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7/31/13 9:19 PM
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And the UFC will be more than happy to let him stay there and stink up the airwaves.

7/31/13 9:20 PM
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I was entertained, but yea the average fan can't appreciate anything other than stand and wang.
7/31/13 9:21 PM
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lies!

askren will sit out and fight for zuffa soon enough.

askrens contract is up right now....
7/31/13 9:23 PM
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TzTinkle - I was entertained, but yea the average fan can't appreciate anything other than stand and wang.

Holy shit!  The elitist "But I know what I'm watching" reply is the first one in the thread.

7/31/13 9:24 PM
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TzTinkle - I was entertained, but yea the average fan can't appreciate anything other than stand and wang.
The guy probably has the softest punches of anyone in mma. Phone Post 3.0
7/31/13 9:24 PM
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Lol he wouldn't beat anyone in the top ten. Phone Post
7/31/13 9:24 PM
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It was a boring fight, but I don't think Askren is incapable of having an interesting fight. The problem is, he seems to constantly fight guys who have nothing for him, which doesn't exactly make for scintillating TV.
7/31/13 9:24 PM
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epwar -
TzTinkle - I was entertained, but yea the average fan can't appreciate anything other than stand and wang.

Holy shit!  The elitist "But I know what I'm watching" reply is the first one in the thread.

I don't want to be that guy but I do like watching him work.

Really curious how he'd do versus top guys. Phone Post
7/31/13 9:25 PM
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Dana white would give Askren the biggest verbal beating of his life.

Dana needs to have a "won via embarassing strategy" award.


if bellator had such a thing Askren would have 2 belts.
7/31/13 9:26 PM
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epwar - 
TzTinkle - I was entertained, but yea the average fan can't appreciate anything other than stand and wang.

Holy shit!  The elitist "But I know what I'm watching" reply is the first one in the thread.


Why is he elitist because he enjoys watching Askren's wrestling/grappling skills?

7/31/13 9:27 PM
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sacredhate - Dana white would give Askren the biggest verbal beating of his life.

Dana needs to have a "won via embarassing strategy" award.


if bellator had such a thing Askren would have 2 belts.

Indeed.  But it would never happen as Dana and Joe Silva will love to leave Ben in Bellator and making viewers suffer.  Brilliant strategy.

7/31/13 9:27 PM
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I hate lay and pray, or any stalling tactics for that matter, but I didn't feel like that was lay and pray at all. My only complaint about Askren vs Koreshkov was that it was brutally one-sided.

I actually enjoyed the fight, though... Askren's constant transitioning kept it interesting. I felt like I was at a BJJ class watching the guys that are 1000x better than me, just a real curiosity about what's this guy gonna do next. I can appreciate that's not very entertaining though for the striking-oriented fans.

I look forward to seeing Askren fight again.
7/31/13 9:28 PM
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If you are not entertained by pure dominance and a guy showing his art is so far superior to the other guys art that he is having a CONVERSATION with the ref during the fight then why are you watching?

I get it that it is fun to watch two guys stand and wang or watch a sub expert take the limb of a novice but it is just as fun to watch a guy who excels at his style of fight and put on an absolute clinic.
7/31/13 9:29 PM
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I loved it. Best wrestler in mma. Phone Post
7/31/13 9:29 PM
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I'm a fan, but wouldn't mind if he went for a decisive finish every now and then. Phone Post 3.0
7/31/13 9:29 PM
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epwar - 
TzTinkle - I was entertained, but yea the average fan can't appreciate anything other than stand and wang.

Holy shit!  The elitist "But I know what I'm watching" reply is the first one in the thread.


Why is he elitist because he enjoys watching Askren's wrestling/grappling skills?


I think it's the suggestion that if you don't like Askren's style you must only like sloppy slugfests. There's a big difference between an exciting grappling match and a guy just riding his opponent and hitting pitter pat punches for four rounds.

Since the outcome was pretty damn obvious minutes into this fight, I don't see how anyone could consider that match exciting.
7/31/13 9:31 PM
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What is most frustrating to me, much like with GSP when he is on the ground, is the obvious openings to attempt submissions. I grasp position before submission, but there is a point where it gets ridiculous. Especially when you know you are so much better than your opponent that IF you miss the sub you can just get right back up and do it again. Phone Post
7/31/13 9:32 PM
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Rantuckjr - If you are not entertained by pure dominance and a guy showing his art is so far superior to the other guys art that he is having a CONVERSATION with the ref during the fight then why are you watching?

I get it that it is fun to watch two guys stand and wang or watch a sub expert take the limb of a novice but it is just as fun to watch a guy who excels at his style of fight and put on an absolute clinic.

Askren is a shark thrown in with guppies in the kiddie pool.


yeah, he's good at what he does but it's simply not impressive given the context.

The fact that he like he's a shark in the big bad ocean of the baddest mma motherfuckers ever makes people view his performances in a different light.

7/31/13 9:32 PM
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as much as i hate lay and prayers, i enjoy watching Askren..he stays busy and has a weird grappling style, he just needs to fight the right opponents..guys like Damian Maia, Shields, or GSP would be amazing matchups..id be ecstatic to see Askren fight Koscheck..
7/31/13 9:32 PM
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sorry...he acts like he's a shark...
7/31/13 9:32 PM
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Saw my first askren fight today.






















Speechless... Phone Post 3.0
7/31/13 9:33 PM
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Askren did this thing, where he did somekind of arm drag from his knees after getting sprawled on - it brought the Russian just close enough for Askren to clinch and easily get the takedown. Very cool and sort of hard to see.
7/31/13 9:39 PM
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The guy is fucking boring and looks like a straight up fag with those curls. Get a hair cut already Phone Post
7/31/13 9:50 PM
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I think he would love to stay in bellator and fight these nobodies as long as they pay him... in the UFC he wouldnt even beat mike pierce.

7/31/13 9:52 PM
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jwistead - I hate lay and pray, or any stalling tactics for that matter, but I didn't feel like that was lay and pray at all. My only complaint about Askren vs Koreshkov was that it was brutally one-sided.

I actually enjoyed the fight, though... Askren's constant transitioning kept it interesting. I felt like I was at a BJJ class watching the guys that are 1000x better than me, just a real curiosity about what's this guy gonna do next. I can appreciate that's not very entertaining though for the striking-oriented fans.

I look forward to seeing Askren fight again.
I agree with you 100% Phone Post 3.0

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