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7/20/13 8:16 PM
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DanTheWolfman
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I mean yes it would be sort of novelty fight, but it would get a lot of attention. Most likely Cyborg would kill Fallon unless she pulled mount/made mistakes etc.

I did love fallon's shin choke from north south......

Just wondering, if for like a relatively start up promotion just hitting PPV, would you do it if you were Invicta or better to stay more pure? There are not a lot of peeps at 145, especially draws so wondering.....and if commissions say she is a woman after 3 yrs HRT, then....................?

(personally I don't think enough is known or agreed upon by Doctors as to bone density/strength how it effects penetration of striking vs ave woman, jaw to take hits etc. especially if the HRT/transformation isn't until after 30 vs like at 18 but I am not commission.....if you watch the Muay Thai true life story movie Beautiful Boxer it can give that perspective)

Anyway, I digress, would you put this fight together if you ran an org? IF so why, if not why (without being too degrading or hateful plz)?
7/20/13 8:20 PM
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I can't believe he is allowed to fight girls in the first place... So no. Phone Post 3.0
7/20/13 8:22 PM
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dbeedy - I can't believe he is allowed to fight girls in the first place... So no. Phone Post 3.0

if that is how you feel, and a lot do, while Fallon would be getting big $ attention fight and some would feel that unfair, others that feel like you do might think of it as Cyborg's revenge, getting whooped on by a woman (albeit one that also was doing HRT of sorts for awhile...............)
7/20/13 8:23 PM
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Finally a fair fight for both of them
7/20/13 8:25 PM
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No, absolutely not. And thin as the Featherweight division is, there are better challengers than Fox. Invicta is doing everything it can to make Women's MMA legitimate and the last thing it needs is to court controversy like that, at the expense of overshadowing the brand no less.

7/20/13 8:26 PM
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I wonder if she uses estrogen replacement regularly, and "cycles" off of it during camp. Phone Post 3.0
7/20/13 8:27 PM
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No way. Black ball her. Phone Post
7/20/13 8:27 PM
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I see that viewpoint as well Chromium....but the attention is something to consider, in many ways, a promoters dream. TMZ would jump on it.

Now if Cyborgs contract isn't Invicta exclusive, if CFA could put it together they should definitely do so.

Perhaps Invicta would let Cyborg fight Fallon in CFA or some other smaller org.
7/20/13 8:30 PM
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If I was Invicta I wouldn't even bring up that dudes name and if asked I would have no comment. It would not be worth whatever money the fight would generate.

I like Invicta and hope they never get involved in letting that dude fight in their promotion.
7/20/13 8:32 PM
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Sure, I would do it. After all it's a business that you run, a fight like that would get a lot of press for your organization.

7/20/13 8:34 PM
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Sure, I would do it. After all it's a business that you run, a fight like that would get a lot of press for your organization.

This. If the commission says she's a woman, and her opponent is good for it, let them bang!!! Phone Post 3.0
7/20/13 8:42 PM
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If Cyborg went a crushed Fallon in CFA, wouldn't that be a win win for Invicta?
7/20/13 8:44 PM
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i wouldnt do fallon

and i wouldnt do cyborg

 

but hell yes i'd have them fight eachother asap!

7/20/13 8:44 PM
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As much as I dislike DTW, this is actually a really good question.

 

I think they should fight but I honestly dont think Fallon's management team would let it happen. I also think Cyborg wins easily

7/20/13 8:44 PM
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No, it would be giving another fight to a man who wants to beat women.

Can we stop riding Fallons nuts please, I'm sure he has them in a jar somewhere. Phone Post 3.0
7/20/13 8:48 PM
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everyone on the forums claims to be a purist at heart but the UG are mostly the same people who boo when fights go to the ground or refuse to watch every UFC PPV that isn't stacked with top 5 fighters.


Of course you go for the freakshow fight. I would make any possible freak fight to make money.


Don't lie to yourself - outside of Cyborg, Gina and Rousey, Fallon Fox is easily the most interesting fighter in the ladies division.
7/20/13 8:49 PM
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As much as I dislike DTW, this is actually a really good question.

 

I think they should fight but I honestly dont think Fallon's management team would let it happen. I also think Cyborg wins easily


Why should they fight? Cyborg is number one at 145. Shouldnt Fallon beat one women who is ranked first?

I think the question is more of a theoretical/hypothetical kind of thing. I dont think anybody is looking at numbers and ranks and yada yada. 

7/20/13 8:51 PM
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I am a huge fan and supporter of Cyborg. I also support Fallons right to fight based on all the available science and my own person experience training with a trans teamate.

This fight should never happen. Ever.
It's like putting a kitten in front of a lion.
Cyborg might actually do permanent damage as Fallon does not possess the skills to decend herself for even 30 seconds againt the P4P no 1 woman.

It would be horrible at best and an embarrassing mismatch for Invicta. They pride themselves in proper matchmaking and this would be a pr nigjtmare. Phone Post
7/20/13 8:51 PM
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As much as I dislike DTW, this is actually a really good question.

 

I think they should fight but I honestly dont think Fallon's management team would let it happen. I also think Cyborg wins easily


Why should they fight? Cyborg is number one at 145. Shouldnt Fallon beat one women who is ranked first?

I think the question is more of a theoretical/hypothetical kind of thing. I dont think anybody is looking at numbers and ranks and yada yada. 

Yup. Phone Post 3.0
7/20/13 8:52 PM
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I'd rather see them make a porno together.








Holy shit how drunk am I??? Thought I was on the OG.
7/20/13 8:54 PM
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armbarseverywhere - I'd rather see them make a porno together.








Holy shit how drunk am I??? Thought I was on the OG.

BattleBang!!! I think they would make a ton of $ if they did that lol, and technically might be allowed as they could claim the fight first is "acting". I am making a funny post, but sure it would be possible and $$$, plus, one of their managers definitely has connections in that world.
7/20/13 9:04 PM
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No. And I hope invicta or UFC never use any of Fallon foxs opponents. Phone Post
7/20/13 9:07 PM
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pegson123 -  No. And I hope invicta or UFC never use any of Fallon foxs opponents. Phone Post

Mmmm Why? It's hard for Woman to find fights, like that Detroit/Lansing Boxer girl, she is under contract with CFA and kinda forced into back to back hard fights vs Fallon, and then 17 time world boxing champ, KB champ Holly Holm. Why on earth if this woman improves enough to get to that level, would a fight years before again Fallon be held against her?
7/20/13 9:10 PM
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No. Fallon doesnt deserve to fight women. Period. 

7/20/13 9:14 PM
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If I'm Invicta I'm trying to have as legitimate a product as possible. No freak show fights. Phone Post

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