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9/12/13 12:41 PM
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Tomato Can - The Rampage/Wand comparison is terrible. Wand is OLDER than Rampage, and Wand was the one coming into that fight having lost 3 of his last 4.
Fine. Name another 0-2 series in which the third fight had a differing outcome than the first two. How about Peter Aerts and Ernesto Hoost? Peter beat Ernesto twice and then Ernesto beat him. How does that work for you? We can do this all day...

It's not unprecedented. That was my only point. Phone Post 3.0

Again I don't really see the parallel. Didn't Hoost and Aerts fight like half a dozen times and all of them were very close?

Sure, I'm sure you can find cases where a guy went 0-2 and then won the 3rd fight, but that's sort of an oversimplification of the situation.
9/12/13 12:51 PM
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Malvert the Janitor - You detractors are right..

There is absolutely no precedent for a fighter winning a third fight after being beaten twice before...



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Always wondered if this was the only triology that went down the way it did?
9/12/13 12:55 PM
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Tomato Can - The Rampage/Wand comparison is terrible. Wand is OLDER than Rampage, and Wand was the one coming into that fight having lost 3 of his last 4.
Fine. Name another 0-2 series in which the third fight had a differing outcome than the first two. How about Peter Aerts and Ernesto Hoost? Peter beat Ernesto twice and then Ernesto beat him. How does that work for you? We can do this all day...

It's not unprecedented. That was my only point. Phone Post 3.0

Again I don't really see the parallel. Didn't Hoost and Aerts fight like half a dozen times and all of them were very close?

Sure, I'm sure you can find cases where a guy went 0-2 and then won the 3rd fight, but that's sort of an oversimplification of the situation.
Sure. Anything is an oversimplification until the actual fight. There are too many dynamic factors that could potentially come into play so discounting a different outcome is just as preposterous as assuming the same outcome.

Both have taken damage since their last fight. BJ doesn't like being away from his family and he's signed on to be away from them for a long time. There are a ton of contributing issues....Christ, this far out its very likely one of them will take an injury so the fight even happening is no guarantee.

Anything can happen. I don't see Frankie as so far beyond BJ that a different outcome couldn't happen. Phone Post 3.0
9/12/13 1:06 PM
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"Wand was the one coming into that fight having lost 3 of his last 4."

Frankie also has lost 3 of his last 4.
9/12/13 1:14 PM
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I really dont like this match up, glad to see BJ back but I think this is another excuse to have Frankie fight for the title. He is a bad match up for BJ and who knows where Bj's head is. Best case scenario is another Close decision where everyone bitches. Worst case is BJ comes to fight for two min gets discouraged and does nothing. Coming off of losses BJ should be given a gimmie fight to build his confidence back. This is a gift to Frankie to put him in another title fight.
9/12/13 1:20 PM
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sside maurice - "Wand was the one coming into that fight having lost 3 of his last 4."

Frankie also has lost 3 of his last 4.

Frankie is coming off a win and 2/3 of those losses were razor-thin.

Penn has lost 2 straight and they were both one-sided beatdowns.

Let's just say Penn has a LOT working against him in this fight and it just sucks a lot of the drama out of it for me. I certainly hope they're not going to try and headline a PPV with this.
9/12/13 1:27 PM
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sside maurice - "Wand was the one coming into that fight having lost 3 of his last 4."

Frankie also has lost 3 of his last 4.

Frankie is coming off a win and 2/3 of those losses were razor-thin.

Penn has lost 2 straight and they were both one-sided beatdowns.

Let's just say Penn has a LOT working against him in this fight and it just sucks a lot of the drama out of it for me. I certainly hope they're not going to try and headline a PPV with this.
One thing he doesn't have against him in this fight is a former/potential middleweight opponent.

Frankie has beaten BJ, yes. But, IMO, he can't hurt him like the monsters BJ is used to fighting. Phone Post 3.0
9/12/13 1:29 PM
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BJ Penn vs Frankie Edgar III? at 145 pounds? IN!
9/12/13 1:32 PM
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Don't care about who he fights I'm just happy Penn is back.
9/12/13 1:34 PM
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n their coaching TUF?? Sick!
9/12/13 1:37 PM
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paluka - really? Fuck these trilogies. Its the same fuckin fight. Who cares? BJ came back already 4-5 times. Always the same shit.
No one said you had to watch. Phone Post
9/12/13 1:41 PM
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ChaosOverkill -
Malvert the Janitor - You detractors are right..

There is absolutely no precedent for a fighter winning a third fight after being beaten twice before...



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I'm personally happy he's back I just want him to get rid of the "Fuck em up BJ" "You the man BJ" Yes men corner people.

Edgar is not a cakewalk and he needs people that will help him adjust mid fight not tell him he's doing fine no matter what he does.

This. All I can remember from the second fight was his corner men saying dumb shit like "go get that little shit bj" or "you know what you have to do, he's not better than you"
How about some real corner advice for once? Phone Post
9/12/13 3:30 PM
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Didn't think he would make that weight tbh, interesting to see what he's still got Phone Post 3.0
9/12/13 4:54 PM
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ChaosOverkill -
Malvert the Janitor - You detractors are right..

There is absolutely no precedent for a fighter winning a third fight after being beaten twice before...



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I'm personally happy he's back I just want him to get rid of the "Fuck em up BJ" "You the man BJ" Yes men corner people.

Edgar is not a cakewalk and he needs people that will help him adjust mid fight not tell him he's doing fine no matter what he does.

This. All I can remember from the second fight was his corner men saying dumb shit like "go get that little shit bj" or "you know what you have to do, he's not better than you"
How about some real corner advice for once? Phone Post
This. Get rid of Parillo's meathead ass and get some smart cornermen. Can't stand that tough guy wannabe. Phone Post 3.0
9/12/13 5:05 PM
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9/12/13 6:45 PM
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I just wish he was fighting someone other than Edgar. Phone Post 3.0
9/12/13 6:47 PM
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Holy size difference, Batman!! Glad those days are done!!

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9/12/13 6:48 PM
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9/12/13 6:50 PM
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9/12/13 6:51 PM
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9/12/13 6:55 PM
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Scrolled through the news, saw this. Wtf?!? At 145?! WTF?!?! Awesomeness Phone Post 3.0
9/12/13 6:59 PM
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It fucking sucks that we have to wait until april for this. Thats a long time away! Phone Post
9/12/13 7:04 PM
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teamquestnorth - It fucking sucks that we have to wait until april for this. Thats a long time away! Phone Post
BJ's likely pretty heavy. He needs the time. This is him in July...


Spare tire is spare... Phone Post 3.0
9/12/13 7:16 PM
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ChaosOverkill -
Malvert the Janitor - You detractors are right..

There is absolutely no precedent for a fighter winning a third fight after being beaten twice before...



Phone Post 3.0

I'm personally happy he's back I just want him to get rid of the "Fuck em up BJ" "You the man BJ" Yes men corner people.

Edgar is not a cakewalk and he needs people that will help him adjust mid fight not tell him he's doing fine no matter what he does.

This. All I can remember from the second fight was his corner men saying dumb shit like "go get that little shit bj" or "you know what you have to do, he's not better than you"
How about some real corner advice for once? Phone Post
This. Get rid of Parillo's meathead ass and get some smart cornermen. Can't stand that tough guy wannabe. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah it has to be frustrating when yout getting beat and getting zero good advice, frustrates me as a fan lol. Phone Post
9/12/13 7:33 PM
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teamquestnorth - It fucking sucks that we have to wait until april for this. Thats a long time away! Phone Post
BJ's likely pretty heavy. He needs the time. This is him in July...


Spare tire is spare... Phone Post 3.0
I have that shirt...Roots of Fight owns Phone Post

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