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6/27/13 7:48 PM
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Same old story, same old song-and-dance from MMALOGIC.
6/27/13 8:02 PM
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Within 100k viewers of some of the ratings that TUF 16 drew. I don't think they're at any more risk of being cancelled than TUF is.


TUF 16 was considered a disaster and convinced Fox to move it off Fridays.

If they can get the numbers up to 700k, I think it would be seen as ok. The problem with these numbers is that it was hoped the show could help Bellator increase it's overall audience and create new stars like early TUF shows did. With audiences this small, it will have very little impact on the visibility of the company.
6/27/13 8:03 PM
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Stipe - Those numbers actually seem pretty good to me.
Spike could beat those numbers with reruns of anything.

How can you spin 550,000 people watching at that time on a channel that over 90 million get? Phone Post

 

yep... spike averaged 700k viewers last week airing mostly reruns.  550k viewers on primetime wednesday night is aweful. 

There's nothing else on TV except reruns.  550k for a first run program is atrocious. 

 

 

6/27/13 8:07 PM
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Within 100k viewers of some of the ratings that TUF 16 drew. I don't think they're at any more risk of being cancelled than TUF is.


Let's do a 1 year screen name bet.  I bet there's no second season.

6/27/13 8:12 PM
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Yeah, but wasn't there like some kind of game or something on this week, too?

 

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Nothing on except mostly reruns... take a look at the top 100 cable programs for that night:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/06/27/wednesday-cable-ratings-royal-pains-wins-night-necesaary-roughness-franklin-bash-futurama-toddlers-tiaras-more/189291/

6/27/13 8:27 PM
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Yeah, but wasn't there like some kind of game or something on this week, too?

 

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Nothing on except mostly reruns... take a look at the top 100 cable programs for that night:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/06/27/wednesday-cable-ratings-royal-pains-wins-night-necesaary-roughness-franklin-bash-futurama-toddlers-tiaras-more/189291/

Toddlers and tiaras beat them ahahahahaha ...



Sn at least there up from last week ... I hope bellator makes it ... Phone Post 3.0
6/27/13 8:34 PM
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Yeah, but wasn't there like some kind of game or something on this week, too?

 

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6/27/13 8:37 PM
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I watched a couple of episodes recently. The show is decent so far. I'm curious to see hoe it looks once everyone is in a camp and has started the tournament.

That said, I feel conflicted. The show is good enough to watch, but I kind-of don't want to support Bellator due to how shady they're being with Eddie Alvarez.

I'll probably catch an episode here and there if I happen upon it, but I'm not going to be a regular viewer, for certain. It makes me sick the way Alvarez is being screwed.
6/27/13 8:44 PM
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Within 100k viewers of some of the ratings that TUF 16 drew. I don't think they're at any more risk of being cancelled than TUF is.


and that was considered an absolute disaster and a complete flop when they were doing 650k, people were calling for the show to be killed at that point.

So how is doing 100k less than that good?  Also they bounced back cause TUF is a proven show that has 17 seasons under its belt and a fanbase.  Fight Master doesnt have that.

6/27/13 8:50 PM
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Bellator Fan - It's a better show than TUF Phone Post 3.0

Its a very similar show to TUF it just has 4 coaches instead of two, isntead of Jones/Sonnen or Rashad/Page bickering at each other you have Frank and Warren with Randy and Jackson doing it.

Other than that the show is basically the same.  It comes down to what you like, I think the way TUF 17 was is better than this but the real show hasnt started yet.  Thats where we will see how much different it is.

Right now its the same, cage in a warehouse/gym, fighters fight to get into the house, coaches evaluate, they live and train together, fighters fight at the end for a contract/tournament spot.

 

6/27/13 9:15 PM
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Within 100k viewers of some of the ratings that TUF 16 drew. I don't think they're at any more risk of being cancelled than TUF is.


Let's do a 1 year screen name bet.  I bet there's no second season.

Damn, shit just got real.





LOGIC have you ever done a SN bet? Phone Post 3.0

never done one before.

6/27/13 9:21 PM
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Within 100k viewers of some of the ratings that TUF 16 drew. I don't think they're at any more risk of being cancelled than TUF is.


TUF 16 was considered a disaster and convinced Fox to move it off Fridays.

If they can get the numbers up to 700k, I think it would be seen as ok. The problem with these numbers is that it was hoped the show could help Bellator increase it's overall audience and create new stars like early TUF shows did. With audiences this small, it will have very little impact on the visibility of the company.

That's not at all how it happened. Fox was fine with those numbers because it was on a difficult night for original programming. The reason it was moved was because Zuffa was unhappy with the numbers and wanted a better spot.

I recall Meltzer talking about the lowest numbers of 16 had Fox agreeing with the UFC that it was being hurt by the night.

They had, prior to season 16, agreed to look at moving it to another night if things did not improve. But in season 16, both sides were concerned with the lowest of the lows.
6/27/13 9:22 PM
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Within 100k viewers of some of the ratings that TUF 16 drew. I don't think they're at any more risk of being cancelled than TUF is.


TUF 16 was considered a disaster and convinced Fox to move it off Fridays.

If they can get the numbers up to 700k, I think it would be seen as ok. The problem with these numbers is that it was hoped the show could help Bellator increase it's overall audience and create new stars like early TUF shows did. With audiences this small, it will have very little impact on the visibility of the company.

That's not at all how it happened. Fox was fine with those numbers because it was on a difficult night for original programming. The reason it was moved was because Zuffa was unhappy with the numbers and wanted a better spot.

I think that's what Dana wanted everyone to believe because he didnt want it to seem like a failure.  What was true though is that FX didnt really care because they were just a placeholder until FS1 launched.  

But during tuf 16 I think even Fox realized this franchise could get killed off in the friday night timeslot before fs1 even launches.

More importantly, Tuf was on a friday night.  while Fightmaster is on the historical best timeslot for an mma reality show.  Byork must be waking up in cold sweats regarding the friday night move.

6/27/13 9:22 PM
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6/27/13 9:25 PM
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keep posting hating jelous threads and I will watch the rerun too
6/27/13 10:04 PM
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Out of the last 18 threads you made 11 were about Bellator and all of them were riding Bellators nuts.

Your name is also Bellator Fan. 

6/27/13 11:22 PM
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What did you expect Ultimate Fighter numbers??


Show seems like they are doing good for a few episodes! Phone Post 3.0
6/27/13 11:34 PM
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TheMessiah - What did you expect Ultimate Fighter numbers??


Show seems like they are doing good for a few episodes! Phone Post 3.0

I actually thought they would do more than the live events since it fits in with Spikes reality programming.

But they messed up not putting it on Thurs after TNA to keep viewers.

I figured atlesat 700-800k a week.

6/28/13 12:42 AM
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This is very pathetic. Phone Post 3.0
6/28/13 12:43 AM
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Within 100k viewers of some of the ratings that TUF 16 drew. I don't think they're at any more risk of being cancelled than TUF is.


Let's do a 1 year screen name bet.  I bet there's no second season.

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6/28/13 6:37 AM
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TheMessiah - What did you expect Ultimate Fighter numbers??


Show seems like they are doing good for a few episodes! Phone Post 3.0
Dude they could put programming that costs A FRACTION of what this show costs in that slot and do 500k. Phone Post
6/28/13 7:10 AM
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Your last four threads.

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He's the most obvious shill there is Phone Post 3.0
6/28/13 7:30 AM
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I really dont think the week to week Bellator overall numbers mean much to the financiers at Viacom - what will matter is the collecetive numbers the programming pulls in the key demo after 8months to a year, so far those are not good, questions being:

 

Why couldnt Bellator hold greater than 50% of the TNA leadin audience they were given in their first Spike season?

Why isnt our marquee signing (Mo) able to draw > 500K key demo viewers for his quarter hour?

What happened to that Puerto Rican kid with the ravashing eyebrows that was the company star when the org was on MTV2?

 

 

 

6/28/13 7:39 AM
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6/28/13 8:03 AM
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Stipe - Those numbers actually seem pretty good to me.
Spike could beat those numbers with reruns of anything.

How can you spin 550,000 people watching at that time on a channel that over 90 million get? Phone Post

90 million households actually. And no, they couldn't, and they almost never do.

Do you have any idea what most fucking shows get on a given tier of network in a given timeslot? No? Then shut the fuck up. The UFC put actual cards on Fuel TV that were available in 36 million homes and barely got a better viewership percentage than a late-night B-League reality show. Not to mention TUF 15 doing equally bad on FX. Wow, the UFC must fucking suck, right? I mean it's not like there are any other factors at play in things, right? Except there are a million other factors and your comment is retarded as fuck.

I generally shit all over Bellator but honestly, they did extremely well for their timeslot considering they had no lead-in this time. I'm actually shocked they went up from last week without said lead-in, I mean the show isn't bad but it isn't _that_ good, and it's clear they're editing shit to show the picks out of order, and I expected it to do 300,000-350,000 viewers and they exceeded that considerably.

So, yeah I'll give Bellator credit where it's due, this number is actually somewhat impressive.


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