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7/3/13 8:51 PM
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Is this based on his performance in ADCC or the fact that he submitted Lawlor and wasn't submitted by Maia? For comparison, who is the best submission guy Silva has been on the ground with? Lutter? Did the Leites, Marquardt, or Horn fights ever go to the ground for any significant amount of time? Just curious.
7/3/13 9:04 PM
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Silva has some high level BJJ, so it's hard to say.

He hasn't fought a high level Wrestler + BJJ fighter since Lutter so it makes it an intriguing matchup.
7/3/13 9:22 PM
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Pitbull3744 - Yes it is 100 percent. Not saying Silva is a slouch but Weidmans Bjj is def elite level Phone Post 3.0
This should make it easier to get down from swinging on Weidmans nuts.

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7/3/13 9:22 PM
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Pitbull3744 - Yes it is 100 percent. Not saying Silva is a slouch but Weidmans Bjj is def elite level Phone Post 3.0
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7/3/13 9:59 PM
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has anderson ever competed in strictly grappling matches? you cant really say weidman has better bjj. mma bjj, maybe, maybe not. we will see i guess. Phone Post
7/3/13 10:00 PM
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Anderson tapped out the Michael Jordan of BJJ

7/3/13 10:10 PM
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Voted you up Frank G! Always a good poster. Phone Post 3.0
7/3/13 10:12 PM
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Pitbull3744 - Yes it is 100 percent. Not saying Silva is a slouch but Weidmans Bjj is def elite level Phone Post 3.0
This should make it easier to get down from swinging on Weidmans nuts.

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After Saturday I might need to use your ladder dude... But until then...
7/3/13 10:22 PM
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NO. Just dont see how that is even possible. Silva has been practicing BJJ before weidman even started mma.
Even when silva was on the ground for 4.5 rounds against sonnen he threw vicious elbows and did some damage, who knows how weidman reacts to being hit with elbows from the bottom? Its alot different than BJJ competitions, condit also throws some vicious elbows from his back and it could make weidman uncomfortable. Like silva said this is mma not wrestling or BJJ comp.. Phone Post 3.0
7/3/13 10:22 PM
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I don't think we have enough data on Weidman to make a claim one way or another.

MMA BJJ we do know Anderson has submitted a few people who were rarely ever submitted at the time. Henderson has only ever been submitted by Andy and Nog brothers. Lutter at the time I don't think was ever submitted, or maybe once...iirc. Both are not easy people to submit.

Weidman couldn't submit sakara nor maia (not that anyone submits maia in MMA) Phone Post
7/3/13 10:44 PM
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UGCTT_ Lay'n'PrayNINJA - I don't think we have enough data on Weidman to make a claim one way or another.

MMA BJJ we do know Anderson has submitted a few people who were rarely ever submitted at the time. Henderson has only ever been submitted by Andy and Nog brothers. Lutter at the time I don't think was ever submitted, or maybe once...iirc. Both are not easy people to submit.

Weidman couldn't submit sakara nor maia (not that anyone submits maia in MMA) Phone Post
Hendo was exhausted in the Nog fights and on queer street vs Andy. Even lutter was tired as hell with his half round gas tank. Phone Post
7/3/13 11:21 PM
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I don't think subbing tom lawlor and bongfelt or whatever his name is makes his bjj better than silvas. He didnt get subbed by Maia so he deserves credit sure for that but he also never had Maia in any danger. Phone Post
7/3/13 11:44 PM
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JewJitsu112 - Anderson does not have elite level BJJ

I'd be curious to know how you define that term.
7/4/13 12:16 AM
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answer is yes and its not close, not by a little

7/4/13 12:19 AM
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Vale_Tudo_83 - I don't think subbing tom lawlor and bongfelt or whatever his name is makes his bjj better than silvas. He didnt get subbed by Maia so he deserves credit sure for that but he also never had Maia in any danger. Phone Post
Did you hear what Roger said about him? I doubt Chris Weidman would have his guard passed and mounted by Chael. Phone Post
7/4/13 12:37 AM
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Hard to say. Anderson has developed BJJ for MMA while Weidman has competed in more strict grappling tournaments.
7/4/13 12:48 AM
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Pretty crazy how submitting Tom Lawlor makes you an MMA submission machine. Phone Post
7/4/13 1:12 AM
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getting real tired of your shit UG.

Back to the OG.

7/4/13 1:23 AM
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Jake95 - getting real tired of your shit UG.

Back to the OG.

I can't even explain how truthful this is.




Until Saturday when Silva details this fucking hype train, I will head to the other ground for laughs and pics of hot chicks.




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7/4/13 1:23 AM
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omlet de fromage -
Jake95 - getting real tired of your shit UG.

Back to the OG.

I can't even explain how truthful this is.




Until Saturday when Silva details this fucking hype train, I will head to the other ground for laughs and pics of hot chicks.




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7/4/13 1:28 AM
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UGCTT_ Lay'n'PrayNINJA - I don't think we have enough data on Weidman to make a claim one way or another.

MMA BJJ we do know Anderson has submitted a few people who were rarely ever submitted at the time. Henderson has only ever been submitted by Andy and Nog brothers. Lutter at the time I don't think was ever submitted, or maybe once...iirc. Both are not easy people to submit.

Weidman couldn't submit sakara nor maia (not that anyone submits maia in MMA) Phone Post
Hendo was exhausted in the Nog fights and on queer street vs Andy. Even lutter was tired as hell with his half round gas tank. Phone Post
Stop making excuses.

Especially when they are not true. There was a solid minute or minute and a half between the shots that rocked hendo, and the choke. The greatest chin in MMA was not on queer street. Anderson used MMA bjj to submit Dan.

You could make the case that Lutter was wobbled, because he was, from an upkick that is part of MMA. Phone Post
7/4/13 1:33 AM
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Not that I think it will happen, but I would not be surprised if Andy submitted Weidman off his back.

I expect AS to KO him with a knee or two, but catching him in a triangle or armbar wouldn't surprise me.
7/4/13 2:22 AM
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UGCTT_ Lay'n'PrayNINJA -
TEN10TEN -
UGCTT_ Lay'n'PrayNINJA - I don't think we have enough data on Weidman to make a claim one way or another.

MMA BJJ we do know Anderson has submitted a few people who were rarely ever submitted at the time. Henderson has only ever been submitted by Andy and Nog brothers. Lutter at the time I don't think was ever submitted, or maybe once...iirc. Both are not easy people to submit.

Weidman couldn't submit sakara nor maia (not that anyone submits maia in MMA) Phone Post
Hendo was exhausted in the Nog fights and on queer street vs Andy. Even lutter was tired as hell with his half round gas tank. Phone Post
Stop making excuses.

Especially when they are not true. There was a solid minute or minute and a half between the shots that rocked hendo, and the choke. The greatest chin in MMA was not on queer street. Anderson used MMA bjj to submit Dan.

You could make the case that Lutter was wobbled, because he was, from an upkick that is part of MMA. Phone Post
Don't get so defensive. I'm just calling it as I see it.

The greatest chin doesn't matter against a barrage from Anderson. He was clearly not all there as Silva literally just reached up and grabbed his neck. It wasn't some masterful bj Penn technique working in the choke, Dan put up no defense. Arona had Dan's back and couldn't sub him from there. Great win for Andy but not a showcase of bjj. Phone Post
7/4/13 2:24 AM
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Silva to Weidman: this isn't ADCC, it's MMA Phone Post
7/4/13 10:23 AM
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Weidman submitted: Bongfeldt and Lawlor

Anderson submitted: Lutter and Henderson

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