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7/25/13 2:39 PM
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Refereeing in professional sports is generally a thankless job. Doing your job right usually results in nothing, but screw up and everyone is on your case. It is of coure the job of the referee to competently control the action of the fight and make proper judgement calls on fighter safety, something that Miesha Tate believes Kim Winslow does not do:

"There's no way in hell I'd let Kim Winslow referee another fight of mine. I think she's horrible. I was so pissed when she stopped the fight. The first thing I did was look up at her and say, ‘Why did you stop the fight?' And [Winslow] goes, ‘Because your face is a mess.' I'm like, seriously? That's why you stopped the fight? Your face is a mess and they still let you work. That's what I felt like saying to her. I was like, are you serious right now? Did you not realize that we were coming in here to fight each other? You don't base it off how much someone's bleeding, you base it off whether or not they're cognitive and they're still trying.

She was like a yippy Chihuahua the whole time that I was on the bottom. ‘Miesha, you gotta do something, you gotta move.' I'm like, ‘Why? She's not doing anything to me, she's in my half-guard. Nobody finishes fights in half-guard.' But the referee, I thought she was going to stop it. She was over-coaching, over-refereeing. It's something that is very frustrating when you have other people who have never fought a day in their life, like Kim. She doesn't do anything. I don't think she deserves to be a referee. And if she is, she should go to the amateur levels where it doesn't matter as much, and there's not as much on the line, because she's literally ruining people's lives."

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7/25/13 2:47 PM
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She really is terrible, but Tate was done in that fight regardless. Phone Post 3.0
7/25/13 2:52 PM
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#FuckKimWinslow Phone Post 3.0
7/25/13 2:52 PM
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Agreed with Tate. Winslow and Maz has been involved in some of the most criminal late stoppages in MMA.
7/25/13 2:53 PM
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Juicymma - She really is terrible, but Tate was done in that fight regardless. Phone Post 3.0

Exactly.  Tate shouldn't have let her defense solely be "I'll take 5 knees to the face" during that end sequence.

7/25/13 2:55 PM
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Agree with her that Winslow is not a good ref, but that was a good stoppage.

7/25/13 2:55 PM
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>>And if she is, she should go to the amateur levels where it doesn't matter as much

Really disagree with this. An amateur fight might not be important to Tate, but it sure would be important to the fighters involved.

Also their safety should be just as important.
7/25/13 2:55 PM
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I think that could have gone on a bit longer, but was going to be finished anyway. Her critcisms about Zombie Ref are right. They are not there to be coaches and should have a better understanding of grappling than they do.

7/25/13 3:13 PM
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7/25/13 3:21 PM
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Winslow definitely talks too much in there Phone Post
7/25/13 3:25 PM
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That was a decent stoppage. It could have continued abs I wouldn't have contested. But kim is a bad ref. Yes I think I could do a better job and I'd be willing to take the test. Fights line erik perez vs john Albert where albert was in an arm bar but he didn't even remotely tap makes me angry. That cost john money and a fight on his record. Up to that point he was winning too.

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7/25/13 3:32 PM
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winslow does kinda suck


meisha is kinda annoying
7/25/13 3:34 PM
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subwrassler - winslow does kinda suck


meisha is kinda annoying

Tate and her boyfriend are annoying, and Tate's "just coast" comment still bothers me. Ronda will take her arm, again.
7/25/13 3:37 PM
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Winslow sucks.....but Miesha was done and was just going to get wrecked more if Winslow let it go on....she should be thanking Winslow

7/25/13 3:38 PM
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Stoppage was okay.

7/25/13 3:39 PM
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Let me first say, agreed Winslow isnt very good.

But even a broken clock is right twice a day!

Cat was doing some brutal damage at that point and it was only going to get worse.

 

7/25/13 6:44 PM
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I'm like, ‘Why? She's not doing anything to me, she's in my half-guard. Nobody finishes fights in half-guard.'







Hey Meisha - i bet you could finish me off from half guard...








yeah - someone had to say it.....
7/25/13 6:56 PM
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It was a great stoppage, I can't believe she's still whining about that. Is she surrounded by yes men, has no one in her camp been truthful to get about it.

I want to watch the new TUF I really do,
, but I have this feeling that everytime Tate opens her mouth, I'll want to smash the shit out of my TV. Phone Post
7/25/13 10:23 PM
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Kim Wislow is likely the worst referee in MMA.

She made many mistakes in Miesha Tate's fight...

BUT that stoppage was perfect. Miesha was done and was totally destroyed there.

Miesha tends to tap too late, way after she's done, a la her fight with Ronda... the referee should have stopped it before Ronda snapped her arm like that.
7/25/13 10:24 PM
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Meisha is extremely tough. I think she has more heart than a lot of male fighters.

She made a very poor comment "your face is a mess and they still let ou work?" That was ignorant and chooses the line.

I like watching Meisha fight but her attitude is not very likable... At all.
7/25/13 10:31 PM
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Hey Meisha, shut up. Phone Post 3.0
7/25/13 10:36 PM
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Excuses excuses, easy to blame your own failings on others. Especially such an easy target.

Winslow is horrible, no doubt about it, but Tate would have gotten mauled just like that regardless of what ref was in there. Phone Post
7/26/13 12:02 AM
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Didn't that fight end in the 3rd?

Perhaps Ms. Tate was just coasting? Phone Post 3.0
7/26/13 12:27 AM
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Tate was in Zinganos strawberry patch and wasn't getting out alive. Winslow saved her an agonizing death. She should be thankful.
7/26/13 1:29 AM
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