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10/2/13 11:09 AM
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Former UFC light heavyweight champion and Hall of Famer Chuck Liddell appeared on ESPN's SportsNation on Tuesday for a wide-ranging interview.

Asked how the sport had changed since his 2010 retirment. In sum, Liddell is not impressed with GSP's perfomance.

"I think some people make complaints about some of the champions playing it safe," said Liddell. "I understand it, but I don't want to watch it. I think St-Pierre is a great fighter. He's awesome... I just don't like watching him play safe. And he fights safe. I mean against Diaz he spiral rode him for half the fight. I don't like watching that.

"Now, for him to able to do that to guys that are at that level is impressive. But it's not exciting to me. And the way they chose the fight. I mean 'I've been beating this guy up for four rounds, I'm still just gonna win the last round. I'm not gonna try to finish him. I'm not gonna go after him. I'm not gonna take any risks.' From a coaching standpoint and a manager's standpoint, I understand. It makes sense. It's big money now. But from a fan's standpoint, I don't want to watch it, [not] unless I think he's fighting someone that can make him fight. I actually think this next fight coming up, I'm excited, he's fighting Johny Hendricks and I think Hendricks is going to make him fight."

How about it UG? Do you like watching George St-Pierre fight smart?


10/2/13 11:12 AM
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Did Chuck watch GSP's fight with Condit?
10/2/13 11:18 AM
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Deal with it.

He makes everyone he faces look average.

Chuck, and I respect Chuck greatly, has massive trouble speaking now. Makes me sad.

GSP is making bank, saving his health, and no one can beat him. I mean...what else is there to say?

10/2/13 11:19 AM
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George will be healthy after retirement. Phone Post
10/2/13 11:20 AM
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Zed Wayne Zed - Last defeated in 2007 by fluke punch.

Deal with it.

He makes everyone he faces look average.

Chuck, and I respect Chuck greatly, has massive trouble speaking now. Makes me sad.

GSP is making bank, saving his health, and no one can beat him. I mean...what else is there to say?

Yup

Maybe if Chuck focused a little more on being more defensive he wouldnt have been ktfo'd as much as he has Phone Post
10/2/13 11:21 AM
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kyle223 - Did Chuck watch GSP's fight with Condit?

LOL,When Condit Kicked GSP in the head.

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Zed Wayne Zed - Last defeated in 2007 by fluke punch.

Deal with it.

He makes everyone he faces look average.

Chuck, and I respect Chuck greatly, has massive trouble speaking now. Makes me sad.

GSP is making bank, saving his health, and no one can beat him. I mean...what else is there to say?

Nailed it. Phone Post
10/2/13 11:23 AM
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kyle223 - Did Chuck watch GSP's fight with Condit?

LOL,When Condit Kicked GSP in the head.

Thats awesome! Phone Post
10/2/13 11:25 AM
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Chucks right. I watch all mma so yes I pay to watch gsp fight, but gsp cards are usually stacked so I wouldn't wanna miss them even tho the main event is usually a snoozer. Phone Post 3.0
10/2/13 11:32 AM
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Hikikomori - George will be healthy after retirement. Phone Post
GSP has looked worse after many of his fights than liddell ever did, I would venture to say GSP takes more shots, but LIddell just got KO'd easily at the end of his career.

GSP looked beat up after BJ 1, Condit, Shields, and Diaz Phone Post 3.0
10/2/13 11:38 AM
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kyle223 - Did Chuck watch GSP's fight with Condit?

LOL,When Condit Kicked GSP in the head.

Someone needs to put a guitar in his hands. Phone Post 3.0
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Proud Canadian here , and huge Gsp fan..... He's boring , but ultra effective. I do miss the Gsp vs frank trigg aggressiveness. Phone Post 3.0
10/2/13 11:45 AM
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Poor chuck, obviously he is sick of seeing himself get KO'd by rashad in every damn UFC intro, ufc tv shows, commercials, I think they even slid it into the "best of pride" intro for no Godamn reason.

Chuck wants GSP to get spectacularly KO'd, so they can switch it up maybe, and I agree , why we gotta always see chuck taking dirt naps in every damn UFC promo ,like he fucked the video editors wife or some shit.
10/2/13 11:46 AM
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They need an online Chuck Cam that I can watch live during the PPV.
10/2/13 11:47 AM
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why does chuck always watch fights like he's handicapped?

10/2/13 11:50 AM
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Zed Wayne Zed - Last defeated in 2007 by fluke punch.

Deal with it.

He makes everyone he faces look average.

Chuck, and I respect Chuck greatly, has massive trouble speaking now. Makes me sad.

GSP is making bank, saving his health, and no one can beat him. I mean...what else is there to say?

Stop destroying the sport maybe? Stop turning new fans away or giving people the impression that MMA sucks? Stop manipulating the ineffective rule set to avoid fighting? Stop trying to avoid fighting so much when you're supposed to be a professional fighter? I could go on, but you get the point. There is A LOT more to say.

Also, lol @ him making everyone he faces look average. He did no such thing against Condit or Diaz. He simply takes advantage of the imperfect unified rules of MMA to grapple fuck his opponent until the final bell sounds while simultaneously putting the audience to sleep. Phone Post

Stop destroying the sport?

Saw a ton little happy kids wearing GSP's headbands and gis and all excited about going to see the UFC.
GSP wasn't on card.

If you think GSP is destroying MMA, than you simply don't understand dominance.

Condit was one fight, since Serra, where he had some moments of dispair, still won. And, again, if you believe Diaz did anything at all, anything at all in that fight, I have nothing to say to you.

Getting voted down liked crazy, but as I have learned on my time on the UG, independent thought scares the mongoloids that plague MMA.
10/2/13 11:51 AM
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why does chuck always watch fights like he's handicapped?

Because he knows all too well what a KO to the head feels like. Phone Post
10/2/13 11:52 AM
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I don't get why people always say Chuck sounds bad, and shit on his health. He sounds about the same to me, and I can understand the guy with no trouble. He also seems pretty damn healthy. Phone Post 3.0
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And putting the audience to sleep?

Jesus, it's not even worth arguing with you, man.

Go into a gym today, pick a high-level striker, and make him useless. Do it. I'd love to see it.

It's so boring. So easy.

(And I am no Askren fan, so I do see the irony.)
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Zed Wayne Zed - Last defeated in 2007 by fluke punch.

Deal with it.

He makes everyone he faces look average.

Chuck, and I respect Chuck greatly, has massive trouble speaking now. Makes me sad.

GSP is making bank, saving his health, and no one can beat him. I mean...what else is there to say?

Stop destroying the sport maybe? Stop turning new fans away or giving people the impression that MMA sucks? Stop manipulating the ineffective rule set to avoid fighting? Stop trying to avoid fighting so much when you're supposed to be a professional fighter? I could go on, but you get the point. There is A LOT more to say.

Also, lol @ him making everyone he faces look average. He did no such thing against Condit or Diaz. He simply takes advantage of the imperfect unified rules of MMA to grapple fuck his opponent until the final bell sounds while simultaneously putting the audience to sleep. Phone Post

I'm not a fan of how GSP fights these days but, you sir, are a complete retard.
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kyle223 - Did Chuck watch GSP's fight with Condit?

LOL,When Condit Kicked GSP in the head.

Someone needs to put a guitar in his hands. Phone Post 3.0
Bagpipe IMO Phone Post 3.0
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I find with George he seems more interested in his business side endorsements advertising and his brands income than anything which might risk that. Which I guess is his right like the whole vada wada thing with Johnny. Phone Post
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Leave George Safe Pierre alone!

 

 

 

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NZT 48 - "Stop destroying the sport?

Saw a ton little happy kids wearing GSP's headbands and gis and all excited about going to see the UFC. GSP wasn't on card."

He IS destroying the sport. Do you really think those kids gave ever watched a full GSP fight from the past six years, or did they het the headband based on his marketable image of a "fighter"?

"If you think GSP is destroying MMA, than you simply don't understand dominance."

He's not dominating, he's manipulating the rule system and the scoring system.

"Condit was one fight, since Serra, where he had some moments of dispair, still won. And, again, if you believe Diaz did anything at all, anything at all in that fight, I have nothing to say to you."

He took Condit down most times shit started to hit the fan, and thw most exciting part of the fight was him almost getting knocked out.

Against Diaz, he did exactly what he had to do to win. Circle, jab, takedown, rinse, repeat. Granted Diaz looked like shit for that fight, too, but watch the Gracie breakdown of the fight. They explain how GSP simply avoided getting into spots where he could do damage because there was too high a risk of submission. He knew exactly where to place himself so as not to get stood up by the referee while not actually engaging Diaz.

"Getting voted down liked crazy, but as I have learned on my time on the UG, independent thought scares the mongoloids that plague MMA."

I for one didn't vote you down and will not ever based on your responses in this thread. Reasonable men can differ, even if one of them loves five-round grapplefuck "fights" ;) Phone Post
I disagree wholeheartedly with you, sir. Phone Post
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As a Canadian, GSP is amazing. The fact he can dictate the fight almost all of the time against everyone he faces is more than impressive.

But truthfully the guy bores the shit out of me. I wont and cant watch his fights any more.

I mean I know styles make fights and MMA math doesnt work, but why is it Chris Lytle and Condit can both finish Dan Hardy via sub and KO yet GSP carries the fucking guy for 5 rounds?++

Yeah yeah I know he tried the armbar!!!!

 

I mean thats just not what people want to see from a champion for the most part and its why this argument about him keeps popping up!

Just my POV!

 

 

 

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