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I don't like Caraway but he would bitch slap Hondas coach
9/19/13 7:06 PM
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GregNoActionJackson -  Why was Ronda chilling at the bar with miesha and carraway in the first place. Alcohol starts shit. Side note didn't Ronda mention in the past when she drinks she gets slutty, I wonder who got lucky Phone Post

Ronda wasn't chilling at the bar, she was getting a drink at the only bar there was and then Miesha complained that she stood too close to her man. Ronda and her guys might've come off worse by the time that whole posturing contest was over but Miesha started it.

It think we'll see a lot of situations similar to this one over the course of the season.
I dk it looked edited. She originally said she was going to get a glass of wine but it looked like they cut clips and I believe she ordered another drink while sitting there, vodka redbull maybe. Phone Post
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9/19/13 7:07 PM
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bradical - You're probably one of those guys that thinks you could take a pro fighter in a "street fight" because you trane and lift weights a little.

Here's some reality for you. Dude is a twiggy framed kicked boxer with absolutely no cauliflower ears, trying to pick a fight, with a excellent wrestler and bjj blackbelt in a "street fight" situation which pretty much always favors the grappler (not to mention I guarantee Caraway would knock his ass out standing up if he wanted).

I don't think you can even comprehend how good you have to be to be 3-1 in the UFC in the mens 135lb division let alone any division.

Also he trains at Team Alpha Male and those guys can't lose a fight these days it seems.

You are delusional.



first off, I train at a very good team (Arizona Combat Sports) and have sparred many rounds with UFC fighters and even with a title contender.

I know exactly how good UFC fighters are, and I know exactly how hard it is to succeed in the UFC



I didn't even say that this dude would beat Caraway up.
I just took issue with the idea that he would automatically win a street fight, as if only guys in the UFC can fight, or street fights are exactly like MMA fights

but you got all sorts of upset and put words in my mouth.
you didn't even take the minute to read my comment, without getting defensive and talking about records and camps.

Hard to put words in your mouth for you when we are typing here, its a pretty straight forward medium.

I find the fact that you think a "street fight" changes anything when we are talking about fighting is just ridiculous. There's no sort of training you can do that is going to make you better in a fight than what a professional fighter is doing. The "street" makes no difference here and this has been proven time and time again. Fighting is fighting is fighting.

Do you think because it would be a street fight the non mma "street fighter" would have more tools? Like mma fighters can't do the same amount of illegal moves or don't know they exist? Also who do you think is in better condition and more athletic, a street fighter who fights allot in the street or tanes for street fights, or a PRO fighter who fights all day everyday as their job?

I'm not upset at all right now, I just think you don't know what your talking about. It's like the same argument of kata vs ne waza. If your practing ne waza of course your going to be better.

Callaway is actually engaging in real fights with the most limited rules we legally allow and consistently winning at the top level. There is no other way to better prepare yourself for a "street fight", that I know of.

of course a trained fighter is better then a street fighter. please point out where I said anything indicating otherwise.


my point is that Edmund is a professional kickboxer, not some street fighter, and the idea that Caraway would starch him (which I interpret to meaning knocking him out) just because he is in the UFC is fucking dumb


nobody who has sparred good kickboxers thinks like that.
9/19/13 7:25 PM
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ReturnofTheShah - Armenians have hot Aryan warrior blood.

This is due to them having to defend themselves for their entire existence.

Not being able to reconcile between defending your life in Armenia and picking a fight with TUF Coach' boyfriend on national TV is pure douchebag behavior. Phone Post 3.0
9/19/13 7:26 PM
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How far has the support come for Bryan Caraway? A month ago, people would be calling him a jackass. Now people are defending him.

The truth is coming out?
9/19/13 7:27 PM
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GregNoActionJackson -  Why was Ronda chilling at the bar with miesha and carraway in the first place. Alcohol starts shit. Side note didn't Ronda mention in the past when she drinks she gets slutty, I wonder who got lucky Phone Post

Ronda wasn't chilling at the bar, she was getting a drink at the only bar there was and then Miesha complained that she stood too close to her man. Ronda and her guys might've come off worse by the time that whole posturing contest was over but Miesha started it.

It think we'll see a lot of situations similar to this one over the course of the season.
I dk it looked edited. She originally said she was going to get a glass of wine but it looked like they cut clips and I believe she ordered another drink while sitting there, vodka redbull maybe. Phone Post
Reality TV, how does it work? Phone Post
That's my point Phone Post
Yeah man, I was backing you up. How anyone can watch a segment like that and take it at face value, mind bottling.

If you watch it back, at one point miesha is talking but her mouth isn't moving. Honda also seemed to be able to teleport round the room as the argument unfolded. A few people did.

Incredible stuff. Phone Post
9/19/13 7:29 PM
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bradical - You're probably one of those guys that thinks you could take a pro fighter in a "street fight" because you trane and lift weights a little.

Here's some reality for you. Dude is a twiggy framed kicked boxer with absolutely no cauliflower ears, trying to pick a fight, with a excellent wrestler and bjj blackbelt in a "street fight" situation which pretty much always favors the grappler (not to mention I guarantee Caraway would knock his ass out standing up if he wanted).

I don't think you can even comprehend how good you have to be to be 3-1 in the UFC in the mens 135lb division let alone any division.

Also he trains at Team Alpha Male and those guys can't lose a fight these days it seems.

You are delusional.



first off, I train at a very good team (Arizona Combat Sports) and have sparred many rounds with UFC fighters and even with a title contender.

I know exactly how good UFC fighters are, and I know exactly how hard it is to succeed in the UFC



I didn't even say that this dude would beat Caraway up.
I just took issue with the idea that he would automatically win a street fight, as if only guys in the UFC can fight, or street fights are exactly like MMA fights

but you got all sorts of upset and put words in my mouth.
you didn't even take the minute to read my comment, without getting defensive and talking about records and camps.

Hard to put words in your mouth for you when we are typing here, its a pretty straight forward medium.

I find the fact that you think a "street fight" changes anything when we are talking about fighting is just ridiculous. There's no sort of training you can do that is going to make you better in a fight than what a professional fighter is doing. The "street" makes no difference here and this has been proven time and time again. Fighting is fighting is fighting.

Do you think because it would be a street fight the non mma "street fighter" would have more tools? Like mma fighters can't do the same amount of illegal moves or don't know they exist? Also who do you think is in better condition and more athletic, a street fighter who fights allot in the street or tanes for street fights, or a PRO fighter who fights all day everyday as their job?

I'm not upset at all right now, I just think you don't know what your talking about. It's like the same argument of kata vs ne waza. If your practing ne waza of course your going to be better.

Callaway is actually engaging in real fights with the most limited rules we legally allow and consistently winning at the top level. There is no other way to better prepare yourself for a "street fight", that I know of.

of course a trained fighter is better then a street fighter. please point out where I said anything indicating otherwise.


my point is that Edmund is a professional kickboxer, not some street fighter, and the idea that Caraway would starch him (which I interpret to meaning knocking him out) just because he is in the UFC is fucking dumb


nobody who has sparred good kickboxers thinks like that.

I honestly can't tell if your trolling me, or you missed watching UFC 1-5.

You think a professional kicker boxer who hasn't even fought at the top levels of kick boxing has a chance vs an professional mma fighter that's tearing it up in the UFC in a street fight?

Ask the Reem who actually fights at the TOP level of kick-boxing and is a World Champ (unlike Edmund or whatever his name is) how well kickboxing translates to the land of MMA, which is in fact much closer or the closet thing we have to a "street fight" or a real fight. Not to mention the Reem actually is an MMA fighter first of all.

Yes Caraway would starch him, after he takes him down within 10 seconds.

Starch also a metaphor for Finish, as in Starching a shirt means your finished with it. Thus he would starch him in under 2 minutes if Edmund could even survive that long.

For saying you train you sure don't know much about fighting.

You can keep backpedaling an trying to save face all you want but you can't fix stupid or ignorance, that's up to you.

9/19/13 7:32 PM
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I'm also not hear to waste my time in a flame war with someone who keeps regurgitating the same non-sense over and over and think that makes your argument any better because you posted the same thing after something I said.

Enjoy your ignore.
9/19/13 7:33 PM
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oh no, little baby boy ignored me on a message board because he disagreed
9/19/13 7:39 PM
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ajl416az - oh no, little baby boy ignored me on a message board because he disagreed

You are right about starching a shirt stiff, that's what I'm saying Calloway will do to Edmund with a little GNP after he takes him down. Doesn't change the fact that you're completely wrong and I'm not the only one here pointing it out.

Butthurt much?
9/19/13 7:44 PM
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Kentpaul - I don't like Caraway but he would bitch slap Hondas coach

I've always been a Ronda fan... but at the UFC liquid pool party I met Bryan and Miesha and they were so nice!

I am now Team Tate!

9/19/13 7:45 PM
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9/19/13 7:51 PM
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here is my original post

"yeah because having MMA fights is the only way to be good at fighting or coaching

lol"

and you put all sorts of words in my mouth, and brought up how mma fighters are better then street fighters (not sure why?) after that


Yes, Caraway would be the favorite over an older kickboxing coach with 2 MMA fights, in a regulated MMA fight.

but I'll still pick the gang of crazy Armenian fighters over Caraway and Master Toddy if we are still talking about a street fight, where you can get punched in the back of the head/stomped/soccer kicked while you are trying to pass guard or finish your double leg
9/19/13 8:03 PM
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I'm not the only one thinking - TGTFO?
9/19/13 8:22 PM
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We are a passionate people. U leave us alone u Turkish bastard Phone Post 3.0
9/19/13 8:23 PM
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Kentpaul - I don't like Caraway but he would bitch slap Hondas coach

I've always been a Ronda fan... but at the UFC liquid pool party I met Bryan and Miesha and they were so nice!

I am now Team Tate!


You see it is all about perception, because you have actually met them, and came away from that encounter thinking they are really nice people, and in reality they probably are a nice couple. But I and most others will never meet them in real life, so therefore we can only judge them and others by what we see and read, and base our opinions of them whether they be right or wrong off that.
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9/19/13 9:27 PM
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Caraway is of Turkish decent.... Probably Phone Post 3.0
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'here is my original post

"yeah because having MMA fights is the only way to be good at fighting or coaching
lol"

and you put all sorts of words in my mouth...'

I took you to be disagreeing with the claim that Caraway would beat Ronda's coach in a street fight. I assume Ronda's coach is a much better fighter than the average person but he would obviously be at a huge disadvantage against an accomplished MMA fighter.

9/19/13 11:59 PM
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Look I'm not going to argue who's a better fighter. But you get in a street fight with one Armenian, you better roll deep, cause you're going to be fighting him and everyone he's there with.

If that fight broke down there at the bar, it would be Carraway vs the Armenian Mafia.
9/20/13 12:12 AM
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That's the way it seemed to me too.

Shit talking for the sake of shit talking. He knew there were cameras everywhere and zero chance of a physical altercation, so he tried to be a tough guy.

Honda and her gang are coming off like douchebags after these first two episodes.

I bet camera editing has a LOT to do with it, but they just seem really immature.

Wrong. If an Armenian gets in your face 99.99% it's not posturing. He really wants to fight your ass. Georgians are the same way. It's just the way they're wired.
That's 100% not true. You must be Armenian. Phone Post 3.0
9/20/13 12:18 AM
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Secureg - The kings of shit talking idiots Phone Post 3.0

That's the way it seemed to me too.

Shit talking for the sake of shit talking. He knew there were cameras everywhere and zero chance of a physical altercation, so he tried to be a tough guy.

Honda and her gang are coming off like douchebags after these first two episodes.

I bet camera editing has a LOT to do with it, but they just seem really immature.

Wrong. If an Armenian gets in your face 99.99% it's not posturing. He really wants to fight your ass. Georgians are the same way. It's just the way they're wired.
That's 100% not true. You must be Armenian. Phone Post 3.0
I don't have a count of how many Armenians I've seen get loud with anyone, but the number of fights I've seen erupt is maybe 3. Armenian Power guys, sure they're down and all that gangster business, but they're a gang and that's what gangs do. Most of the time it's just posture, just like any other culture.

I lived in Glendale and went to high school with a bunch of Armenians. Phone Post 3.0
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"Grab her ass Brian" Phone Post 3.0
9/20/13 1:46 AM
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It's funny. East Coast Armenians in my experience are generally intelligent, studious, successful types. And on the West Coast you have the Karo type.

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