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9/10/13 6:52 PM
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Mertvaya Ruka
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in the MMA hour interview, did Ariel tell him that GSP was willing to do both tests? Or it was never mentioned?
9/10/13 6:53 PM
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Berto also failed his VADA test after working with Conte.

 

Edit: Goof.

9/10/13 6:56 PM
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I agree, Herman. If it weren't for this whole situation I wouldn't have questioned it. I wasn't surprised when Johnny said "heck ya" to VADA testing because I was positive he doesn't cheat. I've almost completely reversed my thoughts on this now after considering recent events. I didn't even really think Johnny was dirty when VADA said he hadn't enrolled, it's everything that came from Hendricks' camp that raises my suspicions. Unless you decide to omit facts, you can't argue that anything GSP is doing is shady because ultimately he's going above and beyond both in terms of extra testing and promoting clean fighting. If GSP fails I'll eat some crow, but if he passes everyone will still say he cheated the test. It's a lose-lose-lose for Georges because it's gonna cost him money as well regardless. 


Fail? Hah. You think Victor Conte ex Balco Labs founder who runs VADA is going to let there star GSP fail a drug test? No of course not. They give him those drug tests on a silver platter. It's probably just like PrideFC you take a pee and then they just throw away the sample in the garbage. That's Victor Conte for you hes a complete scumbag do your homework on the guy before you say Hendricks is doing anything to raise your suspicions.
P.S. one of Victor's guys, Berto actually used VADA and he came up hot for steroids before the Ortiz fight. Oh..the ironing. Phone Post
9/10/13 6:58 PM
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Mertvaya Ruka - in the MMA hour interview, did Ariel tell him that GSP was willing to do both tests? Or it was never mentioned?

Probably not Ariel Povich was getting too much juicy drama for his TMZ mma show

9/10/13 6:59 PM
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I agree, Herman. If it weren't for this whole situation I wouldn't have questioned it. I wasn't surprised when Johnny said "heck ya" to VADA testing because I was positive he doesn't cheat. I've almost completely reversed my thoughts on this now after considering recent events. I didn't even really think Johnny was dirty when VADA said he hadn't enrolled, it's everything that came from Hendricks' camp that raises my suspicions. Unless you decide to omit facts, you can't argue that anything GSP is doing is shady because ultimately he's going above and beyond both in terms of extra testing and promoting clean fighting. If GSP fails I'll eat some crow, but if he passes everyone will still say he cheated the test. It's a lose-lose-lose for Georges because it's gonna cost him money as well regardless. 


Fail? Hah. You think Victor Conte ex Balco Labs founder who runs VADA is going to let there star GSP fail a drug test? No of course not. They give him those drug tests on a silver platter. It's probably just like PrideFC you take a pee and then they just throw away the sample in the garbage. That's Victor Conte for you hes a complete scumbag do your homework on the guy before you say Hendricks is doing anything to raise your suspicions.

They don't let you use the big boy scissors do they?

9/10/13 7:05 PM
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rarebear - VADA is shady as fuck. VADA for those of you who don't know is run by ex Balco Labs founder Victor Conte. Do you not think he has an invested interest in making sure his fighters come up clean? Given that he plasters them all over his website? He's always been that "Guy" that people know to get steroids from, and now hes that "Guy" that runs an "drug testing company" that will make sure you piss clean and plaster you on his website and say congratulations xxx big fighter successfully completed our VADA testing program!
Victor Conte is as scummy as they come. If you pass VADA's testing program that means nothing. VADA means nothing. They aren't a legitimate anti doping agency.
Why don't you post under your real name, Johny? Phone Post 3.0
9/10/13 7:13 PM
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rarebear gettin rarer.

9/10/13 7:16 PM
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9/10/13 7:22 PM
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What does the greasing thing have to do with this? It seems your dislike of GSP is clouding your logical thinking. Phone Post
9/10/13 7:23 PM
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Mertvaya Ruka - in the MMA hour interview, did Ariel tell him that GSP was willing to do both tests? Or it was never mentioned?

Apparently Johny No-Funds wants the USADA and no VADA.

9/10/13 8:55 PM
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it's kind of funny... if you look at the title, and think about the comments johny and his manager have made over the past few days, it's actually quite the opposite

9/10/13 9:05 PM
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What does the greasing thing have to do with this? It seems your dislike of GSP is clouding your logical thinking. Phone Post

Don't mind him, this guy fly off the handle at the drop of a hat. He's amusing.
9/10/13 9:42 PM
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Reed Rothchild - VADA is shady Phone Post 3.0

Of course, you won't explain why or actually care about the facts.

You simply just happen to fall on the opposite of logic and decency on pretty much every topic out there.

19000 posts like these, thanks for your great contribution to this forum.
9/10/13 10:07 PM
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its no shadier than a g
bloke with mammoth gyno and classic roid swole-gut implying that YOU are the one who's juicing
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its no shadier than a g
bloke with mammoth gyno and classic roid swole-gut implying that YOU are the one who's juicing
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its no shadier than a g
bloke with mammoth gyno and classic roid swole-gut implying that YOU are the one who's juicing
9/10/13 10:21 PM
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Fucking hell, so many people are this thread are fucking stupid and apparently still live with their parents.

The lawyer shouldn't have asked the question?!! Whoever says this is RETARDED. That's one of a lawyer's most important jobs. They're there to cover all the bases and a few extra.

I'm sorry, I'm a GSP fan, but even if I weren't, it'd still be clear that his actions are beyond reproach here. And Keith Kizer should shut his stupid fucking mouth.
9/10/13 10:30 PM
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I used to have a bit of respect for Hendricks, until I read that crap. When did he turn into such a paranoid cry-baby?

9/10/13 11:00 PM
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Dr. Goodman helped found VADA and was a major ringside doc through the Randy, Chuck, and Tito era.
She helped found it in response to all the major problems with testing she had.
You can check out the interview I did with her for my website FightMedicine.net here:

http://fightmedicine.net/interviews/dr-margaret-goodman-on-vada-peds-and-fighter-mental-health

I also spoke to Keith Kizer about similar topics for FightMedicine.net:
http://fightmedicine.net/peds/keith-kizer-on-nsac-testosterone-replacement-therapy-trt-testing-and-therapeutic-use-exemptions-tue

Let me know your thoughts. Phone Post 3.0
9/11/13 12:38 PM
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I just met you
and this is crazy
here's my blood test
so call me shady...
9/11/13 1:13 PM
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Jone2tone - Whined his way into a title shot. Night as well whine all the way through it. Phone Post 3.0

He did?

I thought he got it from going 10-1 in the UFC (along with 2-0 in WEC) while beating two guys ranked top 10 currently and 2 others who had not lost another fight in between Hendricks and their shot at the champ (meaning they were also recently top 10).

But yeah, it was probably because he whined.

Really? So I'm the only one who remembers him crying about having to fight Condit after beating Fitch because he felt he already deserved his shot? Phone Post 3.0
9/11/13 1:22 PM
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Jone2tone - Whined his way into a title shot. Night as well whine all the way through it. Phone Post 3.0

So KO-ing Fitch and Kampman(spelling) and beating Carlos Condit did nothing for his case? Voted down
I'm not saying he's not a qualified contender, I'm saying he was complaining about his being the title contender even before the Fitch fight. Phone Post 3.0
9/11/13 1:33 PM
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Please will Hendricks stop being such a little bitch and shut up. does this guy not stop crying about something?
9/11/13 1:47 PM
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The only thing shady about this (aside from Jake Shields of course) is situation is Hendricks making up reasons as to why he doesn't want to get tested by VADA.

Why is the welterweight division being consumed by so much shade? 

9/11/13 1:47 PM
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The problem I have with vada is its literally independent. There's no governing body and the tests mean nothing to the UfC.

I'm not saying he did, but it makes it possible for someone like gsp to throw a bribe in there as a failsafe.

Maybe he paid them to ruin Johnnys test so if gsp gets kod or loses he can say oh well vada tested this and this and he came back positive. Phone Post

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