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9/19/13 1:35 PM
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Rtchamp15
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Hendricks is going to lose a lot of fans from this. He's making it seem like he's the one with something to hide. Phone Post
9/19/13 1:37 PM
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1a1 - GSP should just say publicly that he no longer wants to do testing. Wait for people to claim that he is a cheater, then say he wants to have both WADA and VADA testing.


Then wait again and say no testing......just repeat the process over and over.

 


Exactly.  The guy can't win. 

 

The sanctioning bodies and the UFC aren't willing to pay for extra testing.  So when GSP tries to pay for testing himself . . . the trolls argue that it just means he's got the testing entity in his pocket.  If he therefore stops paying for his own testing . . . the trolls will argue he must be hiding something.  If he tests clean on the government sponsored tests . . . the trolls argue that he's "fooled" the tests. 

At the end of the day, when wealth is involved and cheaters can be assisted by expensive experts, it can be almost impossible to catch them from a testing standpoint.  Lance Armstrong showed that.  It took the testimony of his old teammates to bust him--not the drug tests. 

So long as the trolls know that, GSP will never be able to win this debate publicly.  To them, no testing means he's cheating, government testing means he's cheating, and testing clean only means he's cheating but has "fooled" the tests.

Personally, I think he's clean.  He's publicly claimed to be clean way more (and way more aggressively) than he had any need to.  Armstrong did that too, but I think Armstrong was a special case.  Most cheaters, IMO, downplay and ignore accusations, and they don't rail against doping like GSP has.  To get busted now--either based on the tests or on the testimony of former friends/teammates--would be a tremendous embarrassment.  If he was a cheater I think he would've kept a lower profile on this issue than he has.  JMHO.

9/19/13 1:48 PM
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I stopped believing at "losing millions" Phone Post 3.0
9/19/13 1:48 PM
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Pretty sure if GSP fails or denies to continuing the testing, the AC will take it as a failed test, and pull his license for the event. Pretty sure this happened to a boxer and the bout was cancelled and he lost out on a ton of money.

Its all BS, anyone who subjects themselves to extra testing "to prove a point" is a absolute fool. When these guys are crying they are not paid enough they will risk cancelling a fight to show the fans they arent using. The local AC is responsible for testing, in reality that is the only test that should matter.

Hate to break it to people, sport was better when everyone was juicing.

9/19/13 2:03 PM
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Hendricks is looking bad from this. Beyond all the other stuff mentioned in this thread, on the MMA Hour, Hendricks stopped short of agreeing to WADA (which was his suggestion). He said he can't afford it, and he'd only consider it if GSP picks up the $30k price tag for his tests.

What a fiasco.
9/19/13 2:08 PM
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Hendricks has jumped the shark with his latest comments. Phone Post 3.0
9/19/13 2:57 PM
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bjj red belt - I think we have to consider all the options here if we truly want to be fair. MMALOGIC's post has shown us that there is a possibility that GSP is just agreeing to do all these tests to convince the public he is completely clean while that may not actually be the case.

Read Tyler Hamilton's book on the blood doping scandal in professional cycling if you do not believe that money can help you pass drug tests. As Hamilton stated in a BBC interview regarding how the USPS team averted detection from Tour de France tests, "they had good doctors, but ours were better."

I could be completely wrong, but we may be witnessing the MMA version of Lance Armstrong in our welterweight champion. Phone Post
There is no issue here. There is not a speck of evidence to imply that GSP has ever cheated...just empty accusations. Like others have said, the guy can't win. He tried to go above and beyond with additional testing and Hendricks has effectively side stepped and threw more accusations at him that make no sense. I'm not even a big GSP fan but this is getting ridiculous. Phone Post
9/19/13 2:59 PM
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MMALOGIC -

You can use Vada and "olympic style" drug testing to get an edge over your opponent.  if you got the dollars and the doctors you can beat Vada whereas it would be significantly harder for your opponent who cant financially afford to do so.

the current testing is about the fairest you can get.  improve the testing and all you do is give the guys at the top an even bigger advantage as they have the money to beat whatever you throw at them.

Even the head of wada conceded that they were losing the battle.

Please explain how undergoing additional testing on top of the NSAC testing would give GSP an advantage. That makes no sense. Phone Post
9/19/13 3:08 PM
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Johny and his camp's logic is getting progressively more and more confusing. Phone Post 3.0
9/19/13 3:33 PM
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Rtchamp15 - Hendricks is going to lose a lot of fans from this. He's making it seem like he's the one with something to hide. Phone Post
He lost a lot of fans the moment his quotes started making headlines. Phone Post
9/19/13 3:39 PM
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ThatKickDidntHuroooohhhhhhhh - Johny and his camp's logic is getting progressively more and more confusing. Phone Post 3.0

This.  Hendricks went all in on 2, 7 off suit and GSP called him.

9/19/13 3:53 PM
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MMALOGIC -

You can use Vada and "olympic style" drug testing to get an edge over your opponent.  if you got the dollars and the doctors you can beat Vada whereas it would be significantly harder for your opponent who cant financially afford to do so.

the current testing is about the fairest you can get.  improve the testing and all you do is give the guys at the top an even bigger advantage as they have the money to beat whatever you throw at them.

Even the head of wada conceded that they were losing the battle.

Good post. Phone Post 3.0

Can you read?

9/19/13 5:12 PM
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I dont understand why Johnny and some retarded UGers think that VADA are exclusively sponsoring GSP? They post a pic like that whenever someone new joins the programme lol. It came down to it and ol Johnny boy has something to hide.

 


Yeah, everyone is being retarded. BJ Penn did the same test for his fight against Rory (same camp as GSP) and people would have gone crazy and thrown accusations if Rory didn't except the VADA testing.


You're all retarded.... VERY, VERY, VERY RETARDED.
9/19/13 6:04 PM
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JStrongMMA - I can't wait for this guy to eat elbow sandwiches. Phone Post
This, I never used to care either way about him but now he seems like a fucking whinny little bitch, if he doesn't want to know about PEDS or not ten stop talking about it every chance you get. Phone Post 3.0
9/19/13 6:16 PM
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Sounds like Hendricks is the only one not doing extra testing Phone Post
9/19/13 7:31 PM
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I know one thing for sure, Americans were born and bred to lie and cheat.

It's becoming. boring.
9/19/13 8:20 PM
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So Hendricks won't do extra testing because if GSP tests positive Hendricks won't get to fight for the belt.  But GSP is already testing and the only one not doing extra testing is Hendricks.  So Hendricks somehow thinks if he starts doing the testing himself it will make GSP test positive?

How does this make any sense?

9/19/13 9:50 PM
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9/19/13 11:14 PM
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If Hendricks camp really said this..and I don't know if they really did. It would make them the biggest cock faggots there is.

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