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9/12/13 5:55 AM
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Bellator Fan - Notice that MMALOGIC never denied saying that he hoped Bellator would fail. Cindy O take notes..... Phone Post 3.0

When did I say that?    how about when I say something you dont agree with you discuss it with me then and there instead of running away only to put words in my mouth months later.

9/12/13 6:00 AM
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Bellator Fan - Cindy you're a moron. I am sure he calls them "Bellashit" regularly because he hopes they succeed. LOGIC has said numerous times that he wants Bellator to fail because he doesn't believe there should be more than one major org. You have a blue name so search it yourself. Phone Post 3.0

Where did I say there should be only one MMA org?

I believe the market should decide how many orgs there should be.  if they want 2, great... 3, 4 or 5 awesome.  There are hundreds of shows all over the world.

Unfortunately for bellator and other would be UFC competitors the market has demonstrated over and over that it only wants One major national organization.  If the market wanted 2, the WEC would still be around. 

Based on this it is my opinion that spike would have been better off organizing the regional scene/promotions all over the world and licensing their content on the cheap instead of trying to run an mma promotion.  I would like spike to air MMA for the next century instead of just a few years... and I believe owning the "collegel football of mma" space would have been a more viable model long term.


Do you believe the market should be free and unfettered? 


Depends on what you believe a free and unfettered market is....  everyone has their own opinion on what that would look like.

 

9/12/13 6:35 AM
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dont forget to watch tomorrow's great card:

MAIN CARD (Spike TV, 9 p.m. ET)

    Patricio Freire vs. Diego Nunes - fw tournament
    Houston Alexander vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
    Akop Stepanyan vs. Justin Wilcox - fw tournament
    Desmond Green vs. Fabricio Guerreiro - fw tournament
    Andrew Fisher vs. Joe Taimanglo - fw tournament

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike.com, 7 p.m. ET)

    Savo Kosic vs. Hector Ramirez
    Derek Loffer vs. Mario Navarro
    Andy Murad vs. Gavin Sterritt
    Musa Toliver vs. Goiti Yamauchi
    Blagoi Ivanov vs. Manny Lara
    Nick Moghaddam vs. Virgil Zwicker
 

9/12/13 8:25 AM
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Shlemenko fought a guy whose last fight was a LOSS to Doug Marshall so they have him a title fight?!? lol Phone Post 3.0
9/12/13 8:25 AM
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9/12/13 8:37 AM
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1/7/13 2:49 PM

Boycott bellator. Boycott Spike. Phone Post 3.0
Plus take note on a few responses logic gave have been edited since the initial post. Phone Post 3.0
9/12/13 12:10 PM
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Larry Appleton - Shlemenko fought a guy whose last fight was a LOSS to Doug Marshall so they have him a title fight?!? lol Phone Post 3.0
In the event of an injury, its common for the guy who lost the #1 contender fight to replace the injured challenger. Phone Post
9/12/13 12:57 PM
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Bellator Fan - Here's a funny swing and miss by MMALOGIC on the EA situation.


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5/12/13 12:01 PM
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i dont get it,whats the big deal

Here's the basic difference between "material terms" and "terms".

"Material terms" means whatever they think is material. "terms" means whatever was specified in the other contract.

so if zuffa says we'll provide you dinner (and zuffa's dinner is steak at mortons) if eddie signed the contract they tried to trick him into, Bellator could simply provide him dinner by giving him a happy meal at mcdonalds.

Zuffa says we'll place you on fox. they have to match that term. they cant match it with spike.

they can only match it with spike in a "material" sense.

The same goes with ppv. They cant match the terms on zuffa's offer to be on the chael vs jones ppv or the gsp vs diaz ppv.

They can only match that "materially" by saying we will place you on a bellator ppv.

Happy meal in mcdonalds vs steak and lobster at Mortons.

Eddie is gonna destroy them in court... but they will never let it get to judgement. they will stall and then finally they will release him because if it goes eddie's way (which is likely) other fighters will have precedent in getting a quick injunction against them regarding the matching clause.

bellator and spike are scumbags for doing this. Phone Post 3.0
You know it never got to court right? Lawyers and legal processes pushed jt back another year and eddie had to settle cuz he couldn't afford to not fight. If it got to court who knows. Eddie did have a case, but they dragged their feet on it and waited him out Phone Post 3.0
9/12/13 5:09 PM
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6/20/13 6:05 PM
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MMALogic, I dont understand why you would root for a promotion to fail. I see you post a lot on here, and you really seem like a little boy with a personal vendeta.

it may seem that way... but im not rooting. talking reality is not rooting. I do however hate their business practices though.

I dont have a personal problem with their restrictive contracts - though i do believe it hurts them immensely because open contracts would mean better names for less money which would have likely been more successful in the ratings. There model just doesnt work with Game Theory.

My personal problem with them is that, ok you have restrictive contracts... fine. but then they take it to another level by keeping guys in court for no reason than to bleed the fighter dry.

they're doing it to eddie, did it to Jonathan brookins, and a bunch of other fighters.

That's the cancerous part I aim to erradicate from this sport. Phone Post 3.0

Where in that post does Logic say he WANTS BELLATOR TO FAIL or that he HOPES BELLATOR FAILS? Can you bold it for me, Dummy Boo-Boo?

LOL@ you posting Crows comment/opinion accusing Logic of "rooting" for them to fail him of it as your proof!

And based on your comment I'm assuming you are taking the bet so find the posts where Logic said what you claim or pay me my $50:) Wanting them to improve business practices relating to their contracts is a far-far cry from WANTING or HOPING they fail, idiot. LOL@ you!

 

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9/12/13 5:12 PM
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Bellator Fan - Here's a funny swing and miss by MMALOGIC on the EA situation.


MMALOGIC
5/12/13 12:01 PM
12 -
i dont get it,whats the big deal

Here's the basic difference between "material terms" and "terms".

"Material terms" means whatever they think is material. "terms" means whatever was specified in the other contract.

so if zuffa says we'll provide you dinner (and zuffa's dinner is steak at mortons) if eddie signed the contract they tried to trick him into, Bellator could simply provide him dinner by giving him a happy meal at mcdonalds.

Zuffa says we'll place you on fox. they have to match that term. they cant match it with spike.

they can only match it with spike in a "material" sense.

The same goes with ppv. They cant match the terms on zuffa's offer to be on the chael vs jones ppv or the gsp vs diaz ppv.

They can only match that "materially" by saying we will place you on a bellator ppv.

Happy meal in mcdonalds vs steak and lobster at Mortons.

Eddie is gonna destroy them in court... but they will never let it get to judgement. they will stall and then finally they will release him because if it goes eddie's way (which is likely) other fighters will have precedent in getting a quick injunction against them regarding the matching clause.

bellator and spike are scumbags for doing this. Phone Post 3.0

Lather, rinse, repeat...

Where in that post does Logic say he WANTS BELLATOR TO FAIL or that he HOPES BELLATOR FAILS? Can you bold it for me, Dummy Boo-Boo?

 

Cindy

9/12/13 5:16 PM
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Bellator Fan - Cindy O you can pay for my blue name when you are ready. Phone Post 3.0

I will gladly pay for your blue name and give you the extra $20 when you show me a post where Logic said he HOPES they fail or that he WANTS them to fail. You claim he has said it MANY times yet your still can't post a single one of his comments where he did.

First, acknowledge that you're taking the bet and stop being a little pussy about it.

 

Cindy

9/12/13 5:21 PM
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Bellatorfan got owned. Haha. Pay Cindy her $50...
9/12/13 6:17 PM
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Reed your a moron lol.
9/12/13 6:57 PM
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6/20/13 6:05 PM
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MMALogic, I dont understand why you would root for a promotion to fail. I see you post a lot on here, and you really seem like a little boy with a personal vendeta.

it may seem that way... but im not rooting. talking reality is not rooting. I do however hate their business practices though.

I dont have a personal problem with their restrictive contracts - though i do believe it hurts them immensely because open contracts would mean better names for less money which would have likely been more successful in the ratings. There model just doesnt work with Game Theory.

My personal problem with them is that, ok you have restrictive contracts... fine. but then they take it to another level by keeping guys in court for no reason than to bleed the fighter dry.

they're doing it to eddie, did it to Jonathan brookins, and a bunch of other fighters.

That's the cancerous part I aim to erradicate from this sport. Phone Post 3.0
He said, he wants to see their business practices change. Never did LOGIC say he wants to see BFC fail.

You're reaching Jack. Phone Post 3.0
9/12/13 7:34 PM
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6/20/13 6:05 PM
TheCrow13 -
MMALogic, I dont understand why you would root for a promotion to fail. I see you post a lot on here, and you really seem like a little boy with a personal vendeta.

it may seem that way... but im not rooting. talking reality is not rooting. I do however hate their business practices though.

I dont have a personal problem with their restrictive contracts - though i do believe it hurts them immensely because open contracts would mean better names for less money which would have likely been more successful in the ratings. There model just doesnt work with Game Theory.

My personal problem with them is that, ok you have restrictive contracts... fine. but then they take it to another level by keeping guys in court for no reason than to bleed the fighter dry.

they're doing it to eddie, did it to Jonathan brookins, and a bunch of other fighters.

That's the cancerous part I aim to erradicate from this sport. Phone Post 3.0
He said, he wants to see their business practices change. Never did LOGIC say he wants to see BFC fail.

You're reaching Jack. Phone Post 3.0
Requesting a boycott is expressive a desire to see them succeed? Sure buddy Phone Post 3.0
I think you meant "isn't expressing" and no. It is expressing a demand of them to change their business practices.

When blacks boycotted public transit did they want public transit to go away? Phone Post 3.0
9/12/13 9:30 PM
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Bellator Fan - Cindy O you can pay for my blue name when you are ready. Phone Post 3.0

I will gladly pay for your blue name and give you the extra $20 when you show me a post where Logic said he HOPES they fail or that he WANTS them to fail. You claim he has said it MANY times yet your still can't post a single one of his comments where he did.

First, acknowledge that you're taking the bet and stop being a little pussy about it.

 

Cindy

Cindy if you can't figure that out from the posts I provided than you need help. Just admit that you're a worthless POS and move on. Phone Post 3.0

She's a bigger asset to the forum than you.

Pound sand, fgt.

9/12/13 10:06 PM
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Damn if only 437k people watched that card lots of people missed the fuck out. That was a fun fight card and the main event was awesome Phone Post 3.0
9/12/13 10:13 PM
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Bellator Fan - Cindy O you can pay for my blue name when you are ready. Phone Post 3.0

I will gladly pay for your blue name and give you the extra $20 when you show me a post where Logic said he HOPES they fail or that he WANTS them to fail. You claim he has said it MANY times yet your still can't post a single one of his comments where he did.

First, acknowledge that you're taking the bet and stop being a little pussy about it.

 

Cindy

Cindy if you can't figure that out from the posts I provided than you need help. Just admit that you're a worthless POS and move on. Phone Post 3.0

She's a bigger asset to the forum than you.

Pound sand, fgt.


Every site needs a Bellator troll.  So he does bring something to the table here. 

9/12/13 10:19 PM
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Bellator Fan - Cindy you're pathetic....the end. Phone Post 3.0
Lol at you calling someone else pathetic. Phone Post 3.0
9/12/13 10:40 PM
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Found it! The Full Retard Thread! So many pathetic losers in this thread! Get a life nerds!

9/12/13 11:29 PM
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Found it! The Full Retard Thread! So many pathetic losers in this thread! Get a life nerds!

I think you meant "get lives nerds"

If you are going to attempt to insult us, please demonstrate proper subject-verb agreement. Phone Post 3.0
9/12/13 11:32 PM
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9/12/13 11:43 PM
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Once again, Bellator Fan take up a bet and refuse to hold his end of the deal, you are the worthless POS here.

He wants to be paid 50$ but will not agree to the bet directly, in case he loses.

Not only are you a morally bankrupt individual, you are also a welcher.
9/13/13 1:53 AM
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Found it! The Full Retard Thread! So many pathetic losers in this thread! Get a life nerds!

I think you meant "get lives nerds"

If you are going to attempt to insult us, please demonstrate proper subject-verb agreement. Phone Post 3.0

Oh shit King Nerd appears!

9/13/13 7:11 AM
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Found it! The Full Retard Thread! So many pathetic losers in this thread! Get a life nerds!

I think you meant "get lives nerds"

If you are going to attempt to insult us, please demonstrate proper subject-verb agreement. Phone Post 3.0

Oh shit King Nerd appears!

Hail to the king, baby. Phone Post 3.0

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