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51 percent believe fighters are taking some form of performance-enhancing drugs
47 percent are convinced that abstinence will benefit them on fight night
29 percent worry about a fighter dying inside the Octagon
41 percent believe Georges St. Pierre is the best MMA fighter on earth
16 percent admit that sweat is the grossest thing about their opponents
96 percent are opposed to having a transgender athlete compete in MMA
27 percent have competed against opponents who lost their bowels during a fight
74 percent are against promoter-mandated "super fights"
76 percent are in favor of a fighter's union

numbers transcribed by MMAMania.com...


9/10/13 2:48 PM
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How many fighters actually participated in this?
9/10/13 2:49 PM
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Names of the 4% that are cool w transgender fighters? Phone Post 3.0
9/10/13 2:53 PM
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The bowel movement thing is grossssssss.
9/10/13 2:55 PM
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9/10/13 3:01 PM
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lol @ the poll being 38 professional fighters.

"most" of them being from the UFC.

 

THAT is the source? They polled 38 fucking fighters....

9/10/13 3:04 PM
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So..  38 fighters were polled.

 

28 are in favor of union.

19 believe fighters are taking some form of performance-enhancing drugs
17 are convinced that abstinence will benefit them on fight night
11 worry about a fighter dying inside the Octagon
15 believe Georges St. Pierre is the best MMA fighter on earth
6 admit that sweat is the grossest thing about their opponents
36 are opposed to having a transgender athlete compete in MMA (So, two guys aren't)
10 have competed against opponents who lost their bowels during a fight
28 are against promoter-mandated "super fights"

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Extremely small sample size plus leading questions equal bad science. THis poll sucks.
9/10/13 3:14 PM
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No surprises really except 10 out of 38 fighters shit themselves.
9/10/13 3:40 PM
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So if only 6 think sweat is the grossest part... What do the majority think? Phone Post 3.0
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I read "union" as "unicorn" in the thread title.

9/10/13 4:18 PM
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38 fighters? Really?! What a pointless article. Phone Post 3.0
9/10/13 4:22 PM
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UGCTT_Blake - Extremely small sample size plus leading questions equal bad science. THis poll sucks.
Technically, if we are looking at the UFC, since most of the sample came from that org, the sample is around 10% of the population. That is not bad, obviously the efficacy of the poll depends on how varied the results are across the population, desired confidence levels, etc...

That being said, polling 10% of the UFC fighters is not a tight sample, but definitely not statistically insignificant, by any means. Phone Post 3.0
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lol @ the poll being 38 professional fighters.

"most" of them being from the UFC.

 

THAT is the source? They polled 38 fucking fighters....


Do you guys know how a poll works? If you want to find out what 25-35 year-old women watch on TV you don't poll EVERY SINGLE 25-35 year-old woman. Not even half, Not a quarter. Not a tenth.

TV ratings, politics, you name it usually use a very small sample size. For a TV show they may sample 1k people and project the results for 300+ million. So 38 is more than enough, if they did it properly, considering the number of pro MMA fighters.

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12SixElbow -

So..  38 fighters were polled.

 

28 are in favor of union.

19 believe fighters are taking some form of performance-enhancing drugs
17 are convinced that abstinence will benefit them on fight night
11 worry about a fighter dying inside the Octagon
15 believe Georges St. Pierre is the best MMA fighter on earth
6 admit that sweat is the grossest thing about their opponents
36 are opposed to having a transgender athlete compete in MMA (So, two guys aren't)
10 have competed against opponents who lost their bowels during a fight
28 are against promoter-mandated "super fights"

38 makes me think they polled the fighters from a particular area. Guys with similar circumstances. Phone Post
9/10/13 4:34 PM
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lol @ the poll being 38 professional fighters.

"most" of them being from the UFC.

 

THAT is the source? They polled 38 fucking fighters....


Do you guys know how a poll works? If you want to find out what 25-35 year-old women watch on TV you don't poll EVERY SINGLE 25-35 year-old woman. Not even half, Not a quarter. Not a tenth.

TV ratings, politics, you name it usually use a very small sample size. For a TV show they may sample 1k people and project the results for 300+ million. So 38 is more than enough, if they did it properly, considering the number of pro MMA fighters.


Um that maybe the norm but if you want better accuracy you get a larger sampling base, considering the total amount of fighters under contract with the UFC is small, a larger poll will get it more legitimacy.

Politics 101, the smaller the sampling, the less credibility it has.
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27% have fought Timmay? Phone Post 3.0
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UGCTT_Blake - Extremely small sample size plus leading questions equal bad science. THis poll sucks.
Technically, if we are looking at the UFC, since most of the sample came from that org, the sample is around 10% of the population. That is not bad, obviously the efficacy of the poll depends on how varied the results are across the population, desired confidence levels, etc...

That being said, polling 10% of the UFC fighters is not a tight sample, but definitely not statistically insignificant, by any means. Phone Post 3.0
With something as diverse as fighters opinion I find it hard to believe any real trends can be observed. Phone Post 3.0
9/10/13 4:38 PM
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UGCTT_Blake - Extremely small sample size plus leading questions equal bad science. THis poll sucks.
Technically, if we are looking at the UFC, since most of the sample came from that org, the sample is around 10% of the population. That is not bad, obviously the efficacy of the poll depends on how varied the results are across the population, desired confidence levels, etc...

That being said, polling 10% of the UFC fighters is not a tight sample, but definitely not statistically insignificant, by any means. Phone Post 3.0
With something as diverse as fighters opinion I find it hard to believe any real trends can be observed. Phone Post 3.0
With this size sampling. Phone Post 3.0
9/10/13 4:38 PM
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No thanks. Unions belong in the 60's. We don't need them to ruin MMA too.
9/10/13 4:48 PM
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Sample size sucks. Poll the entire roster and see what u get. Phone Post 3.0
9/10/13 5:11 PM
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I would like to see what number of the fighters are lower tier guys, mid tier, "elite", etc.
If 37 of the 38 were low level guys making $8k/fight that would mean the avg. income is $16k/yr (based off of 2 fights/yr). Add in one elite guy making 2 mil/yr and that raises it to $68210/yr.
With this small of a sample size it's hard to get a real good idea on how many guys really want a union.

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Cool, I'm a fan of infographics.

I don't think most fighters understand the ramifications of a union. I do think it would be better for the sport but ultimately it might hurt a lot of the fighters that are for it.

There are lots of ways a union can go. You raise the pay you also raise the bar for talent, meaning lower end guys stay amateur longer because their worth isn't enough to get the minimum pay. Also smaller orgs will have a harder time paying for cards and may fold up completely. If you only apply the union to the UFC, the same way that the other big sports limit negotiations with one org, other orgs will still suffer. There's a finite amount of money going into the sport, a chunk of which is being used to try to propel the sport forward into the mainstream. Allocating that money into areas where the money just leaves the sport may not be the best thing.
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ahle - I would like to see what number of the fighters are lower tier guys, mid tier, "elite", etc.
If 37 of the 38 were low level guys making $8k/fight that would mean the avg. income is $16k/yr (based off of 2 fights/yr). Add in one elite guy making 2 mil/yr and that raises it to $68210/yr.
With this small of a sample size it's hard to get a real good idea on how many guys really want a union.

Excellent point. The median is definitely more important with this type of survey Phone Post 3.0
9/10/13 7:18 PM
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This would've been real fun if they'd of had everyone on the UFC's roster participating, and some 3rd party collecting the data.

I'd want them to ask how many of the fighters are gay. Just out of curiosity.

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