 3.0

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