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6/20/13 9:13 AM
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JoeDavolasRoundhouseKick - Again if the fought in Pride since they're around the same age. Who would of kicked who's ass? That ends the argument and it ends with Fedor respectively beating Anderon. To me that is who's better Phone Post 3.0
In a GOAT discussion "who would have beat who" is not the be all end all.

Honestly, prime vs prime, there is no guarantee of who wins. Fedor might be the slight favorite, but I don't see either as a lock to win. Phone Post
6/20/13 9:17 AM
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Trust me I an a fan of Fedor and would love to say that he is #1 but I can't. Anderson is unreal, Fedor did not tool and play with his opponents like that. He is an animal and his opponents looked like his toys to ko. Also he is almost 38. I know I will miss Anderson a lot more than Fedor. He is a special fighter. Phone Post
6/20/13 9:25 AM
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JoeDavolasRoundhouseKick - Again if the fought in Pride since they're around the same age. Who would of kicked who's ass? That ends the argument and it ends with Fedor respectively beating Anderon. To me that is who's better Phone Post 3.0
In a GOAT discussion "who would have beat who" is not the be all end all.

Honestly, prime vs prime, there is no guarantee of who wins. Fedor might be the slight favorite, but I don't see either as a lock to win. Phone Post
He would punch and clutch him just like Nog and get him down and pride GnP him. Silva couldn't handle Chaels closing speed on takedowns, so now he's handling Fedor's. Anderson is a beast and when he's gone he'll get clowned by all the new fan breed and get disrespected and downplayed like Fedor. I mean the dude ruled the division where head can get knocked off at anytime for 10 yrs. Phone Post 3.0
6/20/13 10:31 AM
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Mhorad - Silva is unbelievable. Simply awesome.
Some good points about Fedor, but the FACTS remain.

In his prime he crushed everyone. All the top fighters knew he was the best, and so did the fans. I recall even Joe Rogan stated as much.

Randy Couture LEFT the UFC as the CURRENT HW UFC Champ to try and fight him, and was taken to court by the UFC to stop the match.

Tim Silvia and Andrei Arlovski BOTH left the UFC to fight him (and BOTH got KTFO).

Minotouro is STILL in the top 10 all this time later, and Fedor CRUSHED him in his prime TWICE.

Silva will also lose soon (unless he retires, which I doubt) and you same weak minded fags will bag him as well.

Real fans know that both Fedor and Silva (and GSP) are living legends, and the greatest fighters of all time.

BUT if Silva was as good, he would be fighting at Heavyweight. Simple as that.

I'm proud to have experienced the full range of emotions relating to Fedor's career from:

- Who's this Russian dude? Comon...he can't beat Herring
- Who's this Fedor dude? Comon....he can't beat Minotouro
- Holy fuck....he's beating everyone! (for the next 8 years)
- Oh no, surely the UFC will pick him up (for the next 4 years)....FOR FUCKS SAKE...GET HIM IN THE UFC!
- Oh no, he IS human.
- Please Fedor, don't retire...

And now we have to put up with cunt sponges bagging him. No matter what happens, he will ALWAYS be regarded as the Greatest ever. You will never change that.

Run the pols dickheads. Your opinion won't change shit.

Neither will the revisionists.

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! You're funny, i like you.
That is unless you actually believe what you wrote here and you're just not troling...Then you're not so funny, or likeable.
6/20/13 10:51 AM
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JoeDavolasRoundhouseKick - Again if the fought in Pride since they're around the same age. Who would of kicked who's ass? That ends the argument and it ends with Fedor respectively beating Anderon. To me that is who's better Phone Post 3.0
In a GOAT discussion "who would have beat who" is not the be all end all.

Honestly, prime vs prime, there is no guarantee of who wins. Fedor might be the slight favorite, but I don't see either as a lock to win. Phone Post
He would punch and clutch him just like Nog and get him down and pride GnP him. Silva couldn't handle Chaels closing speed on takedowns, so now he's handling Fedor's. Anderson is a beast and when he's gone he'll get clowned by all the new fan breed and get disrespected and downplayed like Fedor. I mean the dude ruled the division where head can get knocked off at anytime for 10 yrs. Phone Post 3.0
Mws move faster than hws. Fedors speed is only in comparison to hws. When he fought a smaller lhw/mw, he got KTFO, remember? Phone Post
6/20/13 10:54 AM
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JoeDavolasRoundhouseKick - Again if the fought in Pride since they're around the same age. Who would of kicked who's ass? That ends the argument and it ends with Fedor respectively beating Anderon. To me that is who's better Phone Post 3.0
In a GOAT discussion "who would have beat who" is not the be all end all.

Honestly, prime vs prime, there is no guarantee of who wins. Fedor might be the slight favorite, but I don't see either as a lock to win. Phone Post
He would punch and clutch him just like Nog and get him down and pride GnP him. Silva couldn't handle Chaels closing speed on takedowns, so now he's handling Fedor's. Anderson is a beast and when he's gone he'll get clowned by all the new fan breed and get disrespected and downplayed like Fedor. I mean the dude ruled the division where head can get knocked off at anytime for 10 yrs. Phone Post 3.0
Mws move faster than hws. Fedors speed is only in comparison to hws. When he fought a smaller lhw/mw, he got KTFO, remember? Phone Post
Yes I remember but he was deteriorating years before that. Look at his physique in Rings and early Pride he had cat speed and was built like a bull. Phone Post 3.0
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anthonyshogun - Until he can dominate larger opponents like fedor did , he will always be number 2 IMO Phone Post 3.0

 


You mean like the large MW in Hendo and Sonnen or LHW's Bonnar, Griffin, Irvin?

Don't be a hater just appreciate his greatness.

6/20/13 10:57 AM
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Boise State never loses either, it's all about competition.

Anderson Silva might be the most talented of all time but I look at the degree of difficulty being lower than that of GSP and Jones, Weidman will help his case though
6/20/13 10:59 AM
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anthonyshogun - Until he can dominate larger opponents like fedor did , he will always be number 2 IMO Phone Post 3.0
That's why no one will take your opinion seriously. Phone Post
First of all fedor is the consensus goat. So yeah , heaps of people would agree with my opinion. Secondly , who gives two fucks what you think Phone Post 3.0

Fedor WAS the consensus GOAT 4 or 5 years ago. No where near a consensus now and if it was polled now amongst MMA writers I think Anderson wins that poll.

6/20/13 11:03 AM
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anthonyshogun - Until he can dominate larger opponents like fedor did , he will always be number 2 IMO Phone Post 3.0
That's why no one will take your opinion seriously. Phone Post
First of all fedor is the consensus goat. So yeah , heaps of people would agree with my opinion. Secondly , who gives two fucks what you think Phone Post 3.0

Fedor WAS the consensus GOAT 4 or 5 years ago. No where near a consensus now and if it was polled now amongst MMA writers I think Anderson wins that poll.

Run the poll then. Lets see how it turns out Phone Post 3.0
6/20/13 11:25 AM
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Best video ever made. And notice Rogans quote in the beginning. If a blue namer would do me the honor.


http://youtu.be/lVVrNOQtlzY Phone Post 3.0
6/20/13 11:36 AM
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Can't have a GOAT in a sport with different weight classes.
6/20/13 12:04 PM
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JoeDavolasRoundhouseKick - Best video ever made. And notice Rogans quote in the beginning. If a blue namer would do me the honor.


http://youtu.be/lVVrNOQtlzY Phone Post 3.0

Amazing vid. Fedor before he found god was an unbeatable killer. No fighter on the planet would of beat him in his prime...Silva would not of lasted a round imo.

Remember this is just an opinion.
6/20/13 12:15 PM
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Ayk07 -  Trust me I an a fan of Fedor and would love to say that he is #1 but I can't. Anderson is unreal, Fedor did not tool and play with his opponents like that. He is an animal and his opponents looked like his toys to ko. Also he is almost 38. I know I will miss Anderson a lot more than Fedor. He is a special fighter. Phone Post

to be fair, toying with Maia, Lietes, Cote, Bonner, etc is not like fighting or toying with Heath Herring, Semmy Schilt, Prime Nog, Coleman, Arlovski, etc. Anderson would NOT be able to toy with these guys either.
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JoeDavolasRoundhouseKick - Again if the fought in Pride since they're around the same age. Who would of kicked who's ass? That ends the argument and it ends with Fedor respectively beating Anderon. To me that is who's better Phone Post 3.0
In a GOAT discussion "who would have beat who" is not the be all end all.

Honestly, prime vs prime, there is no guarantee of who wins. Fedor might be the slight favorite, but I don't see either as a lock to win. Phone Post
He would punch and clutch him just like Nog and get him down and pride GnP him. Silva couldn't handle Chaels closing speed on takedowns, so now he's handling Fedor's. Anderson is a beast and when he's gone he'll get clowned by all the new fan breed and get disrespected and downplayed like Fedor. I mean the dude ruled the division where head can get knocked off at anytime for 10 yrs. Phone Post 3.0
Mws move faster than hws. Fedors speed is only in comparison to hws. When he fought a smaller lhw/mw, he got KTFO, remember? Phone Post

that was ONE frikin Fight he lost like that, Remember! and Hendo's been known to slip in those short ko punches, just ask Renzo and Bustamante.
6/20/13 12:19 PM
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JoeDavolasRoundhouseKick - Best video ever made. And notice Rogans quote in the beginning. If a blue namer would do me the honor.


http://youtu.be/lVVrNOQtlzY Phone Post 3.0

Amazing vid. Fedor before he found god was an unbeatable killer. No fighter on the planet would of beat him in his prime...Silva would not of lasted a round imo.

Remember this is just an opinion.
Don't forget 10 min round as well. Phone Post 3.0
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JoeDavolasRoundhouseKick - Again if the fought in Pride since they're around the same age. Who would of kicked who's ass? That ends the argument and it ends with Fedor respectively beating Anderon. To me that is who's better Phone Post 3.0
In a GOAT discussion "who would have beat who" is not the be all end all.

Honestly, prime vs prime, there is no guarantee of who wins. Fedor might be the slight favorite, but I don't see either as a lock to win. Phone Post
He would punch and clutch him just like Nog and get him down and pride GnP him. Silva couldn't handle Chaels closing speed on takedowns, so now he's handling Fedor's. Anderson is a beast and when he's gone he'll get clowned by all the new fan breed and get disrespected and downplayed like Fedor. I mean the dude ruled the division where head can get knocked off at anytime for 10 yrs. Phone Post 3.0
Mws move faster than hws. Fedors speed is only in comparison to hws. When he fought a smaller lhw/mw, he got KTFO, remember? Phone Post

that was ONE frikin Fight he lost like that, Remember! and Hendo's been known to slip in those short ko punches, just ask Renzo and Bustamante.
Why don't you ask Anderson too? He slipped those punches before choking Hendo out. Phone Post
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Bofbro - Lets ask the Brazilian fans who they think the GOAT is.
Oh already been done, landslide for Fedor methinks.

Fedor has beat more UFC belt holders than anyone else, but he gets shit on because he's never fought in the UFC.

He gets shit on because he never fought anyone HOLDING the ufc belt. Phone Post

And Usain Bolt never won in the Special Olympics.

What's your point?
Point is fedor ducked the ufc. Fact. Phone Post

No it's not a fact, it's another uneducated post.

Dana White just recently said he was in direct talks with Fedor to fight Brock, until his father died. Do people who are ducking enter negotiations?
6/20/13 12:40 PM
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Bofbro - Lets ask the Brazilian fans who they think the GOAT is.
Oh already been done, landslide for Fedor methinks.

Fedor has beat more UFC belt holders than anyone else, but he gets shit on because he's never fought in the UFC.

He gets shit on because he never fought anyone HOLDING the ufc belt. Phone Post

And Usain Bolt never won in the Special Olympics.

What's your point?
Point is fedor ducked the ufc. Fact. Phone Post

No it's not a fact, it's another uneducated post.

Dana White just recently said he was in direct talks with Fedor to fight Brock, until his father died. Do people who are ducking enter negotiations?

actually it is a fact. we've seen this dance for the better part of 6 years. it's simply a smoke screen by fedor/his management to keep his name relevant. if you don't realize this by now, you're an uneduacated fedor fan.

Amazing how much hate you hold
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omega 2013 - 
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Bofbro - Lets ask the Brazilian fans who they think the GOAT is.
Oh already been done, landslide for Fedor methinks.

Fedor has beat more UFC belt holders than anyone else, but he gets shit on because he's never fought in the UFC.

He gets shit on because he never fought anyone HOLDING the ufc belt. Phone Post

And Usain Bolt never won in the Special Olympics.

What's your point?
Point is fedor ducked the ufc. Fact. Phone Post

No it's not a fact, it's another uneducated post.

Dana White just recently said he was in direct talks with Fedor to fight Brock, until his father died. Do people who are ducking enter negotiations?

actually it is a fact. we've seen this dance for the better part of 6 years. it's simply a smoke screen by fedor/his management to keep his name relevant. if you don't realize this by now, you're an uneduacated fedor fan.

Amazing how much hate you hold
Much angers him Phone Post 3.0
6/20/13 1:17 PM
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I've got nothing to add to the debate here because I think you can't really compare apples and oranges and I'm not into the GOAT stuff, but one thing that has always struck me about Anderson Silva is when he gets into the 'I'm-annoyed-you're-still-trying-to-hit-me' mode. It doesn't happen every fight, and I don't know if it has to do with that fighter being disrespectful to Silva so he wants to humiliate them, or if during the course of the fight, having got a feel for his opponent, he realizes that they are not on his level, but it's like watching a cat knock around a mouse. It's shocking to me as a hardcore fan, and my friends who don't normally watch fights go crazy when it happens. Joe said it best: it's like a movie or something. Say what you want about competition, but anyone who is competing against Anderson Silva is a world class fighter to have even got to that point, so to see him play them like a harp is something I don't expect we'll see again for a long time, even from fighters as dominant as Jones. Now maybe that's just Anderson's personality, and JBJ/GSP/Fedor/Jesus could do the same thing, but that complete lack of concern for what his opponent is throwing at him will always be something that, in my mind, differentiates Silva from anyone else I've watched fight. Simply incredible.

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Hendo should have stuck with his round one game plan for the remainder of the Anderson fight, He didn't.... Sonnen owned Anderson in the stand up and the ground, he has terrible submission defence, those are the most skilled grappler/wrestler fighters that Anderson has fought, I know Anderson is 16-0 in historically the weakest division in the ufc imo, Anderson hasn't fought any extremely dangerous opponents in his run other than Belfort, Henderson, chael, some other quality fighters, but who else is a top level all time great sytle fighter??? Okami???? Anderson is an incredible fighter, But there are ways to beat Anderson, he has for the most part had favorable matchups, Mind you Anderson has basically fought everyone that he should have fought. I think its just a relatively weak division, Having said that, andy may have walked through everyone minus jones at 205 since he walked into the ufc. Weidman is really the most well rounded dangerous opponent in the ufc in ages, forrest, bonnar, cote, leites, Irvin, Marquart(pretty well rounded) Are not all off the charts fighters...Hate all you want, But he certainly hasn't had the hardest fight schedule, and before that it wasn't any better.....He selects easier fights at 205 as opposed to the top of the division. The Zuffa machine is at an all time high.........I am very interested in the Weidman fight

And when Anderson steps into the octagon against Weidman, there may be a 4th person in the octagon....Father time, that is a factor no one can predict, but the end is on the horizon imo, goat or not
6/20/13 2:39 PM
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anthonyshogun - Until he can dominate larger opponents like fedor did , he will always be number 2 IMO Phone Post 3.0
I love Fedor but how can you be the greatest if you lose.. even against smaller opponents (Hendo) like Fedor did.

Anderson is easily GOAT. Phone Post 3.0
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For the record I think Anderson is GOAT of MMA
6/20/13 3:01 PM
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anthonyshogun - Until he can dominate larger opponents like fedor did , he will always be number 2 IMO Phone Post 3.0
I love Fedor but how can you be the greatest if you lose.. even against smaller opponents (Hendo) like Fedor did.

Anderson is easily GOAT. Phone Post 3.0

Now this is sarcasm I can appresicate.

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