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7/12/13 9:29 AM
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And for the record, I have no dog in this fight. I'm not a big fan of Silva, even though I really enjoy his fights, and I honestly don't recall a single Weidman fight I've watched prior to this one.

My only issue is that all of this talk about "luck" (Renzos comment), fading, Silva wanting to lose, etc detracts from the real point which is Weidman's masterful performance. IMO. Phone Post 3.0
7/12/13 10:25 AM
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What people like Renzo are missing is that Silva does that to almost ALL his opponents. Why is it different for this case? It isn't. The reality is that this time he actually fought a guy with reach who could actually kick his ass, and he did!

I honestly don't remember Anderson ever faking being hurt and doing that wobbly shit like he was doing, but yes he does taunt a lot. Phone Post
7/12/13 10:42 AM
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Jobe Watson the Gentleman - Good read. Phone Post
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7/12/13 4:02 PM
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Hikikomori - http://sportv.globo.com/site/combate/noticia/2013/07/renzo-critica-provocacoes-de-spider-nao-pode-diminuir-o-seu-oponente.html

"This kid [Weidman] is very dangerous, he was always very dangerous. Every time he fights, he wins. Early in the bout, when Chris was in control, he did everything he wanted, but couldn't win, so Anderson gained great confidence. He thought it would be a walk in the park and then he began to play. And the boy [Weidman] really was fading, he was tired because he did everything (pushing the pace) during the first round. He had side control, he was attacking... and when Anderson saw him fading, he thought: "Now I'm gonna give a show". The problem is that this sport is not the place for that. In this sport you have to win.
I'm sure the people who were in his corner said: "Go out there and win", but he decided to do what was on his mind, he was joking, shaking ... And if you notice, this kid has a very big star (luck). Whenever he is in trouble, he manages to win. When he attacked, Anderson lost his balance when he was mocking him, and had no way to defend himself. And then he got caught with a punch to the chin. And when that happens there's no way out, you go to sleep, your brain turns off.

"The longer the fight, the worst it would be to Chris, I was seeing it. He began to fade, but Anderson didn't manage to take [the fight] seriously. He began to mock Chris. It was over the top (exaggerated), because you can't belittle your opponent. If you're confident enough to do this kind of thing, go and finish the fight. Go for the KO or for the submission. You just can't stand there dancing and not go for the win. Are you gonna stay there to give a show to others?"

"I was [there] in the fight against Demian. Anderson's behavior in this fight (against Weidman) was worse. It was more aggressive and more insulting than on that occasion. The words he was using ... It was insulting ... And this is something he shouldn't do.
He is the champion, he is an example in the sport. He has a fantastic history as UFC fighter and should be respectful and act in a proper manner.
I gave an interview before the fight telling him to change his ways, but it didn't happen. Unfortunately, it's stuck in his soul and it comes out from there, right? And that's what caused his defeat today (it costed his victory).

"No doubt it affects you mentally. You're trying to fight, to attack the guy and he is dancing, he isn’t keeping his hands high, he lets you hit his face... that's a thing that really breaks you mentally. Chris had a break of pace, but not because of the way Anderson was fighting, but because he got tired, he was pushing the pace during the entire first round. And when you start like that, you need to slow down or the train derails".

"Anderson is a great champion, all he has to do is put his head in the right place and remember when he was a kid who was working hard in order to get where he is now, and be that boy again. When you begin to lose sight of who you are, you start to fall into traps like this. Life comes to collect”.
That was right on. Silva never even attempted to clown around in front of Vitor for good reason. Vitor was a real threat and too dangerous to not take seriously. From the get go, Silva was going for the kill if the opportunity present itself and it did.

Opportunity presented itself against Weidman but he felt that it is not yet time, and he felt that he needs to be an entertainer first rather than a fighter. Phone Post
7/12/13 4:39 PM
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This, anyone who watched the fight and doesn't agree is quite obtuse. Nothing Renzo said isn't obviously true.

hahahhaha he was absolutely NOT fading. You have to be kidding me.

Anderson was fading

thats why he started clowning
7/12/13 4:57 PM
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Renzo, having helped train Weidman for this fight, may have a better insight on what it looks like when he is starting to fade vs. when he is fresh. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

His points about Anderson are spot on though. I'd be interested to hear what it is exactly that Anderson was saying to Chris that Renzo found especially disrespectful (I'm assuming it was in Portuguese?).

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