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7/18/13 10:39 PM
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Really dislike this mentality -

"I'm gonna do something for you, without asking, then later on you have to be my buddy and make me a part of your life.....otherwise I'm gonna scream bloody murder"

These people are trying to run a business, you're making yourself a big pain in the ass. Like Shannon Knapp really wants to deal with your Youtube account.



Ouch.

 

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7/19/13 2:35 AM
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pegson123 -  YouTube has To be informed by the owner that they want the copyright enforced. Ppl are stupid. What. Do you think YouTube suddenly starts deciding what is copyright and what is not. Invicta had to of prompted YouTube to start enforcement. Phone Post

This is true. I run a fairly popular youtube page and have dealt with them for awhile.

Youtube doesn't give a fuck about copyright. In fact, videos that are infringing copyright are usually the ones that get the most views and youtube makes money from that.

Youtube takes them down when they have to. Many videos are on youtube that have no right being there, but the companies who own the rights just don't bother to file a copyright claim.

There is a lot of money to be made on youtube and youtube takes a cut of that money. The money I make every month, they take like 10-15% of it. They benefit when videos are left on that could be taken down.

The problem is, for them and those who post these videos, that the law requires them to comply and take them down.

There is absolutely no motive for youtube to take down videos that infringe on the copyright of other people. They don't care at all. The only time they care is when their hand is forced to do it.

You're wrong on this. It's true they benefit from copyright infringement. But they get sued every other day by companies over this shit. They have to be vigilant, or at least be able to show they're trying to stop it. I have no doubt that both google and copyright owners have automated processes that try to track down infringed IP. I've had random family videos taken down because of a snippet of music that was in the background. I doubt someone from Warner Bros. actually watched the whole ten minute video of kids play soccer just so they could hear a twenty second clip of background music they own and flag the video. Even if that wasn't the case, if some anti-wmma guy decided to flag it, it would get taken down just the same. If you don't believe me, post a link of your youtube page and I'll show you how fast and easy it is to get someone's youtube page shut down get you banned from adsense without being a copyright owner.
7/19/13 2:45 AM
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Instead of blasting them, get Shannon to email YouTube and remove the strike(s). Super easy to do and it will restore your channel. Phone Post 3.0
7/19/13 6:37 AM
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7/19/13 7:53 AM
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MRXC - But, but WMMA is the greatest thing ever. Every fight is the most exciting fight I've ever seen. Shannon Knapp is my hero. Every other MMA company should put on cards like Invicta. But, but.

Typical promoter BS.

If Bjorn did this people would go on and on for a month like he kicked their dog.

Bjorn wouldn't kick anyone's dog.

That is ludicrous.

He'd drive a spike through it's head.
7/19/13 8:17 AM
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lol at zombie reacting like a 12 year old girl. I assume this so I'm gonna cry and slander them to EVERYONE. Phone Post 3.0
7/19/13 10:26 AM
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Good. He's a cunt anyway. 


Thats rich.

It's truth. GIFing events then throwing up water marks bigger than The Garv's and making money off it acting like he was apart ofthe production? Fuck that dude. 

You did read that he helped them all out for free, right? Phone Post
7/19/13 10:46 AM
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Ungrateful bastards. Phone Post
7/19/13 2:53 PM
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ZP is wound too tight.  Twitter shit-talks with everybody.

 

Plus anybody who puts this on their title page for Twitter "DOUCHEBAGS GET BLOCKED!" clearly has issues.

Yep. Cry baby bitch. Blocked me for making a joke last year about some random thing.. He didnt understand the joke and blocked me. Lol Phone Post 3.0
7/19/13 2:56 PM
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Good. He's a cunt anyway. 


Thats rich.

It's truth. GIFing events then throwing up water marks bigger than The Garv's and making money off it acting like he was apart ofthe production? Fuck that dude. 


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7/19/13 6:01 PM
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Joe Lauzon - Instead of blasting them, get Shannon to email YouTube and remove the strike(s). Super easy to do and it will restore your channel. Phone Post 3.0

This

You can cancel claims on youtube and they will remove the strike.

7/19/13 7:43 PM
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ZP is wound too tight.  Twitter shit-talks with everybody.

 

Plus anybody who puts this on their title page for Twitter "DOUCHEBAGS GET BLOCKED!" clearly has issues.

Yep. Cry baby bitch. Blocked me for making a joke last year about some random thing.. He didnt understand the joke and blocked me. Lol Phone Post 3.0
Maybe, but the guy is fucking consistently good with getting quality .gifs up in real time.

His watermark never bothered me, and it's one of those things where if you don't put a watermark, your hard work gets stolen and claimed by some random asshole. I get wanting to protect his shit. Hey, it's gotten him a job at bloodyelbow, so whatever he's doing is clearly working. Phone Post

You realize that ZP claims other peoples work right? I appreciate that his gifs are fast and usually the best quality, but in the end he's cutting up other peoples work and putting a water mark on it. There isn't a whole lot or room to get all huffy about theft here.
7/19/13 7:55 PM
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It looks like ZP may have jumped the gun and owes them an apology. 

7/19/13 9:07 PM
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ZP is wound too tight.  Twitter shit-talks with everybody.

 

Plus anybody who puts this on their title page for Twitter "DOUCHEBAGS GET BLOCKED!" clearly has issues.

Yep. Cry baby bitch. Blocked me for making a joke last year about some random thing.. He didnt understand the joke and blocked me. Lol Phone Post 3.0
Maybe, but the guy is fucking consistently good with getting quality .gifs up in real time.

His watermark never bothered me, and it's one of those things where if you don't put a watermark, your hard work gets stolen and claimed by some random asshole. I get wanting to protect his shit. Hey, it's gotten him a job at bloodyelbow, so whatever he's doing is clearly working. Phone Post

You realize that ZP claims other peoples work right? I appreciate that his gifs are fast and usually the best quality, but in the end he's cutting up other peoples work and putting a water mark on it. There isn't a whole lot or room to get all huffy about theft here.
Answer honestly - have you ever made a .gif before? Once you get used to it, it can be relatively straightforward, but it takes getting used to because of where exactly you choose to stop it, how long it is, how bog the file is, if you add any of your own effects to it (e.g. slow-mo or picture quality improvements).

Then, you have a size issue with uploads. Most sites have a 5 Mb limit, which can be a pain in the ass with longer .gifs. Then, it depends on what program you're using. I always used Photoshop cs6, which is a bitch and a half to get used to.

Anyway, my point is that the shit takes time and effort and can be very fucking frustrating at times. And ZP always has top-quality .gifs out almost right after the fight, which is really fucking impressive.

If it were easy, there would be a lot more people doing it. Ask the UG's own jar of flies how frustrating the process can be sometimes. When you finally get done editing the perfect .gif and adding any effects, you sure as shit don't want someone stealing your hard work. Phone Post
But of other peoples stuff.

Quality, but theft. Dont trayvon this up. Phone Post
7/19/13 9:22 PM
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Making Gifs
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7/19/13 10:25 PM
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7/19/13 10:28 PM
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Boo hoo.
"I ripped video, made gifs and found a metalink once, because of this, these people should kiss my feet!"
At least when I rip Invicta's fights, I upload them in HD. ZP's stuff is mostly low-res shit with crushed aspect ratios. Pathetic.
And the fact he puts his watermarks on it. Sad. Just sad. Doing this stuff for recognition rather than love of the sport is terrible.
IT'S SOMEBODY ELSES HARD WORK. INVICTA'S. The fact that Shannon Knapp spent ONE SECOND of her time dealing with this internet loser makes me sick.
7/19/13 11:38 PM
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mma interpreter -  Lol @ "don't Trayvon this up".

The guy gets paid to make gifs. I'd want to protect them, too. Phone Post

Who pays him???

 

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7/20/13 12:08 AM
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The guy gets paid to make gifs. I'd want to protect them, too. Phone Post

Who pays him???

 

Cindy

I'm pretty sure Bloody Elbow does, but I could be wrong. Phone Post

You're saying BE pays him (Zombie) to rip off Invicta's gifs, apply his watermark, and then upload them for profit? GTFO!!! This thread is so embarrassing and is in really poor taste and it makes ZP look like an idiot, IMO, and I like his work. But Shannon is incredibly kind and nice but not even she will take bullshit like this (his attitude expressed in the first post).

 

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7/20/13 1:40 AM
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He went ape shit on me in a email, after I said piracy is illegal on one of his threads here.
7/20/13 1:43 AM
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Zombie prophet u still the man. Sad about iron forges iron but nice to have met you man and a pleasure to have worked with u. Phone Post
7/20/13 3:35 AM
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ZP is wound too tight.  Twitter shit-talks with everybody.

 

Plus anybody who puts this on their title page for Twitter "DOUCHEBAGS GET BLOCKED!" clearly has issues.

Yep. Cry baby bitch. Blocked me for making a joke last year about some random thing.. He didnt understand the joke and blocked me. Lol Phone Post 3.0
Maybe, but the guy is fucking consistently good with getting quality .gifs up in real time.

His watermark never bothered me, and it's one of those things where if you don't put a watermark, your hard work gets stolen and claimed by some random asshole. I get wanting to protect his shit. Hey, it's gotten him a job at bloodyelbow, so whatever he's doing is clearly working. Phone Post

You realize that ZP claims other peoples work right? I appreciate that his gifs are fast and usually the best quality, but in the end he's cutting up other peoples work and putting a water mark on it. There isn't a whole lot or room to get all huffy about theft here.
Answer honestly - have you ever made a .gif before? Once you get used to it, it can be relatively straightforward, but it takes getting used to because of where exactly you choose to stop it, how long it is, how bog the file is, if you add any of your own effects to it (e.g. slow-mo or picture quality improvements).

Then, you have a size issue with uploads. Most sites have a 5 Mb limit, which can be a pain in the ass with longer .gifs. Then, it depends on what program you're using. I always used Photoshop cs6, which is a bitch and a half to get used to.

Anyway, my point is that the shit takes time and effort and can be very fucking frustrating at times. And ZP always has top-quality .gifs out almost right after the fight, which is really fucking impressive.

If it were easy, there would be a lot more people doing it. Ask the UG's own jar of flies how frustrating the process can be sometimes. When you finally get done editing the perfect .gif and adding any effects, you sure as shit don't want someone stealing your hard work. Phone Post

Yes, many. Under higher constraints that ZP has so I know what the struggle is. That has nothing to do with what I said. I said I appreciate what he does, but he has no room to cry about theft.
7/20/13 4:01 AM
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The guy gets paid to make gifs. I'd want to protect them, too. Phone Post

Who pays him???

 

Cindy

I'm pretty sure Bloody Elbow does, but I could be wrong. Phone Post

You're saying BE pays him (Zombie) to rip off Invicta's gifs, apply his watermark, and then upload them for profit? GTFO!!! This thread is so embarrassing and is in really poor taste and it makes ZP look like an idiot, IMO, and I like his work. But Shannon is incredibly kind and nice but not even she will take bullshit like this (his attitude expressed in the first post).

 

Cindy

No, I'm saying that I'm pretty sure BE pays him, as he is their "media" guy (he has an official title, just don't remember what). I also said I could be wrong.

You know, I'm beginning to see why you're so controversial on this forum. You should probably give people the benefit of the doubt and try being a bit more humble. The truth is, I don't know if what he does is illegal or not. I've seen him saying that it's not as .gifs are seen as "promotion" and not stealing, but I could be completely wrong.

I think that as his job as media whatever at BE, he gets paid for his work, some of that being gif-making. Again, I COULD VERY WELL BE WRONG, and I'm ok with that.



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No, I'm saying that I'm pretty sure BE pays him, as he is their "media" guy (he has an official title, just don't remember what). I also said I could be wrong.

OK, so you think BE pays him but only maybe, but you're not sure if they pay him for the Invicta GIFs, you don't think, officially or something. Got it:/

You know, I'm beginning to see why you're so controversial on this forum. You should probably give people the benefit of the doubt and try being a bit more humble.

LMFAO!!! Humble about what? I said screw it and picked up the phone and asked her myself. LOL@ benefit of the doubt! He acted like a bitch and she tore him up, if you want to know what happened. Ask him what she said if you want to know.

The truth is, I don't know if what he does is illegal or not. I've seen him saying that it's not as .gifs are seen as "promotion" and not stealing, but I could be completely wrong.

You are;)

I think that as his job as media whatever at BE, he gets paid for his work, some of that being gif-making. Again, I COULD VERY WELL BE WRONG, and I'm ok with that.

So you're saying you shouldn't have associated Bloody Elbow with his rant on Invicta because you don't know if they even know about this situation, let alone paid him to do it, or benefitted from it. Got it.

But you DO know that you must be dumb as shit if you think you can post the complete main event fight from a company's first PPV and upload it to your site for free while it is hours old and readily available $14.95, don't you? He didn't get in trouble for his gifs- he uploaded Cyborg VS Coenen. I guarantee BE had nothing to do with that stupidity.

 

Cindy

 

7/20/13 4:04 AM
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I loved IFI and am a huge fan of his work when it would be linked here. They guy had everything! But this is all over him downloading the main event fight of a PPV. That's just dumb to get upset about even it if led to his channel being blocked or whatever. He was wrong and he went off like a child instead of going to the source.

 

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The guy gets paid to make gifs. I'd want to protect them, too. Phone Post

Who pays him???

 

Cindy

I'm pretty sure Bloody Elbow does, but I could be wrong. Phone Post

You're saying BE pays him (Zombie) to rip off Invicta's gifs, apply his watermark, and then upload them for profit? GTFO!!! This thread is so embarrassing and is in really poor taste and it makes ZP look like an idiot, IMO, and I like his work. But Shannon is incredibly kind and nice but not even she will take bullshit like this (his attitude expressed in the first post).

 

Cindy

No, I'm saying that I'm pretty sure BE pays him, as he is their "media" guy (he has an official title, just don't remember what). I also said I could be wrong.

You know, I'm beginning to see why you're so controversial on this forum. You should probably give people the benefit of the doubt and try being a bit more humble. The truth is, I don't know if what he does is illegal or not. I've seen him saying that it's not as .gifs are seen as "promotion" and not stealing, but I could be completely wrong.

I think that as his job as media whatever at BE, he gets paid for his work, some of that being gif-making. Again, I COULD VERY WELL BE WRONG, and I'm ok with that.



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dont talk to my girlfriend like that, she's not controversial just misunderstood.










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