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6/15/13 2:29 AM
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ChaosOverkill
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Kerouac - So yeh, not sure what the fuck you guys are outraged about.

The outrage is at Mazzagatti not seeing Fitch was out and people are commending Burkman for not holding the choke past realizing he went out

6/15/13 2:33 AM
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Fuck Mazagatti, brutal. Do refs not have performance reviews? Is there a shortage of refs? Unreal. I hope it never happens, but if there was ever a death in the octagon and it was because of poor reffing, the UFC- and the sport of MMa as a whole- would lose out tremendously. - The shitty ref may be out looking for a job the next day, but that's about it.

Its crazy the organizations have no say in which refs are used- the commissions could give them a choice of however many, and that could be that. At least then, there is some incentive on the referee's side to try and do their job to the best of their abilities, and the shitty refs would slowly leave the sport as they wouldn't find any work.

6/15/13 2:34 AM
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Is this suppose to be a GIF? If not, where is the GIF? Phone Post 3.0
6/15/13 2:38 AM
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Is this suppose to be a GIF? If not, where is the GIF? Phone Post 3.0

I see a gif in your quote.. but in case you don't.. here is another..

 

 

6/15/13 2:38 AM
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6/15/13 2:45 AM
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dfw jr - Thank god Josh is class and stopped because that fucking idiot Mazzagatti had NO CLUE what was going on. Much respect Josh Phone Post
Bas would beg to differ Phone Post 3.0

Exactly. Bas Rutten was commentating how Burkman "might" be able to pull off the submission as Burkman was already releasing the hold.

Love the 20/20 hindsight.
6/15/13 2:45 AM
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The worst (funniest) part about it is the dumb fuckin look on Mazzagatti's face when Burkman released the choke & turned Fitch's limp body over.. The dumb shit was so dumbfounded that a man could be choked out after 20 seconds in a tight guillotine that he actually hesitated to see him lay there lifeless before he called the fight.
6/15/13 2:58 AM
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Can't believe what I just saw. Mazagatti was just stood against the cage like a naughty school boy.

How can this guy be a ref? It's not even funny, Fitch could've ended up with brain damage had he been fighting someone else. Phone Post 3.0
6/15/13 3:00 AM
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Pessimist_Pete - Steve never stopped the fight. It's technically still going. Phone Post 3.0
Lol Phone Post 3.0
6/15/13 3:02 AM
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Kerouac - So yeh, not sure what the fuck you guys are outraged about.
Really? How about the fact that Mazagatti was stood on the wrong side about 6 foot from the action.

Him being stood there meant he never did or never would have seen Fitch go limp. Phone Post 3.0
6/15/13 3:02 AM
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Mazzagati should have been on the mat next to them doing the little "arm jiggle" thing. Phone Post
6/15/13 3:02 AM
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Steve was probably just thinking, "he'd rather die then wake up to realize what just happened"
6/15/13 3:03 AM
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ChaosOverkill -
Kerouac - So yeh, not sure what the fuck you guys are outraged about.

The outrage is at Mazzagatti not seeing Fitch was out and people are commending Burkman for not holding the choke past realizing he went out

This. It's not Burkman's job to call the fight but he did anyway. Phone Post 3.0
6/15/13 3:22 AM
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Kerouac - So yeh, not sure what the fuck you guys are outraged about.
Really? How about the fact that Mazagatti was stood on the wrong side about 6 foot from the action.

Him being stood there meant he never did or never would have seen Fitch go limp. Phone Post 3.0

Maybes are hard to go on, but I get your point. He seemed laissez-faireish.

Still though, Josh let go, Fitch was out, fight over...no damage.

Think about all the one hit knockouts that are followed up with at least one punch...should all the refs that don't swandive between both fighters be scrutinized the same way?

Quite a few wagoners here.
6/15/13 3:24 AM
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the fuck are you all moaning about?

fitch didnt tap. he was posted up, then he went limp, and less than a second later burkman let go and rolled him over. no one is going to stop that from there unless either:
- the fighter taps
- the fighter goes out/limp

fitch went limp and immediately burkman let go. exactly when was mazzagati supposed to stop it?

whole lot of bandwagoning going on.
6/15/13 3:26 AM
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x9uv - the fuck are you all moaning about?

fitch didnt tap. he was posted up, then he went limp, and less than a second later burkman let go and rolled him over. no one is going to stop that from there unless either:
- the fighter taps
- the fighter goes out/limp

fitch went limp and immediately burkman let go. exactly when was mazzagati supposed to stop it?

whole lot of bandwagoning going on.

Really, Fuckface?
6/15/13 3:42 AM
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x9uv - the fuck are you all moaning about?

fitch didnt tap. he was posted up, then he went limp, and less than a second later burkman let go and rolled him over. no one is going to stop that from there unless either:
- the fighter taps
- the fighter goes out/limp

fitch went limp and immediately burkman let go. exactly when was mazzagati supposed to stop it?

whole lot of bandwagoning going on.

Really, Fuckface?

good answer. so 'really fuckface' is when it was supposed to be stopped. thanks for the clarification, feel free to mount the bandwagon again dipshit
6/15/13 3:49 AM
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Kerouac - 
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Kerouac - So yeh, not sure what the fuck you guys are outraged about.
Really? How about the fact that Mazagatti was stood on the wrong side about 6 foot from the action.

Him being stood there meant he never did or never would have seen Fitch go limp. Phone Post 3.0

Maybes are hard to go on, but I get your point. He seemed laissez-faireish.

Still though, Josh let go, Fitch was out, fight over...no damage.

Think about all the one hit knockouts that are followed up with at least one punch...should all the refs that don't swandive between both fighters be scrutinized the same way?

Quite a few wagoners here.

Yes, because a ref getting beat to the spot by punches is equatable to literally not comprehending what's happening in front of you. Mazz didn't even swoop in to investigate Fitch's condition/status, because he had no idea what the fuck was unfolding in front of him.

If you don't think this is cause for concern, and believe anyone who does is a "wagoner," you possess a special kind of stupid.
6/15/13 3:51 AM
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Fitch made a sharp exit
6/15/13 3:55 AM
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Maz poofed it... Phone Post 3.0
6/15/13 4:00 AM
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It would be great to see Burkman back in the octagon. Make it happen Dana! Phone Post 3.0
6/15/13 4:01 AM
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Kerouac -
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Kerouac - So yeh, not sure what the fuck you guys are outraged about.
Really? How about the fact that Mazagatti was stood on the wrong side about 6 foot from the action.

Him being stood there meant he never did or never would have seen Fitch go limp. Phone Post 3.0

Maybes are hard to go on, but I get your point. He seemed laissez-faireish.

Still though, Josh let go, Fitch was out, fight over...no damage.

Think about all the one hit knockouts that are followed up with at least one punch...should all the refs that don't swandive between both fighters be scrutinized the same way?

Quite a few wagoners here.
Yeah, burkman did let go, I think people's point is, what if it was a killer like, I dunno frank mir?

He aint letting go until the ref drags him off.

Fitch was lucky it was burkman. Phone Post
6/15/13 4:06 AM
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dfw jr - Thank god Josh is class and stopped because that fucking idiot Mazzagatti had NO CLUE what was going on. Much respect Josh Phone Post
Tell me how you really feel, lol... Phone Post 3.0
6/15/13 5:57 AM
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One of my friends sent me the fight on Facebook... That was a holy shit moment what a finish!
6/15/13 6:27 AM
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Fuckin ay, Mazagatti! Pure class from Burkman!

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