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9/30/13 10:11 AM
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The UFC released a number of fighters last week, including Mike Ricci, Yuri Villefort, Keith Wisniewski, Joao Zeferino, and Yushin Okami.

Okami, 32 and ranked #6 in the world by the UFC, was released following a KO loss to Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza in his last fight; he won the three previous matches, to Buddy Roberts, Alan Belcher, and Hector Lombard. Lombard remains with the UFC, despite losing two of his three fights in the UFC, and a far, far higher price tag.

UFC president Dana White explained Okami's release to Yahoo Sports' Kevin Iole, noting that the UFC roster is fixed at present, and that there is a constant and unrelenting search for and hard nurturing of contenders to the title. If someone is added to the roster who might conceivably someday win the title, then someone else has to go.

"He was never able to get over the hump and win one of those [significant] fights," explained White. "We have a lot of guys coming in and I've been saying this all year: We have a full roster and there are guys who deserve opportunities. When you bring guys in, someone has to go. That's why these fights are so meaningful."

In a compelling piece for MMAJunkie, Ben Fowlkes make the case for the cut.

The UFC is looking for the best fighters in the world. It's also looking to make money, which is why you can survive slightly longer if your unsuccessful attempts at climbing to the top of the heap are entertaining enough to sell tickets and pay-per-views. But even those fighters get cut eventually. They have to, because somewhere out there is a fighter who might become the best, who hasn't yet bumped up against the jagged ceiling of his own limitations, and he's coming for somebody's spot. If you don't want it to be yours, you have to make your case over and over and over again.

It's the kind of employment environment that most of us couldn't stand. Maybe that's also why it's so compelling to us. It's the rare arena where really, really good isn't good enough, and the years you've already put in don't amount to seniority, but rather strengthen the case against you. In the end, the judgment it leads to is brutal and harsh and inevitable.

But that's fighting for you. And, honestly, what did you expect?

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What do you think UG? Were you a big Yushin Okami fan before the cut?


9/30/13 11:24 AM
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"He was never able to get over the hump and win one of those [significant] fights," explained White.


This is 100% BS. The UFC just signed Big Country to a new deal and BC fits the above description to a T. Actually Okami did better than BC as he actually earned a title shot.

But it's bad enough when Dana spews this BS. It's worse when dudes like Fowlkes enable it.

Bottom line. Okami is gone but there are a lot of fighters on the roster that Okami can easily beat.
9/30/13 11:36 AM
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I'm scratching my head why he's out an not Lombard .. Will be a nice trade for Bellator Phone Post 3.0
9/30/13 11:40 AM
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He wasn't exciting. Sorry but he was the definition of a dry humper. At least guys like Chael go crazy with punches and make it fun to watch. Yushin was a nightmare to exciting guys. His best fight was the one where Boetch KO'd him from behind Phone Post 3.0
9/30/13 11:59 AM
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Okami can make his way back with a couple big wins.

9/30/13 12:02 PM
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For those FRAT types:

UFC is looking for the best fighters in the world, it also needs to make money. The magic of mma for normal people is in the rugged beauty of its competition, who knows who'll get cut or why. This creates ultra intense competition. Some might argue that these "iincentives" might lead to a discouraging level of uncertainty and confusion among prospective fighters who notice even top 10 guys getting cut from the company whose stated mission is to have all the top 10ers in the world. Dont listen to those people, their argument makes no sense. Im ben fowlkes, and ufc is da bess, is da rugged beauty, is da besss

Thanks for reading
9/30/13 12:39 PM
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If these up and comers have so much god damn potential then they should beat Okami no?
9/30/13 1:11 PM
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I've always liked Okami a lot. And honestly, I blame the fans for his getting released (Fitch too). Maybe I'm the rare fan that actually enjoys wrestling (as long as it's the dominating type, not the desperation type) but whenever Okami fought all I heard were bad comments as if people couldn't wait for him to lose a few fights so he could get cut.

Now that he's cut, everyone's upset? Stop crying and start buying. I'm a fan of Askren... but I'm scared he's in for the same treatment. Although he's better than Diaz (IMO) he's not getting a promotion after a loss because people simply don't appreciate wrestling the way they should.
9/30/13 1:16 PM
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But even those fighters get cut eventually. They have to, because somewhere out there is a fighter who might become the best, who hasn't yet bumped up against the jagged ceiling of his own limitations, and he's coming for somebody's spot. If you don't want it to be yours, you have to make your case over and over and over again.


Top 10 fighters Okami has beat: Lombard, Belcher (x2), Marquardt, Munoz,

Top 10 fighters Bisping has beat: Belcher

9/30/13 1:24 PM
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ass kissing little suck up weasel, have fun cuddling up to the suits.
9/30/13 2:41 PM
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Supporters of Yushin keeps arguing how he's is 3-1 in his last three fights however that stat ignores his two loses prior. So the flip side is that he's 3-3 in his last six, with two of those wins by decision (one split) and all three loses by TKO. I like watching him fight, seeing him in the UFC, and I don't think he should be cut, but there is some slight fudging of the numbers being argued in his defense. That said it's hard to argue that UFC has the world's best fighters without him in the mix
9/30/13 2:43 PM
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an mma report agreeing with decisions made by the UFC brass, who would have thought?

 

9/30/13 4:31 PM
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But even those fighters get cut eventually. They have to, because somewhere out there is a fighter who might become the best, who hasn't yet bumped up against the jagged ceiling of his own limitations, and he's coming for somebody's spot. If you don't want it to be yours, you have to make your case over and over and over again.


Top 10 fighters Okami has beat: Lombard, Belcher (x2), Marquardt, Munoz,

Top 10 fighters Bisping has beat: Belcher


9/30/13 7:03 PM
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Bentleysuper8 - If these up and comers have so much god damn potential then they should beat Okami no?
Exactly this Phone Post 3.0
9/30/13 7:24 PM
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After thinking it was really bizarre that they cut him, I realized it does make some sense. The explanation obviously isn't going to sit well with those who want MMA to fall more on the "sports" side of "sports entertainment," but Okami's a top ten fighter who (A) is much closer to the end of his career than start, (B) isn't going to be champion, and (B) doesn't put on all that of exciting fights. That appears to be the trifecta of doom, perhaps understandibly so once you take into account that this is a promoted sport. He's like the boss before the last boss in a video game, a gate-keeper several gates removed from the first gate.

The interesting question is who else meets all the criteria of the trifecta of doom?

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