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SO according to Fightmatrix his last two wins were both top 7 wins

9/28/13 3:42 AM
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The Pendulum - So going by all that, why the fuck isn't Roy Nelson gone? He can't get over the hump, a win over him means something, the only difference is Dana doesn't like him.

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Dana doesn't like Roy Nelson? By that logic shouldn't that go against what your saying?

Omani does not have fan appeal that Nelson has, end of story. Dana harps on about Nelson's beard and weight but he still recognises that Nelson does have a following.

Okami is a great fighter. He's just not interesting. Credibility be damned. Phone Post 3.0
I think you've misunderstood what I'm saying.

What I was getting at is that Dana hates Roy, but he seems to think Okami is awesome. That's the only difference between the two going by what Dana said.

So why would he get rid of Yushin when he could get rid of a pain in his arse? Phone Post
Roy is a way bigger draw. That's it. He's also me likely to beat Cain than Okami is to beat Chris W. Just saying. Not saying he should be cut but be honest about their differences. Phone Post
Way bigger draw in the highest drawing division. I'd honestly think that Yushin would have a better chance to beat Chris than Roy would to beat Cain. It would be worse than when Roy got turned 180 by Arlovski. Phone Post
We simply disagree then. I see Chris as a far better wrestler, grappler and much much better striker. He's also much faster and more Athletic. Just my 2 cents. Roy Cabby defend the takedown but has a serious punchers chance. He hits way harder and has a way better chin than Cain. But ya he'd probably lose Phone Post
9/28/13 3:43 AM
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Why the hell is khaldikov on here?? Phone Post
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I hope he gets picked up by a top organization and can string some big wins together ... Sucks to see him go cause I've always enjoyed him , but I'll watch him fight no matter what organization he ends up ... I just hope he gets paid what he deserves ...



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9/28/13 3:44 AM
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Vu and what is the numbers to the right mean ? Phone Post 3.0
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Just before the Alan Belcher fight
Why the hell is khaldikov on here?? Phone Post

The winning streak and way he was winning fights and potential as champ, around this time there was a lot of talk about him and his hype he went on the wipe the floor with Manhoef so top 15 at least is about right

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Vu and what is the numbers to the right mean ? Phone Post 3.0

Fightmatrix scoring system how they determine rank there's an FAQ on their site about it

9/28/13 3:48 AM
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Why the hell is khaldikov on here?? Phone Post

The winning streak and way he was winning fights and potential as champ, around this time there was a lot of talk about him and his hype he went on the wipe the floor with Manhoef so top 15 at least is about right

I know but man I wouldn't even put him top 15. Idk maybe I'm crazy but he isn't beating most guys in the ufc Phone Post
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9/28/13 3:49 AM
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7    Mark Munoz
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Rank on the 1st of September before Yushin and Costa lost and Souza won

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9/28/13 3:51 AM
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Why the hell is khaldikov on here?? Phone Post

The winning streak and way he was winning fights and potential as champ, around this time there was a lot of talk about him and his hype he went on the wipe the floor with Manhoef so top 15 at least is about right

I know but man I wouldn't even put him top 15. Idk maybe I'm crazy but he isn't beating most guys in the ufc Phone Post

I don't know enough about him, it's the same way ASkren entered the top ten at WW, pure potential and the dominance, even with the Jay Hieron win

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9 1  Mamed Khalidov
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Rank on the 1st of September before Yushin and Costa lost and Souza won

Wtf how bus the khaldikov guy above shlemenko? Or Carmont or Larkin or chael. Wtf Phone Post
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Just before the Alan Belcher fight
Why the hell is khaldikov on here?? Phone Post

The winning streak and way he was winning fights and potential as champ, around this time there was a lot of talk about him and his hype he went on the wipe the floor with Manhoef so top 15 at least is about right

I know but man I wouldn't even put him top 15. Idk maybe I'm crazy but he isn't beating most guys in the ufc Phone Post

I don't know enough about him, it's the same way ASkren entered the top ten at WW, pure potential and the dominance, even with the Jay Hieron win

I gotcha I folliw him he's cool and exciting but Wtf. I also firmly believe askeren gets handled by rory Lawler Kos and Hendricks. I can see him beating Condit or kampann though Phone Post
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Wtf how bus the khaldikov guy above shlemenko? Or Carmont or Larkin or chael. Wtf Phone Post

They have an inactivity limit so that's why Chael isn't there, this is before Carmont's last win and why would Larkin be there? he lost to Carmont in April and only ahs the one win over Lawler at MW

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SChlemenko is 13 and this was before his latest win, all likelyhood he's in the top 10 on the new rankings next week

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5    Hector Lombard
337
6    Ronaldo Souza
333
7    Mark Munoz
322
8    Michael Bisping
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9 1  Mamed Khalidov
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10 1  Costas Philippou
 

Rank on the 1st of September before Yushin and Costa lost and Souza won

Wtf how bus the khaldikov guy above shlemenko? Or Carmont or Larkin or chael. Wtf Phone Post

They have an inactivity limit so that's why Chael isn't there, this is before Carmont's last win and why would Larkin be there? he lost to Carmont in April and only ahs the one win over Lawler at MW

I get chael. But beating Lawler is bigger than anything I believe khaldikov Has on his record. Same for Carmont. Phone Post
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SChlemenko is 13 and this was before his latest win, all likelyhood he's in the top 10 on the new rankings next week

I wouldn't put him top 10 either. The point way I see guys being top ten out of the ufc is if they're life chandler truly deadly Phone Post
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3    Vitor Belfort
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4    Yushin Okami
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5    Hector Lombard
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6    Ronaldo Souza
333
7    Mark Munoz
322
8    Michael Bisping
313
9 1  Mamed Khalidov
312
10 1  Costas Philippou
 

Rank on the 1st of September before Yushin and Costa lost and Souza won

Wtf how bus the khaldikov guy above shlemenko? Or Carmont or Larkin or chael. Wtf Phone Post

They have an inactivity limit so that's why Chael isn't there, this is before Carmont's last win and why would Larkin be there? he lost to Carmont in April and only ahs the one win over Lawler at MW

I get chael. But beating Lawler is bigger than anything I believe khaldikov Has on his record. Same for Carmont. Phone Post

Lawler wasn't ranked high at MW before he dropped. Carmont has lower ranked wins, kind of like Brown before his last win that finally put him in the top ten, Carmont is at 18 abd will probably be 13ish next week

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I'm not trying to jsutify the Khalidov thing they just seem to like making a world MMA case and that there's top 10 guys outside the UFC.

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I'm not trying to jsutify the Khalidov thing they just seem to like making a world MMA case and that there's top 10 guys outside the UFC.

I understand you man no worries. I don't get that sites rankings and they seem forced if you have khaldikov anywhere near the top 10. Just my opinion keep on doing you Phone Post
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Id wait to see his performance outside the UFC to form an opinion on if it was a "premature" release....alot of people were pissed about Fitch, then he got destroyed in under 60seconds by a top-20 guy who was released long before Fitch.

PS. I heard Bellator has already made offers. We'll see what happens. Phone Post

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