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6/12/13 9:41 AM
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Zach Arnold from FIghtOpinion attended an eight-hour California State Athletic Commission meeting on Monday, and reports that until further notice, there will no Therapeutic Use Exemptions for Testosterone Replacement Therapy.

On the meeting’s agenda, there was this item: “Subcommittee on Therapeutic Use Exemption — Discussion and possible action regarding draft policy.”

Rule 303, which was pushed to try to open up the Therapeutic Use Exemption process for testosterone use, was challenged at Monday’s hearing by Department of Consumer Affairs lawyer Michael Santiago. Karen Chappelle, attorney from the Attorney General’s office in Los Angeles, backed the current behavior regarding allowing fighters to use testosterone despite not having any text passed by the state legislature. Santiago, said that until there is a statute/regulation on the books regarding testosterone that the commission should not be using an ‘underground’ policy of approving T usage. He argued that testosterone is considered a banned substance.

The end result is that fighters like Dan Henderson, Chael Sonnen, and Frank Mir will not be allowed to use testosterone while fighting in California until a law is on the books that explicitly spells out approval for T usage.

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CSAC Executive Director Andy Foster today told MMAjunkie.com that although there would be no new TUE given, existing ones would be honored.


6/12/13 9:43 AM
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Ooh snap.... Phone Post
6/12/13 9:56 AM
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I hope the others follow suit Phone Post
6/12/13 9:58 AM
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OnlyTheStrongSurvive - I hope the others follow suit Phone Post
pretty sure they will,this is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.the jig is up. Phone Post
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Here goes another column to the "Fighter Spreadsheet", stating "Fighters on TRT" and juggle them around Cali and anywhere else that denies TRT exemption. 

 

 

6/12/13 10:05 AM
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So no Vitor or Chael in Cali? Phone Post 3.0
6/12/13 10:06 AM
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Good. Scam anyways. Phone Post 3.0
6/12/13 10:07 AM
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6/12/13 10:08 AM
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OnlyTheStrongSurvive - I hope the others follow suit Phone Post
pretty sure they will,this is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.the jig is up. Phone Post
Really it's up to Nevada. There are some places that basically don't test for it already but if Nevada came out and banned this, it would have an influence on a lot of them. Phone Post
6/12/13 10:24 AM
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Gonna be hard to hold a Cali card now lol Phone Post 3.0
6/12/13 10:27 AM
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CSAC is one big mess.
6/12/13 10:28 AM
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6/12/13 10:32 AM
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guess ufc isnt going to CA for a while...

6/12/13 10:42 AM
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Good for california
6/12/13 10:44 AM
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Excellent decision. If you are old and have low T then make up for it with your experience advantage...or stop fighting cause you're too old.
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mpalan09 - CSAC is one big mess.

This, those guys are all over the place.  TRT has been blown up so much that its crazy.  All because of Sonnen's High levels of test for the Andy fight otherwise it wouldnt be this big.  


There was plenty of controversy before that fight. Sonnen's lies just help expose what a joke it really is. 

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6/12/13 10:59 AM
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This is laughable. What is this going to stop? Absolutely nothing. In fact, what they have done is put a halt to all positive changes and rules the UFC incorporated as of late with their fighters using TRT exemptions. Why would the UFC test fighters like Cheal weekly at this point?

The sport(UFC) was evolving to the next step with regards to testing the athletes to make sure the levels were good, weekly. Now it becomes a case of who has the better doctor again. They will continue to abuse PED's and just cycle off, like they always have been doing. At least you knew who the few fighters were trying to legitimize a medical condition. Regardless of the reason/onset of the medical condition, it should be no ones concern other than their Test levels being at least normal. Not above and not below, normal.

What they should do is lower the accepted amount of 6-1 to 2-1. Out of competition monthly testing for all fighters on the roster. Of course they can't and won't do this because there would no longer be a roster. With just these two suggestions you can see this problem can be easily remedied.

The State Commission has just effectively padded their pockets once again with an increase in possible revenue stemming from positive PED tests.

They let a chick with a dick fight girls but wont let grown men supplement to maintain test levels to preserve at the minimum, a healthy standard of living.
6/12/13 11:00 AM
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I must be missing something. As I understand it, TRT exemption still requires you to pass drug testing, right? You can't get a TRT prescription and be allowed a 10:1 ratio. So how can the CSAC enforce this prohibition? Someone uses TRT correctly, they'll piss clean, right? Phone Post
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Hopefully more commissions do the same. Look if you truly need TRT you do not need to be fighting. End of story. Phone Post 3.0
6/12/13 11:02 AM
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Leigh - I must be missing something. As I understand it, TRT exemption still requires you to pass drug testing, right? You can't get a TRT prescription and be allowed a 10:1 ratio. So how can the CSAC enforce this prohibition? Someone uses TRT correctly, they'll piss clean, right? Phone Post
Carbon isotope test. Phone Post 3.0
6/12/13 11:05 AM
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6/12/13 11:07 AM
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mpalan09 - CSAC is one big mess.

This, those guys are all over the place.  TRT has been blown up so much that its crazy.  All because of Sonnen's High levels of test for the Andy fight otherwise it wouldnt be this big.  


There was plenty of controversy before that fight. Sonnen's lies just help expose what a joke it really is. 


Hendo and Randy were on TRT before all that and i never heard about it before Chaels failed test and all the crap after it.  Chael and Belfort made it a joke.  


So because you "never heard about it" it didn't exist? 

 

There were plenty of Hendo, Randy and Todd Duffee threads here, and everywhere else on MMA forums before Sonnen. Evrybody loves Hendo and Randy (at least back then) so they were not as harsh as they were on the Heel Sonnen, but it was certainly already being discussed. 

6/12/13 11:08 AM
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Just fight for bellator lol they don't test Phone Post 3.0

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