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9/29/13 5:37 AM
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he is such an awesome person. I love this man
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He makes a good point.

 

Many MMA fighters have pretty stale, boring personalities and it's painfully obvious when they get interviewed.

 

This is something you really didn't see in professional wrestling, self marketing was really important.

 

Make people give a shit about your fight, love you or hate you, make them give a shit.

Chael Sonnen agrees Phone Post 3.0
9/29/13 5:52 AM
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The man articulates this incredibly well.

9/29/13 7:32 AM
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Stone Cold Steve Austin....my favorite wrestler of all time....

Nice input from Ol' Stone Cold.

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9/29/13 9:51 AM
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Who cares what a fake wrestler has to say?  As Brock learned, there is no choregraphed "fights" in the Octagon or any MMA event.


Your comment is dumb and has nothing to do with this thread. And, by the way, you out-of-shape pseudo BJJ practitioner, Brock won and defended the UFC Heavyweight World Title.
9/29/13 1:43 PM
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He makes a good point.

 

Many MMA fighters have pretty stale, boring personalities and it's painfully obvious when they get interviewed.

 

This is something you really didn't see in professional wrestling, self marketing was really important.

 

Make people give a shit about your fight, love you or hate you, make them give a shit.

Chael Sonnen agrees Phone Post 3.0

Exactly.

 

Guys like Chael Sonnen, Tito Ortiz or Genki Sudo were excellent showmen and new how to work with the fans.

 

Hell, guys like Chael Sonnen and Tito Ortiz knew how to draw in the fans that hated them as much as the fans that loved them, that's real marketing ability.  Knowing how to play the heel is just as valuable as playing the hero, even more so if you can do both.

 

People can bash pro wrestling all they like but the truth is pro wrestling is what MMA basically sprang from and they've done a lot of things right.  Nothing wrong with learning from their successes and failures.

9/29/13 1:50 PM
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Who cares what a fake wrestler has to say?  As Brock learned, there is no choregraphed "fights" in the Octagon or any MMA event.

People should care because the man is a born showman and marketed the hell out of himself. He parlayed his wrasslin career into a hunting show and a podcast, plus he'll probably never have to work a day in his life if he so chooses. He knows how to make people give a shit about him and that's what the interview was about Phone Post 3.0
9/29/13 5:00 PM
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He makes a good point.

 

Many MMA fighters have pretty stale, boring personalities and it's painfully obvious when they get interviewed.

 

This is something you really didn't see in professional wrestling, self marketing was really important.

 

Make people give a shit about your fight, love you or hate you, make them give a shit.

Chael Sonnen agrees Phone Post 3.0

Exactly.

 

Guys like Chael Sonnen, Tito Ortiz or Genki Sudo were excellent showmen and new how to work with the fans.

 

Hell, guys like Chael Sonnen and Tito Ortiz knew how to draw in the fans that hated them as much as the fans that loved them, that's real marketing ability.  Knowing how to play the heel is just as valuable as playing the hero, even more so if you can do both.

 

People can bash pro wrestling all they like but the truth is pro wrestling is what MMA basically sprang from and they've done a lot of things right.  Nothing wrong with learning from their successes and failures.

So you're saying real fighting came from fake fighting..? Phone Post

Pro wrestling started out as real fighting.

It evolved into the theatrical crap that it is today during the early 20th century.

The Japanese side of MMA was started by pro wrestlers who wanted to get back the roots of real wrestling and founded MMA organizations like Shooto, Pancrase, and RINGS.
9/29/13 5:18 PM
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He makes a good point.

 

Many MMA fighters have pretty stale, boring personalities and it's painfully obvious when they get interviewed.

 

This is something you really didn't see in professional wrestling, self marketing was really important.

 

Make people give a shit about your fight, love you or hate you, make them give a shit.

Chael Sonnen agrees Phone Post 3.0

Exactly.

 

Guys like Chael Sonnen, Tito Ortiz or Genki Sudo were excellent showmen and new how to work with the fans.

 

Hell, guys like Chael Sonnen and Tito Ortiz knew how to draw in the fans that hated them as much as the fans that loved them, that's real marketing ability.  Knowing how to play the heel is just as valuable as playing the hero, even more so if you can do both.

 

People can bash pro wrestling all they like but the truth is pro wrestling is what MMA basically sprang from and they've done a lot of things right.  Nothing wrong with learning from their successes and failures.

So you're saying real fighting came from fake fighting..? Phone Post

Pro wrestling started out as real fighting.

It evolved into the theatrical crap that it is today during the early 20th century.

The Japanese side of MMA was started by pro wrestlers who wanted to get back the roots of real wrestling and founded MMA organizations like Shooto, Pancrase, and RINGS.

I always wonder why people think there's no connection when it's so well documented that both JMMA and vale tudo's roots are from pro wrestling.
9/29/13 5:57 PM
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I want to hear what Stone Cold ET thinks about MMA.

http://youtu.be/aMmAsqtGRmk Phone Post 3.0
9/29/13 6:44 PM
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He makes a good point.

 

Many MMA fighters have pretty stale, boring personalities and it's painfully obvious when they get interviewed.

 

This is something you really didn't see in professional wrestling, self marketing was really important.

 

Make people give a shit about your fight, love you or hate you, make them give a shit.

Chael Sonnen agrees Phone Post 3.0

Exactly.

 

Guys like Chael Sonnen, Tito Ortiz or Genki Sudo were excellent showmen and new how to work with the fans.

 

Hell, guys like Chael Sonnen and Tito Ortiz knew how to draw in the fans that hated them as much as the fans that loved them, that's real marketing ability.  Knowing how to play the heel is just as valuable as playing the hero, even more so if you can do both.

 

People can bash pro wrestling all they like but the truth is pro wrestling is what MMA basically sprang from and they've done a lot of things right.  Nothing wrong with learning from their successes and failures.

So you're saying real fighting came from fake fighting..? Phone Post

Pro wrestling started out as real fighting.

It evolved into the theatrical crap that it is today during the early 20th century.

The Japanese side of MMA was started by pro wrestlers who wanted to get back the roots of real wrestling and founded MMA organizations like Shooto, Pancrase, and RINGS.
Flaming Dragon doesn't let the truth get in the way of his posting. Phone Post
9/29/13 6:51 PM
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He makes a good point.

 

Many MMA fighters have pretty stale, boring personalities and it's painfully obvious when they get interviewed.

 

This is something you really didn't see in professional wrestling, self marketing was really important.

 

Make people give a shit about your fight, love you or hate you, make them give a shit.

Chael Sonnen agrees Phone Post 3.0

Exactly.

 

Guys like Chael Sonnen, Tito Ortiz or Genki Sudo were excellent showmen and new how to work with the fans.

 

Hell, guys like Chael Sonnen and Tito Ortiz knew how to draw in the fans that hated them as much as the fans that loved them, that's real marketing ability.  Knowing how to play the heel is just as valuable as playing the hero, even more so if you can do both.

 

People can bash pro wrestling all they like but the truth is pro wrestling is what MMA basically sprang from and they've done a lot of things right.  Nothing wrong with learning from their successes and failures.

So you're saying real fighting came from fake fighting..? Phone Post

Pro wrestling started out as real fighting.

It evolved into the theatrical crap that it is today during the early 20th century.

The Japanese side of MMA was started by pro wrestlers who wanted to get back the roots of real wrestling and founded MMA organizations like Shooto, Pancrase, and RINGS.

I always wonder why people think there's no connection when it's so well documented that both JMMA and vale tudo's roots are from pro wrestling.
Maybe its because real fighting goes back a thousand years... Phone Post

It isn't real fighting, it's a sport with rules and in which techniques, including striking, grappling and submissions, are used from actual fighting disciplines. Look back in history and you'll find that is very rare with only a handful of examples throughout recorded history.
9/30/13 10:21 AM
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Who cares what a fake wrestler has to say?  As Brock learned, there is no choregraphed "fights" in the Octagon or any MMA event.


Your comment is dumb and has nothing to do with this thread. And, by the way, you out-of-shape pseudo BJJ practitioner, Brock won and defended the UFC Heavyweight World Title.
"What I'd like to have right now, is for all you out-of-shape pseudo BJJ practitioners to keep the noise down, while I take my robe off and show the ladies what a real sexy man looks like!" Phone Post
9/30/13 10:32 AM
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Omega..why do you always have to come into threads and spread your doucheness all around?

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9/30/13 10:54 AM
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JStrongMMA - Omega..why do you always have to come into threads and spread your doucheness all around?

Don't be sorry, be better. Phone Post
You mean the truth? Sorry you can't read... Phone Post
Lol @ truth.. yeah zuffa's truth. Phone Post
9/30/13 11:42 AM
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Stone cold is AWESOME!

one of my favs wrestlers of all time. great actor too. saw him live many times.
9/30/13 12:53 PM
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Who cares what a fake wrestler has to say?  As Brock learned, there is no choregraphed "fights" in the Octagon or any MMA event.


because fighting along with pro wrestling makes alot of its money due to fan base thats pays to see you. you can be the #2 ww for 3 yrs straight (Fitch) and if your a boring fighter and cant talk, not only are people not going to want to see you fight. you could end up losing your job in the UFC. Chael Sonnen knows whats up!
9/30/13 1:11 PM
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Sheeeyit, I still have mine. Those things were awesome. Phone Post 3.0
9/30/13 1:25 PM
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He makes a good point.

 

Many MMA fighters have pretty stale, boring personalities and it's painfully obvious when they get interviewed.

 

This is something you really didn't see in professional wrestling, self marketing was really important.

 

Make people give a shit about your fight, love you or hate you, make them give a shit.

Chael Sonnen agrees Phone Post 3.0

Exactly.

 

Guys like Chael Sonnen, Tito Ortiz or Genki Sudo were excellent showmen and new how to work with the fans.

 

Hell, guys like Chael Sonnen and Tito Ortiz knew how to draw in the fans that hated them as much as the fans that loved them, that's real marketing ability.  Knowing how to play the heel is just as valuable as playing the hero, even more so if you can do both.

 

People can bash pro wrestling all they like but the truth is pro wrestling is what MMA basically sprang from and they've done a lot of things right.  Nothing wrong with learning from their successes and failures.

So you're saying real fighting came from fake fighting..? Phone Post

Pro wrestling started out as real fighting.

It evolved into the theatrical crap that it is today during the early 20th century.

The Japanese side of MMA was started by pro wrestlers who wanted to get back the roots of real wrestling and founded MMA organizations like Shooto, Pancrase, and RINGS.

I always wonder why people think there's no connection when it's so well documented that both JMMA and vale tudo's roots are from pro wrestling.
Maybe its because real fighting goes back a thousand years... Phone Post

It isn't real fighting, it's a sport with rules and in which techniques, including striking, grappling and submissions, are used from actual fighting disciplines. Look back in history and you'll find that is very rare with only a handful of examples throughout recorded history.

and those "HANDFUL OF EXAMPLES THROUGHOUT RECORDED HISTORY" pre-date japanese mma and pro-rasslin don't they? you clowns need a history lesson...

And those other examples also died out right? Just as the boxing of ancient greece died out and English boxing appeared on its own and isn't a descendent of it, right? Someone also invented a steam engine back in Ancient Greece and nothing become of it but no one says that the reinvention of it in the 17th century, and its continued use since, is unimportant. No, its recent inventors are more important to the current use of the steam engine.
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But boxing and wrestling are not MMA. Boxing is fighting with only your fists, wresting is fighting without striking. MMA is both. So where did it come from? explain to me MMA's lineage because it hasn't existed forever.

Oh, and boxing doesn't predate wrestling in the US. English boxing first appeared in the early 19th century in the US, Wrestling was practiced here from its inception. George Washington wrestled, he didn't box.
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RockyBullwinkle - But boxing and wrestling are not MMA. Boxing is fighting with only your fists, wresting is fighting without striking. MMA is both. So where did it come from? explain to me MMA's lineage because it hasn't existed forever.

Oh, and boxing doesn't predate wrestling in the US. English boxing first appeared in the early 19th century in the US, Wrestling was practiced here from its inception. George Washington wrestled, he didn't box.
Pankration and judo have a well documented history AND BOTH are precursors to todays mma. Read a book. Phone Post

And pankration died out 1500 years ago, or wasn't that in the book you read? and judo of course is Judo, not MMA.
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RockyBullwinkle - But boxing and wrestling are not MMA. Boxing is fighting with only your fists, wresting is fighting without striking. MMA is both. So where did it come from? explain to me MMA's lineage because it hasn't existed forever.

Oh, and boxing doesn't predate wrestling in the US. English boxing first appeared in the early 19th century in the US, Wrestling was practiced here from its inception. George Washington wrestled, he didn't box.
I never said boxing pre dates wrestling in this country... Phone Post

My mistake. My computer cut off your line comparing it to pro rasslin.
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RockyBullwinkle - But boxing and wrestling are not MMA. Boxing is fighting with only your fists, wresting is fighting without striking. MMA is both. So where did it come from? explain to me MMA's lineage because it hasn't existed forever.

Oh, and boxing doesn't predate wrestling in the US. English boxing first appeared in the early 19th century in the US, Wrestling was practiced here from its inception. George Washington wrestled, he didn't box.
Pankration and judo have a well documented history AND BOTH are precursors to todays mma. Read a book. Phone Post

You obviously have never read Nash's Martial Chronicle because he thoroughly documents how MMA came directly out of pro wrestling, both in Japan and with Vale Tudo in Brazil and how mma sprang up in the early 1900s (and didn't come from Pankration or any other early MMA-like combat sport)
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RockyBullwinkle - But boxing and wrestling are not MMA. Boxing is fighting with only your fists, wresting is fighting without striking. MMA is both. So where did it come from? explain to me MMA's lineage because it hasn't existed forever.

Oh, and boxing doesn't predate wrestling in the US. English boxing first appeared in the early 19th century in the US, Wrestling was practiced here from its inception. George Washington wrestled, he didn't box.
Pankration and judo have a well documented history AND BOTH are precursors to todays mma. Read a book. Phone Post

And pankration died out 1500 years ago, or wasn't that in the book you read? and judo of course is Judo, not MMA.
So you're saying no one was doing pankration in the last 1500 years? Also where did pro-rasslin come from? Phone Post

All evidence says Pankration stop being practiced around 500 AD. So yeah no one was practicing it. If I remember profession wrestling started in the 16th or 17th century but took off in the US & Europe in the mid 19th century with traveling full time wrestlers.
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JStrongMMA - Omega..why do you always have to come into threads and spread your doucheness all around?

Don't be sorry, be better. Phone Post
You mean the truth? Sorry you can't read... Phone Post
You just come on here to argue. You do this in every thread. You make it a point to take a stance against a topic or shit talk a fighter and argue with the majority in the most ignorant way you can find. Phone Post

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