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8/29/13 12:26 AM
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Dana White announces Abel Trujillo getting win bonus & that knees were legal. Guessing he didn't watch the replay. 2nd one was to the jaw.

 

8/29/13 1:38 AM
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8/29/13 1:39 AM
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8/29/13 1:50 AM
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Those knees look okay imho.. looks like the guy ducked/leaned into the second one. It's stupid that this is even a debatable issue in the first place. For fucks sake let professional MMA fighters knee each other
8/29/13 1:51 AM
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CRMartin11 - OP you're a fag.

You don't want low level fighter to make an extra few grand?

Go suck a bag of fat dicks.

It's disgraceful that Trujillo is getting his win bonus after having the fight end with a blatantly illegal strike....it's a big fuck you to Bowling who did everything right and was winning up until that point.
8/29/13 1:58 AM
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I dont know that second knee looked like his thigh hit him in the face but not the knee.... its a tightrope walk tho if guys are going to be throwing to the shoulder of a downed opponent like that.... gonna miss and hit the head eventually, better be ready to accept it when you do i guess
8/29/13 5:02 AM
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Illegal

8/29/13 5:25 AM
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Watched it 10xs he makes contact with the collar bone area and bowlings head whips forward and makes contact with abels leg above the knee, clearly not intentional he was aiming for the same spot the first one hit. Phone Post 3.0
8/29/13 5:27 AM
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Wait..maybe not..lol its really borderline. Phone Post 3.0
8/29/13 5:28 AM
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This is when the phantom cam 100 frames per second should review on UFC tonite just to end discussion or speculation. Even if it was illegal. Were human and make mistakes. Phone Post 3.0
8/29/13 8:47 AM
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Problem is that the phantom cam faces the center of the octagon- I don't think they pan it to the sides..

I very much thought the 2nd knee was illegal. I was sitting with his management at the fights last night and they want to appeal it. Especially since the ref announced it as an intentional knee, and then it was called an unintentional one.. They also deducted a point from all the cards based on the foul. According to the cards Roger won the 1st round.

Why would it be declared no contest? Wouldn't it go to the scorecards or be called a DQ?
8/29/13 8:53 AM
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Actually if you look closely, the first knee was legal and when the second knee hits, the grounded opponents knee doesn't seem to be on the ground. Its hovering a couple of inches above it.
8/29/13 8:58 AM
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It looks to me that people are arguing over it A LOT. So it's not as cut and dry as some think. Dana is giving a kid extra money for a fight. Of all the things to complain about, this is your priority?

8/29/13 9:07 AM
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Brian Rule - Those knees look okay imho.. looks like the guy ducked/leaned into the second one. It's stupid that this is even a debatable issue in the first place. For fucks sake let professional MMA fighters knee each other
I was thinking that the other dude ducked right into it. Phone Post 3.0
8/29/13 9:10 AM
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Let's cool it on the namecalling guys.

Edit your posts or take a short break from the site.

8/29/13 9:22 AM
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Weakest move in a while if he gave him a win bonus. That's crazy ridiculous.
8/29/13 9:31 AM
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88samurai88 - Watched it 10xs he makes contact with the collar bone area and bowlings head whips forward and makes contact with abels leg above the knee, clearly not intentional he was aiming for the same spot the first one hit. Phone Post 3.0

agreed 88
8/29/13 9:32 AM
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Brian Rule - Those knees look okay imho.. looks like the guy ducked/leaned into the second one. It's stupid that this is even a debatable issue in the first place. For fucks sake let professional MMA fighters knee each other
He didnt duck/lean...dude pulled him into it.

However we need a different angle to conclude where it hit. Phone Post
8/29/13 9:34 AM
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Yeah, I hope Bowling got his win bonus too then.  Sucks x2 for him if not.

8/29/13 9:35 AM
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peppo - Actually if you look closely, the first knee was legal and when the second knee hits, the grounded opponents knee doesn't seem to be on the ground. Its hovering a couple of inches above it.
Wow. 100% this. Clear as day.

Doesnt matter where the second knee lands. He is not a "grounded opponent" when it makes contact. No knees on the ground at impact.

Winner. Deserves his bonus. Phone Post
8/29/13 9:37 AM
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Here is a slowed down GIF of the knee in question.  It is a very gray area because it lands on the chest, but momentum sends it up and it touches the left side of Bowling's face.

8/29/13 9:39 AM
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its cool they are paying the kid but it should be going to Bowling not Abel since that second knee was clearly illegal.

Not sure how anyone can watch that gif of the second knee and say thats a clean shot according to the rules. 

Dana spends so much time bashing refs, when they actually get a call right he goes and ignores the call and calls it a win for Abel.

 

8/29/13 9:41 AM
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Who gives a shit. It's their money. They can give him money for whatever the fuck they want Phone Post 3.0
8/29/13 10:04 AM
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Here is a slowed down GIF of the knee in question.  It is a very gray area because it lands on the chest, but momentum sends it up and it touches the left side of Bowling's face.


No doubt thats what smashed his nose.  It's an illegal knee.  If he gives Trujillio a win bonus, Bowling deserves one to because he was on his way to winning that fight until he took an illegal knee.

8/29/13 10:04 AM
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It's not illegal to give a bonus for whatever reason Dana decides. The commision just makes sure the fighter gets their guaranteed money.

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