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7/21/13 8:33 AM
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DanTheWolfman - Cindy, Not sure if you saw it, but I had asked and pointed out that makes no sense and some people piped up that he, pegson, is mad hating on a lot of woman fighters.

It would be a sort of weak Championship fight in Invicta, but if Fallon stays undefeated so few at 145 I could see it......however, I do think maybe people should talk possibly set it up CFA, with Invicta having clauses to event, commentators etc in all promotions, commentating of fight, that Cyborg is referred to as the Invicta FC 145 lb Champion.

No I am not a team mate of either girl. Like I said, Fallon was pretty articulate on AXS TV, however yes I am aware of some of the rumors at Invicta of her staring down Bec and others or something.

TMZ has mentioned Fallon and Cyborg a few times, and Ronda a lot. Nothing bad ever really.

Everyone knows I have ALWAYS since day one been huge supporter of WMMA, and not sure where I stand on the Fallon issue. Bones look Heavy to me, OP after 30 I have a bit of a problem with. If Op/HRT was like at 20 maybe not, don't think enough science to know. And someone raised a good issue of monitering her Estrogen levels to make sure taking it as normal for her to fight time, and not cycling of the E2, therefore having higher Testosterone to Estrogen ration (not Epitostosterone) or perhaps that would even spike her T up IDK. Then again, I remember watching Beautiful Boxer the thai movie and I remember it being quite touching and good film.

I don't see how not taking her estrogen would help Fox.
that would make her hormonal levels similar to those of a post-menopause woman - which obviously is not an athletic atvantage
7/21/13 8:34 AM
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*aDvantage of course
7/21/13 8:49 AM
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One has roided to get a lot of her mass, the other was a man. I say let them bang.

This is the only fight I agree with for Fallon, aside from fighting men. Phone Post 3.0
7/21/13 9:01 AM
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Would I watch them fight? Yes. Would I make the fight if I was working for Invicta? No.

The fight might generate a lot of attention and publicity for Invicta but the risk of this fight turning into an opportunity for people to ridicule Invicta and WMMA is too big IMO.

Invicta is doing great at the moment, I think. Great fights and getting more respect from fans after every event. Why risk screwing that up?

Or maybe I'm just too cautious to be an MMA promoter.
7/21/13 9:42 AM
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Still a man.

If he wants to fight (Fallon) he needs to fight against men. I don't care what hormone therapy you are on or operations you have had. It's still an advantage and it's not fair to women.

I don't understand how any organization aside from this local groups would even allow this to happen. It's not being sexist or homophobic or any other reason aside from it being an unfair fight.

This bullshit for equal rights doesn't even make any sense in this circumstance. This isn't about rights, this is about fairness and even to a certain extent even safety.

The fact this tool even gets spoken about is only because of his freak show attempt of fighting women. Phone Post 3.0
7/21/13 10:14 AM
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Not a good fight - Cyborg would beat her up in seconds.

7/21/13 10:16 AM
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Invicta 10 Sword Fight

Do it. Phone Post
7/21/13 1:46 PM
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Would definitely sell, but I agree that Fox would get smashed badly.

That being said, there would be a substantial amount of controvery to arise, should Fallon somehow attain the belt. While the current outlook on the issue is that any potential opponent for Fox has the choice to accept or decline. However with Fox as champ, this would essentially force any woman vying for the title, to face a transgendered athlete. Something that many feel disrupts the even playing field for which a women's division was put in place for to begin with.

To me, the issue wouldn't so much be with Fox herself, but rather the precident that this fight would set. Because while Fox's technical ability is widely considered vastly beneath that of Cyborgs, what would happen should a transgendered fighter with the abilities of Jose Aldo come along? Phone Post
7/23/13 6:20 AM
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Kirik - 

Not a good fight - Cyborg would beat her up in seconds.


I think so, too. Cris is just on another level.

 

Cindy


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