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7/24/13 8:57 AM
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not good for Bones

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7/24/13 9:38 AM
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CRE - Weidman isn't in his prime yet, neither is Jones scarily enough.

Both fighters need more time to develop and be tested before this fight can be made properly.

I would remain open to the possibility that Weidman could win this fight if he was more seasoned, but he's still a bit raw and almost a prospect still, a prospect so good that he just knocked Anderson Silva out..

I would like to see it, but not anytime soon.

If Weidman can dispose of Anderson Silva in the rematch, the MW division becomes very interesting due to new matchups and in the last few years it has been kind of bland.

It would be nice to see Weidman get a chance to reign as Champion first at 185.

Also it makes more sense for Jon Jones to go up in weight first before someone else goes up in weight to face him, because Jones is that dominant.



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7/24/13 9:59 AM
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Jones for sure. But it wouldn't be super easy like it was vs shogun. Phone Post 3.0
7/24/13 6:50 PM
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Really clueless as to what people have seen so far that would lead them to believe that Weidman would beat Jones.

Jones TKO within 3. Not saying that Weidman wouldn't give him a stiff test but where exactly do you guys see him beating jones?


7/24/13 9:25 PM
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I'm suprised people give Weidman a chance. Jones is better everywhere, plus he's much bigger than Weidman.

This fight is not even close. Jones would take him down and pound him out with hellbows whenever he wanted to.
7/24/13 9:45 PM
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Now Jones.

However, give Weidman 2 more years, it could be interesting.
7/24/13 9:49 PM
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Entreri - Now Jones.

However, give Weidman 2 more years, it could be interesting.

 

You think that Jones isn't going to improve in the next two years? You're aware that he's three years younger than Weidman, right?

 

7/24/13 9:53 PM
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Entreri - Now Jones.

However, give Weidman 2 more years, it could be interesting.

 

You think that Jones isn't going to improve in the next two years? You're aware that he's three years younger than Weidman, right?

 

Yup, his only shot at jbj is only in the next couple years and its not much of one Phone Post 3.0
7/25/13 9:20 AM
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not good for Bones

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Bones is from NY silly goose

7/25/13 10:33 AM
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Koreanflash - Jones is a much better striker, and his size would negate a lot of the wrestling advantage that Wideman has on the ground.

Jones by TKO round 2
Lol at Weidman having a wrestling advantage. I'm pretty sure bones is a better wrestler than him. Stop using his size as an excuse. Phone Post 3.0
7/25/13 10:47 AM
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RockMeAmadeus - Jones beats anyone and everyone in any weight class right now.

So the answer will always be Bones Jones no matter who he's fighting!

Do you think that Jones could beat Cain?

That would be a fun one to watch.
7/25/13 10:59 AM
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Ten eight round -  Quickly. It will be the schooling that Silva didn't bother finishing. How do people even think this is close? He won a dodgey MW fight against someone who wasn't trying. All of a sudden it's time for him to go at other champs? Tards here.

Go defend your tin belt at MW and after a few close, unappealing fights against former Spider challengers, you can end the superfight babble and accept that you aren't one of the dominant champs. If you don't get blown up by the likes of Bisping or Belfort before then. Phone Post

Silva got schooled in the first round and knocked the fuck out in the 2nd. The guy is good but not on Weidmans level. Weidman jumped in and out of his guard like Anderson was in his first day of BJJ class
7/25/13 11:47 AM
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Big fan of Chris but Jones would destroy him, as he would everyone else at 205 and under.
7/25/13 2:55 PM
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Weidmans stand up has holes that can be exposed. Phone Post
7/25/13 5:16 PM
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JBJ would beat Weidman and make him rethink fighting in MMA. That's how close the fight would NOT be. Phone Post 3.0
7/25/13 6:14 PM
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Damaynevent - JBJ would beat Weidman and make him rethink fighting in MMA. That's how close the fight would NOT be. Phone Post 3.0
This. Phone Post 3.0
7/25/13 6:37 PM
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Jones would destroy him. People are kidding themselves here. Phone Post 3.0
7/25/13 6:43 PM
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Jones going down Phone Post 3.0
7/25/13 6:56 PM
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It would go down like Balboa vs Drago. Phone Post 3.0
7/26/13 7:32 AM
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RockMeAmadeus - Weidman = MW GOAT

Jones = MMA GOD

Explain how a guy with 10 fights and not a single title defense is the GOAT at his weight?

Not busting on you, but this seems to be a common sentiment, and I don't understand it.
7/26/13 9:32 AM
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RockMeAmadeus - Weidman = MW GOAT

Jones = MMA GOD

Explain how a guy with 10 fights and not a single title defense is the GOAT at his weight?

Not busting on you, but this seems to be a common sentiment, and I don't understand it.

The idea is if a fighter wins a fight in convincing fashion, no matter who against, they instantly becomes this infallible wrecking machine.

i.e Woodley KO's Hieron, he can suddenly wreck WW division

Hunto KO's struve, suddenly JDS is getting slept

Overeem liver kicks a deathbed lesnar, suddenly he is Ubereem the HW champ of the universe

That's idiotic.

Silva won the title and then went on a 15-win streak. People need a little perspective. Maybe Weidman goes on a tear now, or maybe the belt gets passed around a bit like the LHW belt did before Jones. Let Weidman clear his weight class of this generation's contenders first before talking about GOAT.
7/26/13 10:38 AM
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No. Phone Post 3.0
7/26/13 12:43 PM
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RockMeAmadeus - Weidman = MW GOAT

Jones = MMA GOD

Explain how a guy with 10 fights and not a single title defense is the GOAT at his weight?

Not busting on you, but this seems to be a common sentiment, and I don't understand it.

He needs to win the rematch to be the GOAT mw. Of course we can wait until his career is over to see if he loses more fights than SIlva but it's hard to imagine he won't retire with a better win/loss ratio than SIlva if he wins the rematch. That would be 6 losses for him while Weidman is undefeated at 11-0. Anything can happen but it's hard to see Weidman ever having a win/loss ratio lower than what Silva's would be and he would have 2 head to head wins over the guy.

That means as long as his win/loss ratio is even close to Silva's he would have a huge edge with 2 head to head wins. Basically this means as long as Weidman can win about 70 percent of his fights remaining in his career he will have to be considered the greatest MW of all time.
7/26/13 12:47 PM
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Being 2-0 against Silva would basically cancel out any title defense streak or argument. It would come down to wins and losses.
7/26/13 2:30 PM
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No, no.

Do you think history will consider Antonio Tarver a better boxer than Roy Jones. I mean, he's great, but . . . Is Trevor Berbick a better boxer than Ali.

Silva is done. I have no doubt about that. It happens to every athlete. He's 38. But it will be the win streak going forward that will define Weidman.

And this talk of ratio, what kind of nonsense is that? Then they guy who had one fight and won it is the GOAT with his 100% win ratio?

GOAT is something you prove over time.


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