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7/22/13 2:43 AM
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tenchu - "The wrestler would get knocked out before they shot. I've already explained a dozen fucking times why that would happen. Before the fight even starts the wrestler would get hit hard with some seriously powerful and accurate shots straight to the chin. "

People made this assumption before the UFC and got a rude awakening.

Easier said than done.
You talk of the cage not the street. I've mentioned that many times. You are PREPARED in the cage to do what you have to do to win. The street is a different animal. Phone Post 3.0
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Piyo - As a person with about a dozen MMA fights and lots of sparring experience in boxing gyms...Rogan is correct. Any D1 wrestler beats Floyd nine times out of ten in the street or cage.

Nothing against boxing...I think boxers are crazy tough athletes and very impressive. It's just that, when comparing their pure forms, wrestling is simply superior for fighting. That's it.

Your wrong about the street. Plain and simple.

No he's not. Unless you're taking into account angry homies coming up and stomping you in the back of the head while you're busy wrestlefucking the boxer, or the boxer getting lucky terrain-wise and getting in extra shots while he's bracing against the wall or a counter and you can't complete the TD before you are rocked or something.

But there's no reason, standing the middle of a street, that a D1 wrestler shouldn't be able to put a high level boxer on their back before they get KO'ed 9/10 times. In fact I'd say the wrestler has an advantage in the street vs a ring/cage, getting smashed onto pavement's going to be a lot more dangerous than getting smashed onto a cage or ring canvas.

The wrestling shot is not faster than Floy'd fist....not in ANY universe.

Because Floyd is a KO artist or something? Most of his fights go to decision. It's not a question of whether Floyd could hit him during the takedown, it's a question of whether he could finish him before the takedown is completed.
Shut up. Look at how he KO'd another elite professional boxer that is Victor Ortiz with one to two punches with fucking gloves on. Now imagine bare knuckles. That is EXACTLY what would happen on the street 9/10 to anyone including MMA fighters and wrestlers. He'd simply throw a combination like that whilst the other guy is vulnerable and unable to respond with other SLOWER moves. Phone Post 3.0
7/22/13 2:51 AM
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Piyo - As a person with about a dozen MMA fights and lots of sparring experience in boxing gyms...Rogan is correct. Any D1 wrestler beats Floyd nine times out of ten in the street or cage.

Nothing against boxing...I think boxers are crazy tough athletes and very impressive. It's just that, when comparing their pure forms, wrestling is simply superior for fighting. That's it.

Your wrong about the street. Plain and simple.

No he's not. Unless you're taking into account angry homies coming up and stomping you in the back of the head while you're busy wrestlefucking the boxer, or the boxer getting lucky terrain-wise and getting in extra shots while he's bracing against the wall or a counter and you can't complete the TD before you are rocked or something.

But there's no reason, standing the middle of a street, that a D1 wrestler shouldn't be able to put a high level boxer on their back before they get KO'ed 9/10 times. In fact I'd say the wrestler has an advantage in the street vs a ring/cage, getting smashed onto pavement's going to be a lot more dangerous than getting smashed onto a cage or ring canvas.
The wrestler would get knocked out before they shot. I've already explained a dozen fucking times why that would happen. Before the fight even starts the wrestler would get hit hard with some seriously powerful and accurate shots straight to the chin.

The boxers punches are simply much faster than the wrestlers takedowns. A realistic and likely scenario would be that two guys who don't know each other are in a pub. One is a professional boxer and the other is an elite wrestler, the wrestler starts talking shit to the boxer and they both square up shoving each other. In a split second the boxer unleashes a combination from hell straight to the chin RIGHT before the wrestler shoots (unlikely anyway as he knows he's in a crowded area and wouldn't even know the other guys a boxer and subsequently expect he'd be able to knock him out with his power). My point is that people tend to throw punches in the street before anything else, not fucking double legs where someones friends can easily stomp the shit out of you. And who can throw punches better than a boxer Your wrong. Simple as that. Phone Post 3.0

I guess I assumed this was a fair encounter where we were assuming they both attacked at the same time. If we're assuming the boxer attacks first and the wrestler responds, sure it's going to help them, but still, he's going to need to clean KO said wrestler with that first flurry, because any D1 wrestler is going to have drilled that takedown thousands of times and won't have a problem carrying it out while dazes (believe it or not, people get concussions wrestling too).

If we're going to talk about likelihoods given the angry homies stomping you in the head aspect, that changes everything, but I also thought we were at least trying to keep this relevant to Rogan's comments, rather than assuming the boxer had a gang of friends with him.
A fair encounter? This isn't the cage my friend or an MMA fight on the pavement. I'm simply talking about the most common street fight scenarios. Scenarios where boxing is king over MMA and the like. Phone Post 3.0
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GSPsShadyHandWraps - "I know him, the guys a freak athlete no doubt about it. But he's still a fucking wrestler, how do we know he can take successive hard shots to the chin."

He has boxing experience. His dad was an amature boxer


His dad was an ammy boxer...his dad has boxing experience.


What boxing experience does Karelin have ? Hitting the mits that his dad was holding ?

What good or even decent HW pro or even ammy boxers did Karelin spar with and look even OK against ?

How is Karelin's striking defense ? How does he react when someone with TRUE KO power is throwing bombs at his head and body ?

So now Karelin needs to be sparring against the Klitschkos to be able to take 5,8 150 pound soaking wet Floyds "true KO" power?

Or was that a weak ass strawman argument from your buttscooting ass? Shut your mouth and go bring me a frappacino

7/22/13 4:32 AM
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GSPsShadyHandWraps - "I know him, the guys a freak athlete no doubt about it. But he's still a fucking wrestler, how do we know he can take successive hard shots to the chin."

He has boxing experience. His dad was an amature boxer


His dad was an ammy boxer...his dad has boxing experience.


What boxing experience does Karelin have ? Hitting the mits that his dad was holding ?

What good or even decent HW pro or even ammy boxers did Karelin spar with and look even OK against ?

How is Karelin's striking defense ? How does he react when someone with TRUE KO power is throwing bombs at his head and body ?

So now Karelin needs to be sparring against the Klitschkos to be able to take 5,8 150 pound soaking wet Floyds "true KO" power?

Or was that a weak ass strawman argument from your buttscooting ass? Shut your mouth and go bring me a frappacino


Wrestlers aren't trained to be able to take punches, let alone a fast, hard, accurate combination to the chin by the P4P best boxer on the planet. Shut your mouth and makes me some sandwiches bitch.
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tenchu - "The wrestler would get knocked out before they shot. I've already explained a dozen fucking times why that would happen. Before the fight even starts the wrestler would get hit hard with some seriously powerful and accurate shots straight to the chin. "

People made this assumption before the UFC and got a rude awakening.

Easier said than done.
You talk of the cage not the street. I've mentioned that many times. You are PREPARED in the cage to do what you have to do to win. The street is a different animal. Phone Post 3.0

How is someone who trains MMA any less "prepared" for a fight than someone who trains straight boxing? GSP puts in plenty of time in boxing gyms. You claim it takes "one punch" to end a fight. What if it's Johnny Hendricks throwing the first punch?

Why aren't people in the military trained to do straight boxing compared to what they're actually being taught. You claim street effective fighting, how much more street can you get than war? These guys are taught - kicks, punches, throws, chokes, weapons, clinching, grappling.. Sounds a lot like MMA to me.
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tenchu - "The wrestler would get knocked out before they shot. I've already explained a dozen fucking times why that would happen. Before the fight even starts the wrestler would get hit hard with some seriously powerful and accurate shots straight to the chin. "

People made this assumption before the UFC and got a rude awakening.

Easier said than done.
You talk of the cage not the street. I've mentioned that many times. You are PREPARED in the cage to do what you have to do to win. The street is a different animal. Phone Post 3.0

How is someone who trains MMA any less "prepared" for a fight than someone who trains straight boxing? GSP puts in plenty of time in boxing gyms. You claim it takes "one punch" to end a fight. What if it's Johnny Hendricks throwing the first punch?

Why aren't people in the military trained to do straight boxing compared to what they're actually being taught. You claim street effective fighting, how much more street can you get than war? These guys are taught - kicks, punches, throws, chokes, weapons, clinching, grappling.. Sounds a lot like MMA to me.

Thats not what I was saying. My point was that in the cage an MMA fighter whom knows he's fighting a boxer would be mentally prepared in that he KNOWS what he has to do win the fight i.e take him down. In the street this would almost always not be the case. The MMA fighter would very likely try and box the boxer as its the easiest and most efficient way to end a fight in the street and he has no reason to believe he would need to rely on his other skills. This would 9/10 get the MMA fighter knocked out.

Also what the fuck does the military training system have to do with the street. Your talking about war buddy, which is also a completely different animal. Believe it or not but most guys in the military can't fight unarmed for shit, they simply don't need it 99% of the time. Why do they train MMA? I guess because it covers all aspects of fighting, not because its more useful in the street...
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tenchu - "The wrestler would get knocked out before they shot. I've already explained a dozen fucking times why that would happen. Before the fight even starts the wrestler would get hit hard with some seriously powerful and accurate shots straight to the chin. "

People made this assumption before the UFC and got a rude awakening.

Easier said than done.
You talk of the cage not the street. I've mentioned that many times. You are PREPARED in the cage to do what you have to do to win. The street is a different animal. Phone Post 3.0

How is someone who trains MMA any less "prepared" for a fight than someone who trains straight boxing? GSP puts in plenty of time in boxing gyms. You claim it takes "one punch" to end a fight. What if it's Johnny Hendricks throwing the first punch?

Why aren't people in the military trained to do straight boxing compared to what they're actually being taught. You claim street effective fighting, how much more street can you get than war? These guys are taught - kicks, punches, throws, chokes, weapons, clinching, grappling.. Sounds a lot like MMA to me.

By the way you said, "What if it's Johnny Hendricks throwing the first punch?". This shows what a complete moron you are. Johnny Hendricks can't punch to save his fucking life if you compare him to professional boxers. The only reason he's knocked out various high level MMA fighters is because they, like him have D level defensive boxing skills. Put him in the boxing ring and see him looks like a fool.

In the street he would likely throw a massive looping overhand right, where the boxer would slip it and counter with a sweet combination straight to the chin.
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GSPsShadyHandWraps - "I know him, the guys a freak athlete no doubt about it. But he's still a fucking wrestler, how do we know he can take successive hard shots to the chin."

He has boxing experience. His dad was an amature boxer


His dad was an ammy boxer...his dad has boxing experience.


What boxing experience does Karelin have ? Hitting the mits that his dad was holding ?

What good or even decent HW pro or even ammy boxers did Karelin spar with and look even OK against ?

How is Karelin's striking defense ? How does he react when someone with TRUE KO power is throwing bombs at his head and body ?

So now Karelin needs to be sparring against the Klitschkos to be able to take 5,8 150 pound soaking wet Floyds "true KO" power?

Or was that a weak ass strawman argument from your buttscooting ass? Shut your mouth and go bring me a frappacino


Wrestlers aren't trained to be able to take punches, let alone a fast, hard, accurate combination to the chin by the P4P best boxer on the planet. Shut your mouth and makes me some sandwiches bitch.

Could Lil Floyd even reach Karelins chin? The muthafucka would have to do a street fighter style Dragon Punch

I was with you when it was about the same size. But Floyd is on lidocain all the time for his hand problems, he aint KOing a 300 pounder with a neck the size of a fire hydrant


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tenchu - "The wrestler would get knocked out before they shot. I've already explained a dozen fucking times why that would happen. Before the fight even starts the wrestler would get hit hard with some seriously powerful and accurate shots straight to the chin. "

People made this assumption before the UFC and got a rude awakening.

Easier said than done.
You talk of the cage not the street. I've mentioned that many times. You are PREPARED in the cage to do what you have to do to win. The street is a different animal. Phone Post 3.0

How is someone who trains MMA any less "prepared" for a fight than someone who trains straight boxing? GSP puts in plenty of time in boxing gyms. You claim it takes "one punch" to end a fight. What if it's Johnny Hendricks throwing the first punch?

Why aren't people in the military trained to do straight boxing compared to what they're actually being taught. You claim street effective fighting, how much more street can you get than war? These guys are taught - kicks, punches, throws, chokes, weapons, clinching, grappling.. Sounds a lot like MMA to me.

Thats not what I was saying. My point was that in the cage an MMA fighter whom knows he's fighting a boxer would be mentally prepared in that he KNOWS what he has to do win the fight i.e take him down. In the street this would almost always not be the case. The MMA fighter would very likely try and box the boxer as its the easiest and most efficient way to end a fight in the street and he has no reason to believe he would need to rely on his other skills. This would 9/10 get the MMA fighter knocked out.

Also what the fuck does the military training system have to do with the street. Your talking about war buddy, which is also a completely different animal. Believe it or not but most guys in the military can't fight unarmed for shit, they simply don't need it 99% of the time. Why do they train MMA? I guess because it covers all aspects of fighting, not because its more useful in the street...

You're drunk, trolling, or limited mentally somehow. You can't even stick to your own argument. The street does = war being that both situations are uncontrolled environments. I've never seen a group of Marines lose a street fight, bar fight, whatever.. I have a hard time believing they "can't fight unarmed for shit." Why do they train MMA? Because it's more useful for the street/war than strictly BOXING ALONE.

So, what now there's multiple levels of combat you want to differentiate? Cage vs street vs war?

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Piyo - As a person with about a dozen MMA fights and lots of sparring experience in boxing gyms...Rogan is correct. Any D1 wrestler beats Floyd nine times out of ten in the street or cage.

Nothing against boxing...I think boxers are crazy tough athletes and very impressive. It's just that, when comparing their pure forms, wrestling is simply superior for fighting. That's it.

Your wrong about the street. Plain and simple.

No he's not. Unless you're taking into account angry homies coming up and stomping you in the back of the head while you're busy wrestlefucking the boxer, or the boxer getting lucky terrain-wise and getting in extra shots while he's bracing against the wall or a counter and you can't complete the TD before you are rocked or something.

But there's no reason, standing the middle of a street, that a D1 wrestler shouldn't be able to put a high level boxer on their back before they get KO'ed 9/10 times. In fact I'd say the wrestler has an advantage in the street vs a ring/cage, getting smashed onto pavement's going to be a lot more dangerous than getting smashed onto a cage or ring canvas.

The wrestling shot is not faster than Floy'd fist....not in ANY universe.

Because Floyd is a KO artist or something? Most of his fights go to decision. It's not a question of whether Floyd could hit him during the takedown, it's a question of whether he could finish him before the takedown is completed.
Shut up. Look at how he KO'd another elite professional boxer that is Victor Ortiz with one to two punches with fucking gloves on. Now imagine bare knuckles. That is EXACTLY what would happen on the street 9/10 to anyone including MMA fighters and wrestlers. He'd simply throw a combination like that whilst the other guy is vulnerable and unable to respond with other SLOWER moves. Phone Post 3.0
This is some presumptuous bullshit right here. What a stupid thing to base on argument on.

"Oh yeah, well the boxer would definitely punch first"

Retarded Phone Post 3.0
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Piyo - As a person with about a dozen MMA fights and lots of sparring experience in boxing gyms...Rogan is correct. Any D1 wrestler beats Floyd nine times out of ten in the street or cage.

Nothing against boxing...I think boxers are crazy tough athletes and very impressive. It's just that, when comparing their pure forms, wrestling is simply superior for fighting. That's it.

Your wrong about the street. Plain and simple.

No he's not. Unless you're taking into account angry homies coming up and stomping you in the back of the head while you're busy wrestlefucking the boxer, or the boxer getting lucky terrain-wise and getting in extra shots while he's bracing against the wall or a counter and you can't complete the TD before you are rocked or something.

But there's no reason, standing the middle of a street, that a D1 wrestler shouldn't be able to put a high level boxer on their back before they get KO'ed 9/10 times. In fact I'd say the wrestler has an advantage in the street vs a ring/cage, getting smashed onto pavement's going to be a lot more dangerous than getting smashed onto a cage or ring canvas.

The wrestling shot is not faster than Floy'd fist....not in ANY universe.

Because Floyd is a KO artist or something? Most of his fights go to decision. It's not a question of whether Floyd could hit him during the takedown, it's a question of whether he could finish him before the takedown is completed.
Shut up. Look at how he KO'd another elite professional boxer that is Victor Ortiz with one to two punches with fucking gloves on. Now imagine bare knuckles. That is EXACTLY what would happen on the street 9/10 to anyone including MMA fighters and wrestlers. He'd simply throw a combination like that whilst the other guy is vulnerable and unable to respond with other SLOWER moves. Phone Post 3.0
This is some presumptuous bullshit right here. What a stupid thing to base on argument on.

"Oh yeah, well the boxer would definitely punch first"

Retarded Phone Post 3.0
How the hell is that retarded. Who can punch and evade punches faster? A boxer or a MMA fighter/wrestler? Street fights always start standing and very often in punching range. AT LEAST 7/10 the MMA fighter gets knocked out before he can respond with other moves such as a double leg. Don't talk shit. Phone Post 3.0
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Piyo - As a person with about a dozen MMA fights and lots of sparring experience in boxing gyms...Rogan is correct. Any D1 wrestler beats Floyd nine times out of ten in the street or cage.

Nothing against boxing...I think boxers are crazy tough athletes and very impressive. It's just that, when comparing their pure forms, wrestling is simply superior for fighting. That's it.

Your wrong about the street. Plain and simple.

No he's not. Unless you're taking into account angry homies coming up and stomping you in the back of the head while you're busy wrestlefucking the boxer, or the boxer getting lucky terrain-wise and getting in extra shots while he's bracing against the wall or a counter and you can't complete the TD before you are rocked or something.

But there's no reason, standing the middle of a street, that a D1 wrestler shouldn't be able to put a high level boxer on their back before they get KO'ed 9/10 times. In fact I'd say the wrestler has an advantage in the street vs a ring/cage, getting smashed onto pavement's going to be a lot more dangerous than getting smashed onto a cage or ring canvas.

The wrestling shot is not faster than Floy'd fist....not in ANY universe.

Because Floyd is a KO artist or something? Most of his fights go to decision. It's not a question of whether Floyd could hit him during the takedown, it's a question of whether he could finish him before the takedown is completed.
Shut up. Look at how he KO'd another elite professional boxer that is Victor Ortiz with one to two punches with fucking gloves on. Now imagine bare knuckles. That is EXACTLY what would happen on the street 9/10 to anyone including MMA fighters and wrestlers. He'd simply throw a combination like that whilst the other guy is vulnerable and unable to respond with other SLOWER moves. Phone Post 3.0
This is some presumptuous bullshit right here. What a stupid thing to base on argument on.

"Oh yeah, well the boxer would definitely punch first"

Retarded Phone Post 3.0
How the hell is that retarded. Who can punch and evade punches faster? A boxer or a MMA fighter/wrestler? Street fights always start standing and very often in punching range. AT LEAST 7/10 the MMA fighter gets knocked out before he can respond with other moves such as a double leg. Don't talk shit. Phone Post 3.0
You are making a completely ridiculous argument. You are essentially saying a boxer would win because he would definitely sucker punch a wrestler. How can you not see how stupid that is? Phone Post 3.0
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Now that I'm thinking about it, you're clearly trolling. No one is that stupid. Well done, you got me. Phone Post 3.0
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Ok so sucker punch > wrestling... What about the sucker powerdouble?

No can defend? or yes can defend? YOU DECIDE!
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Animal Mother - Now that I'm thinking about it, you're clearly trolling. No one is that stupid. Well done, you got me. Phone Post 3.0
I'm not trolling buddy. I'm simply stating that a combination to the chin by a boxer is a lot faster than a double from a wrestler. Therefore it's more than likely the boxer wins the fight based on the act that all fights start standing and most in punching range as people tend to square up. Yes I'm making assumptions but how else can I explain the reality.

I think your the one trolling. Phone Post 3.0
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ryans - Ok so sucker punch > wrestling... What about the sucker powerdouble?

No can defend? or yes can defend? YOU DECIDE!
Take the piss as much as you want. I never said boxing was more useful than wrestling for a 1 vs 1 organised fight. What I'm saying is boxing is the BEST style for the street.

It gets the fucking job done faster than anything else and doesn't put you in danger like wrestling or BJJ. Even MMA fighters tend to box in the street, thats why Tito Ortiz got knocked out by Lee Murray with about two punches you fucking moron. Of course Lee would get killed by Tito in the cage but the street is different. Now imagine what a boxer would do to Lee Murray. Phone Post 3.0
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Animal Mother - Now that I'm thinking about it, you're clearly trolling. No one is that stupid. Well done, you got me. Phone Post 3.0
You resort to calling me a troll because you have no valid argument against what I'm saying. Phone Post 3.0
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Animal Mother - Now that I'm thinking about it, you're clearly trolling. No one is that stupid. Well done, you got me. Phone Post 3.0
I'm not trolling buddy. I'm simply stating that a combination to the chin by a boxer is a lot faster than a double from a wrestler. Therefore it's more than likely the boxer wins the fight based on the act that all fights start standing and most in punching range as people tend to square up. Yes I'm making assumptions but how else can I explain the reality.

I think your the one trolling. Phone Post 3.0
You're not explaining any reality but the lack there of in your own head. This has been established long ago, I'm sorry it hurts your feelings. Phone Post 3.0
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ryans - Ok so sucker punch > wrestling... What about the sucker powerdouble?

No can defend? or yes can defend? YOU DECIDE!
Take the piss as much as you want. I never said boxing was more useful than wrestling for a 1 vs 1 organised fight. What I'm saying is boxing is the BEST style for the street.

It gets the fucking job done faster than anything else and doesn't put you in danger like wrestling or BJJ. Even MMA fighters tend to box in the street, thats why Tito Ortiz got knocked out by Lee Murray with about two punches you fucking moron. Of course Lee would get killed by Tito in the cage but the street is different. Now imagine what a boxer would do to Lee Murray. Phone Post 3.0
Now there we have it. You're upset because you're a Brit and you guys can't wrestle for shit. I'm willing to bet PBF can't sprawl on a d3 wrestler let alone a d1, he'll maybe even a high school state champ. Then again you can't have a knowledgeable opinion on this because discussing wrestling with a Brit is like explaining well, wrestling to a Brit. Phone Post 3.0
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ryans - Ok so sucker punch > wrestling... What about the sucker powerdouble?

No can defend? or yes can defend? YOU DECIDE!
Take the piss as much as you want. I never said boxing was more useful than wrestling for a 1 vs 1 organised fight. What I'm saying is boxing is the BEST style for the street.

It gets the fucking job done faster than anything else and doesn't put you in danger like wrestling or BJJ. Even MMA fighters tend to box in the street, thats why Tito Ortiz got knocked out by Lee Murray with about two punches you fucking moron. Of course Lee would get killed by Tito in the cage but the street is different. Now imagine what a boxer would do to Lee Murray. Phone Post 3.0
Now there we have it. You're upset because you're a Brit and you guys can't wrestle for shit. I'm willing to bet PBF can't sprawl on a d3 wrestler let alone a d1, he'll maybe even a high school state champ. Then again you can't have a knowledgeable opinion on this because discussing wrestling with a Brit is like explaining well, wrestling to a Brit. Phone Post 3.0
I've trained MMA for two years at a top MMA gym home to UFC fighters. I've also been in numerous street fights and have relied on nothing but my boxing. So I'm not bias in my comments at all. Phone Post 3.0
7/22/13 11:34 AM
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ryans - Ok so sucker punch > wrestling... What about the sucker powerdouble?

No can defend? or yes can defend? YOU DECIDE!
Take the piss as much as you want. I never said boxing was more useful than wrestling for a 1 vs 1 organised fight. What I'm saying is boxing is the BEST style for the street.

It gets the fucking job done faster than anything else and doesn't put you in danger like wrestling or BJJ. Even MMA fighters tend to box in the street, thats why Tito Ortiz got knocked out by Lee Murray with about two punches you fucking moron. Of course Lee would get killed by Tito in the cage but the street is different. Now imagine what a boxer would do to Lee Murray. Phone Post 3.0
Now there we have it. You're upset because you're a Brit and you guys can't wrestle for shit. I'm willing to bet PBF can't sprawl on a d3 wrestler let alone a d1, he'll maybe even a high school state champ. Then again you can't have a knowledgeable opinion on this because discussing wrestling with a Brit is like explaining well, wrestling to a Brit. Phone Post 3.0
I was seeking an amateur career if not a professional one in MMA but have recently switched to boxing. So I can definitely see both sides of the argument. Phone Post 3.0
7/22/13 11:38 AM
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ryans - Ok so sucker punch > wrestling... What about the sucker powerdouble?

No can defend? or yes can defend? YOU DECIDE!
Take the piss as much as you want. I never said boxing was more useful than wrestling for a 1 vs 1 organised fight. What I'm saying is boxing is the BEST style for the street.

It gets the fucking job done faster than anything else and doesn't put you in danger like wrestling or BJJ. Even MMA fighters tend to box in the street, thats why Tito Ortiz got knocked out by Lee Murray with about two punches you fucking moron. Of course Lee would get killed by Tito in the cage but the street is different. Now imagine what a boxer would do to Lee Murray. Phone Post 3.0
Now there we have it. You're upset because you're a Brit and you guys can't wrestle for shit. I'm willing to bet PBF can't sprawl on a d3 wrestler let alone a d1, he'll maybe even a high school state champ. Then again you can't have a knowledgeable opinion on this because discussing wrestling with a Brit is like explaining well, wrestling to a Brit. Phone Post 3.0
And no I'm not British...don't know why you assumed that. Phone Post 3.0

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