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9/28/13 2:02 AM
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/ufc-cuts-yushin-okami-tuf-16-runner-mike-000903036--mma.html;_ylt=A2KJjb1bHkZSLggAdJNNbK5_

 

His explanation:

"He's been with us forever. He was always a tough guy and was right up there, but it's almost like he'd become a gatekeeper. I like Okami, and you've heard me say this many times, that a win over Yushin Okami meant something. But, he was never able to get over the hump and win one of those [significant] fights. We have a lot of guys coming in and I've been saying this all year: We have a full roster and there are guys who deserve opportunities. When you bring guys in, someone has to go. That's why these fights are so meaningful."

 

Just passing it along

9/28/13 2:03 AM
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Danas a hypocrite Phone Post
9/28/13 2:04 AM
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"he beats up guys we want him to lose to and i can do whatever i want"
9/28/13 2:11 AM
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He deserved at least one more chance IMO
9/28/13 2:13 AM
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he could definitely beat either kennedy, rockhold and a lot of other top names
9/28/13 2:14 AM
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If not "getting over the hump" is grounds for getting booted from the UFC then why was Michael Bisping about to headline a card til he gto injured?

9/28/13 2:17 AM
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Marquardt and Munoz were pretty freaking big back to back wins. Phone Post
9/28/13 2:18 AM
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you know op if you're going to link a quote, you could at least link the story where the original quote was taken from

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/ufc-cuts-yushin-okami-tuf-16-runner-mike-000903036--mma.html;_ylt=A2KJjb1bHkZSLggAdJNNbK5_

just saying

9/28/13 2:20 AM
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you know op if you're going to link a quote, you could at least link the story where the original quote was taken from

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/ufc-cuts-yushin-okami-tuf-16-runner-mike-000903036--mma.html;_ylt=A2KJjb1bHkZSLggAdJNNbK5_

just saying


Sorry I thought that was just a link to Iole's profile or something I don't post stories often, it just went up on facebook and copied it. sorry I'll fix it

 

9/28/13 2:21 AM
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you know op if you're going to link a quote, you could at least link the story where the original quote was taken from

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/ufc-cuts-yushin-okami-tuf-16-runner-mike-000903036--mma.html;_ylt=A2KJjb1bHkZSLggAdJNNbK5_

just saying

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If not "getting over the hump" is grounds for getting booted from the UFC then why was Michael Bisping about to headline a card til he gto injured?

he never got a title shot Phone Post 3.0
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Total shit.
9/28/13 2:21 AM
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Credibility for the sport is lost, but fuck it....let's have some good fights! That's all Dana's looking for. Phone Post 3.0
9/28/13 2:21 AM
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With a cut like this, (even being a huge Yushin Okami fan) I was looking for something far greater. Some contractual dispute, some ridiculous requests on Okami's part, some huge sum of money that couldn't be agreed upon, etc.

This reasoning simply won't suffice.

If a win over Okami "means something," then why would he be included in the "someone has to go" statement? I have stuck up for just about every decision Dana and the UFC has made, understanding their point of view. I dont here.

I have purchased 10 of the last 13 UFC pay-per-views (many more, this is just what I quickly counted). I've purchased $50 cards that even I balked at, simply out of habit. Sometimes it's a large group of friends for a marquee fight, sometimes it's just me and my dog.

This cut ensures that it will be a very long time before I give them my money again. I'll catch them at BW3's or a bar from now on.

9/28/13 2:22 AM
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OnlyTheStrongSurvive -  Marquardt and Munoz were pretty freaking big back to back wins. Phone Post

Nah totally worthless for the purposes of justifying the cut. 

 

Wait didn't WEidman get a titleshot for beating that Munoz guy?

9/28/13 2:25 AM
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The key here is . Was Okamis contract up?? If it was and they didn't resign him are they forced to resign him?
I love Okami but In that hypothetical situation explain to be are they obligated to sign him? Phone Post
9/28/13 2:26 AM
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If not "getting over the hump" is grounds for getting booted from the UFC then why was Michael Bisping about to headline a card til he gto injured?

he never got a title shot Phone Post 3.0

And??

The quote attributed to Dana White was "he (Okami) was never able to get over the hump and win one of those [significant] fights."

This also applies to Bisping, who has lost every one of the 'significant' fights he has had like Hendo, Sonnen and Belfort, yet he was about to headline an event until he got injured.

9/28/13 2:27 AM
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caseharts -  The key here is . Was Okamis contract up?? If it was and they didn't resign him are they forced to resign him?
I love Okami but In that hypothetical situation explain to be are they obligated to sign him? Phone Post

That's not a cut then, that's a opting not to renew and I don't remember it happening to a top 10 fighter besides Rampage who didn't want to anyways.

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What a fuckin goof.
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you know op if you're going to link a quote, you could at least link the story where the original quote was taken from

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/ufc-cuts-yushin-okami-tuf-16-runner-mike-000903036--mma.html;_ylt=A2KJjb1bHkZSLggAdJNNbK5_

just saying

I don't frequent yahoo. What's wrong with mania? Phone Post

well kevin iole wrote a story and got a quote from dana. then mma mania, copy and pasted that quote and created a story around it, and linked back to iole's article. if someone is going to link to the original quote from dana, i think the click should go to the person who originally got the quote, not the person who cut and pasted. 

and thanks for changing the link  OP. VTFU

9/28/13 2:28 AM
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Pretty shocking for sure. Haven't read the article but I too am wondering if his contract was up and they didn't renew it.

In for Dana's UG exclusive explanation (contract up yes or no). Phone Post
9/28/13 2:29 AM
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you know op if you're going to link a quote, you could at least link the story where the original quote was taken from

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/ufc-cuts-yushin-okami-tuf-16-runner-mike-000903036--mma.html;_ylt=A2KJjb1bHkZSLggAdJNNbK5_

just saying

I don't frequent yahoo. What's wrong with mania? Phone Post

well kevin iole wrote a story and got a quote from dana. then mma mania, copy and pasted that quote and created a story around it, and linked back to iole's article. if someone is going to link to the original quote from dana, i think the click should go to the person who originally got the quote, not the person who cut and pasted. 

and thanks for changing the link  OP. VTFU

I agree for legitimacy. I have my personal issues with lole but at least he got a good quote. Phone Post
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you know op if you're going to link a quote, you could at least link the story where the original quote was taken from

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/ufc-cuts-yushin-okami-tuf-16-runner-mike-000903036--mma.html;_ylt=A2KJjb1bHkZSLggAdJNNbK5_

just saying

I don't frequent yahoo. What's wrong with mania? Phone Post

well kevin iole wrote a story and got a quote from dana. then mma mania, copy and pasted that quote and created a story around it, and linked back to iole's article. if someone is going to link to the original quote from dana, i think the click should go to the person who originally got the quote, not the person who cut and pasted. 

and thanks for changing the link  OP. VTFU


No worries man, not used to doing it but I seem to be in some groups and pages that get news pretty fast.

9/28/13 2:29 AM
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So going by all that, why the fuck isn't Roy Nelson gone? He can't get over the hump, a win over him means something, the only difference is Dana doesn't like him.

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caseharts -  The key here is . Was Okamis contract up?? If it was and they didn't resign him are they forced to resign him?
I love Okami but In that hypothetical situation explain to be are they obligated to sign him? Phone Post

That's not a cut then, that's a opting not to renew and I don't remember it happening to a top 10 fighter besides Rampage who didn't want to anyways.

I agree but can you hold it against them if they choose not to resign him?? What if they requested less money etc? We don't know. I think he deserved another fight and if it was the end of his contract keep him on a fight to fight basis but if he loses his next fight cut him Phone Post
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