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8/3/13 6:37 PM
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Brian J DSouza
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Maybe Zuffa will change ownership and then things will change? Until then, its DFW's way or the highway.

8/3/13 7:02 PM
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Who was the journalist on sherdog that predicted every ufc fight for an event wrong? I want to say it was around ufc 60 or 70 Phone Post 3.0
8/3/13 7:20 PM
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While Gross might be good for MMA,
He is not a friend to Zuffa. Phone Post 3.0
8/3/13 7:39 PM
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Josh Gross is a legit MMA journalist and one of a select few. Not surprised Dana and his lemmings on this site hate him. The TUF spoilers came from other places as well. For TUF 2, I remember fight sport posted each match and the end result on it's site. Dana is a child. He's happy as long as he has flunkies like Ariel Helwani, Franklin McNeil, etc around him.
8/3/13 7:41 PM
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Hey everyone, thanks for your thoughts.

I don't visit the UG so often but I always remember my email/password combo. Gotta love that.

Must say, it's an intense experience reading the posts of people who seem to have passionate feelings about me and my situation with UFC. Good and bad alike, thanks. Not all of it was fun to read and some of it was straight hate, but I also saw criticisms I can do something about.

Enjoy the fights tonight. I continue to no matter where I'm watching, which is mostly from my couch. Nothing's like cage-side, I gotta say. Maybe a UFC some day. I know enough to never say never.

While I'm here, may as well ask you to check out ESPN's coverage of the card tonight: http://espn.go.com/mma/

- JG
8/3/13 7:51 PM
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Josh Gross - Hey everyone, thanks for your thoughts.

I don't visit the UG so often but I always remember my email/password combo. Gotta love that.

Must say, it's an intense experience reading the posts of people who seem to have passionate feelings about me and my situation with UFC. Good and bad alike, thanks. Not all of it was fun to read and some of it was straight hate, but I also saw criticisms I can do something about.

Enjoy the fights tonight. I continue to no matter where I'm watching, which is mostly from my couch. Nothing's like cage-side, I gotta say. Maybe a UFC some day. I know enough to never say never.

While I'm here, may as well ask you to check out ESPN's coverage of the card tonight: http://espn.go.com/mma/

- JG

Give this man credentials, Dana White. Come on, son.

8/3/13 7:53 PM
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PS - Which way did you vote, Josh?
8/3/13 10:41 PM
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That's some pretty fucking epic lurking. Phone Post 3.0
8/5/13 9:31 AM
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Why so quiet in here all of a sudden? Was there a "Bachlorette" marathon on TV or something?

8/5/13 9:42 AM
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If there was ever a thread to display how UFC fans blindly follow Dana White's opinion, this is it. Phone Post 3.0
8/5/13 4:39 PM
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I'm always shocked at how people hold it against him about the TUF spoilers.

It's his JOB as a journalist to find these things out and report them. You're talking about the next person getting a title shot with a UFC superstar.

Remember the hype around the first season of Survivor? You think if ANY news organization found out who the winner was ahead of time they wouldn't have reported it?

It isn't the job of the news media to protect the interests of the subjects they report on. If anything, the UFC should have gone apeshit on whoever leaked the information in the first place, not whoever reported it.

His two biggest beefs with the UFC (the spoilers and the PED open-letter) were totally legitimate journalistic moves. In fact, his PED letter has proven to be prescient as the UFC has been moving towards EXACTLY what he said they should have been doing - cleaning house from the inside. More independent testing, and company-based consequences that go beyond what the athletic commissions mandate.
8/5/13 4:50 PM
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notsobigmike - I'm always shocked at how people hold it against him about the TUF spoilers.

It's his JOB as a journalist to find these things out and report them. You're talking about the next person getting a title shot with a UFC superstar.

Remember the hype around the first season of Survivor? You think if ANY news organization found out who the winner was ahead of time they wouldn't have reported it?

It isn't the job of the news media to protect the interests of the subjects they report on. If anything, the UFC should have gone apeshit on whoever leaked the information in the first place, not whoever reported it.

His two biggest beefs with the UFC (the spoilers and the PED open-letter) were totally legitimate journalistic moves. In fact, his PED letter has proven to be prescient as the UFC has been moving towards EXACTLY what he said they should have been doing - cleaning house from the inside. More independent testing, and company-based consequences that go beyond what the athletic commissions mandate.

Good post.

I bet the majority of the folks that voted no just know him for those two things and have never read any of his articles or seen his fighter interviews.
8/5/13 4:54 PM
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notsobigmike - I'm always shocked at how people hold it against him about the TUF spoilers.

It's his JOB as a journalist to find these things out and report them. You're talking about the next person getting a title shot with a UFC superstar.

Remember the hype around the first season of Survivor? You think if ANY news organization found out who the winner was ahead of time they wouldn't have reported it?

It isn't the job of the news media to protect the interests of the subjects they report on. If anything, the UFC should have gone apeshit on whoever leaked the information in the first place, not whoever reported it.

His two biggest beefs with the UFC (the spoilers and the PED open-letter) were totally legitimate journalistic moves. In fact, his PED letter has proven to be prescient as the UFC has been moving towards EXACTLY what he said they should have been doing - cleaning house from the inside. More independent testing, and company-based consequences that go beyond what the athletic commissions mandate.

good post vtfu

8/5/13 4:54 PM
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caposa - If there was ever a thread to display how UFC fans blindly follow Dana White's opinion, this is it. Phone Post 3.0

agreed. i am actually a little surprised at the results

8/5/13 5:06 PM
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TuLegit - Can someone give a better backstory on what happened here? Phone Post 3.0

http://www.cagepotato.com/dana-white-never-forgets-espns-josh-gross-cbs-sports-loretta-hunt-and-sherdogs-jeff-sherwood-denied-media-credentials-for-strikeforce-diaz-vs-daley/

 

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/11/15/1815216/josh-gross-to-espn-dana-whites-least-favorite-reporter-joins-sports

Thank you Phone Post 3.0
8/6/13 5:30 PM
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Josh Gross - Hey everyone, thanks for your thoughts.

I don't visit the UG so often but I always remember my email/password combo. Gotta love that.

Must say, it's an intense experience reading the posts of people who seem to have passionate feelings about me and my situation with UFC. Good and bad alike, thanks. Not all of it was fun to read and some of it was straight hate, but I also saw criticisms I can do something about.

Enjoy the fights tonight. I continue to no matter where I'm watching, which is mostly from my couch. Nothing's like cage-side, I gotta say. Maybe a UFC some day. I know enough to never say never.

While I'm here, may as well ask you to check out ESPN's coverage of the card tonight: http://espn.go.com/mma/

- JG

You handled the comments well. Can't say that for a lot of the journalists around here, including some in this thread.

You probably don't feel like hanging around a community that hates on you so much, but a lot of us here would enjoy your input on certain subjects in a more discussion based environment. It may help you clarify the intent of a lot of your stories too. I think a lot of backlash you get is from people making assumptions about your agenda.

8/28/13 10:10 PM
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8/28/13 10:31 PM
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The guy just likes to stir up drama more than talk about fights. So, nah, I don't care if he does.

8/29/13 12:46 AM
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Free Josh Gross!
8/29/13 1:01 AM
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NO. Josh is a snotty, snarky writer and has no significance today. The sport has passed him by.
8/29/13 2:34 AM
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Why is Joah Gross a douche? Because he's a real journalist and not a company shill like Ariela? Phone Post 3.0
8/29/13 3:04 AM
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Josh Gross - Hey everyone, thanks for your thoughts.

I don't visit the UG so often but I always remember my email/password combo. Gotta love that.

Must say, it's an intense experience reading the posts of people who seem to have passionate feelings about me and my situation with UFC. Good and bad alike, thanks. Not all of it was fun to read and some of it was straight hate, but I also saw criticisms I can do something about.

Enjoy the fights tonight. I continue to no matter where I'm watching, which is mostly from my couch. Nothing's like cage-side, I gotta say. Maybe a UFC some day. I know enough to never say never.

While I'm here, may as well ask you to check out ESPN's coverage of the card tonight: http://espn.go.com/mma/

- JG

Come back to sherdog radio more! how about that for constructive criticism. More roundtables at the least
8/29/13 3:04 AM
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Nothing against him or anything but I really don't care. That whole tuf thing is reason enough to be Barred for life but to be honest espn sucks pretty bad so I can't support anything from them. He's a solid writer. Phone Post
8/29/13 3:05 AM
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Also screw people who don't like Ariel. He asks tough questions and people don't like it. Fighters don't like it. But he does it. He's not perfect but Ariel does a good job. Phone Post
8/29/13 3:11 AM
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notsobigmike - I'm always shocked at how people hold it against him about the TUF spoilers.

It's his JOB as a journalist to find these things out and report them. You're talking about the next person getting a title shot with a UFC superstar.

Remember the hype around the first season of Survivor? You think if ANY news organization found out who the winner was ahead of time they wouldn't have reported it?

It isn't the job of the news media to protect the interests of the subjects they report on. If anything, the UFC should have gone apeshit on whoever leaked the information in the first place, not whoever reported it.

His two biggest beefs with the UFC (the spoilers and the PED open-letter) were totally legitimate journalistic moves. In fact, his PED letter has proven to be prescient as the UFC has been moving towards EXACTLY what he said they should have been doing - cleaning house from the inside. More independent testing, and company-based consequences that go beyond what the athletic commissions mandate.
They have every right to bar him from their events. It's not their job to let him report their events. They can do what they want why do people think just because you are a good journalist or good writer you get access? You don't. Phone Post

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