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10/3/13 1:20 PM
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Renzo Gracie, appeared on Ariel Helwani's The MMA Hour last month, and declared that he wants to fight in the UFC again

“Believe it, there's nothing that I want to do more than to be back in the cage, to be back fighting," said Gracie as transcribed by Middleeasy. "I just love doing that. Life has been pushing me everywhere but in that direction, but now I'm getting so tired and frustrated with everything else that I'm going to just bury myself into a mat and train the whole day, and do what I love, which is training and fighting... I'm looking to be in top shape in three or four months from now, and from there I'll set up a date.”

At the UFC 168 media day last Sunday, UFC president Dana White questioned why Renzo would want to return at age 46.

"I have to ask Renzo Gracie why," said White as transcribed by MMAFighting. "Renzo, you've been around forever, you've accomplished so many things. You have the respect of the entire combat world in every country. I just don’t know why he wants to come back at his age and fight again."

When asked by MMAFighting why he wants to fight again, Renzo offered a quote from Nietzche - "And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music."

As only he can, Renzo talked about both a 19th century German philosopher, and his nut sack.

"For having nothing to prove nor nothing to gain," said Gracie "To fight for what it is without reason, without greed, just for the passion to step once again in the arena and be an inspiration for a future generation of great fighters. To prove that age is only a handicap for the soft ones.

"And above all, because I love it."

"My man, I'm fighting. It doesn't matter where. Even for free.

"Last time I checked I didn't have wrinkles. Not even on my nut sack."

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10/3/13 1:32 PM
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Was he still considering dropping to LW? Also, who does he even fight at this point? You can't give him a complete scrub because he's too big of a name, but I don't see him beating anyone with a name in either WW or LW. He's 46 years old and hasn't fought in three years and did not look like he should have been fighting then.

Oh well, I know I'll be watching when he does, but he should do it sooner than later.

10/3/13 1:40 PM
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Gotta love Renzo, no wrinkles on his nut sack is good enough for me, I'll watch him fight, win or lose you have to respect a fighter like him. Phone Post 3.0
10/3/13 1:41 PM
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Much RESPECT RENZO!!!
10/3/13 1:42 PM
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does he get to fight because he is the one that did the flash media arab deal for the ufc. getting them 200 million for 10% in the middle of a huge reccession. and also when the fertittas where in big trouble in vegas with their casinos and needed cash to get out of it.  just wondering ? 

10/3/13 2:15 PM
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I hope this happens.
10/3/13 9:55 PM
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No disrespect to Renzo but he didn't look so good in his last fight and he's 4 years older now.

10/3/13 9:58 PM
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It's in his heart and blood man, he has that passion to compete and be a warrior ...it's born in you....some of you have it...the other 90% of civilization dont' have it.

 

 

He may get his ass stomped ...but he's in it to win it.....he'll give his all to try and catch that elusive Win.

 

 

 

Dont ever hate and bring down someone's dreams.

 

10/3/13 10:03 PM
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I know someone will bring up something he did negative, but that guy is a damn hero to me. Phone Post
10/3/13 10:04 PM
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So they'll give Renzo a fight, but they tell Rich Franklin to retire.

Knocking out Chuck Liddell is like career suicide.
10/3/13 10:35 PM
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CRE - So they'll give Renzo a fight, but they tell Rich Franklin to retire.

Knocking out Chuck Liddell is like career suicide.
Dude, honestly, HE HAS NO WRINKLES ON HIS NUT SACK, zilch, notta, none. How can you say no to that ??

And besides that its Renzo Gracie, like Dana said, one of the most respected and liked Guys ever in the biz, he should be able to go out as he pleases. Nobody wants to see him get hurt, sometimes as you get older the mind still wants to do what the body won't keep up with, if it proves to be to much for him he'll stop fighting but maybe its something he needs to see and feel for himself so give him your support, he's worthy of it. Phone Post 3.0
10/3/13 10:39 PM
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I SOOOO wish the UFC had a Master's division (40+ years old) for fighters to continue competing against guys in their same generation. Who wouldn't want to see a fight between legends? Doesn't even need to be a belt. Just guys like Renzo who are lifelong martial artists and love to compete every few cards. I think it'd be a PPV draw as well as a way to keep putting on great fights, personally.

10/3/13 10:56 PM
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Master's division sounds like a great idea. I can't get the image out of my head of him asking Hughes to help him stand up after tons of unchecked kicks to the leg.
10/6/13 2:11 PM
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I wonder sometimes why so many people think so highly of Renzo as a fighter?I'm just curious. I'm not saying I don't think highly of him or I do.

I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here... Don't you think that if he was serious about training and improving as a fighter over the years his stand up would be at least Decent? He's been fighting since 1992 and his stand up was always very awkward.

Did anyone watch the Frank Shamrock fight? Was Renzo looking for a way out?

I hear so many people say legend etc... But are people just saying it because others say it?

I'd like to hear WHY people think this about him...

Business wise he's done extremely well. He's a charismatic guy who really paved his way with his schools etc... That's is something I admire most about him.
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ttt

 

 

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CaptChaos - I wonder sometimes why so many people think so highly of Renzo as a fighter?I'm just curious. I'm not saying I don't think highly of him or I do.

I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here... Don't you think that if he was serious about training and improving as a fighter over the years his stand up would be at least Decent? He's been fighting since 1992 and his stand up was always very awkward.

Did anyone watch the Frank Shamrock fight? Was Renzo looking for a way out?

I hear so many people say legend etc... But are people just saying it because others say it?

I'd like to hear WHY people think this about him...

Business wise he's done extremely well. He's a charismatic guy who really paved his way with his schools etc... That's is something I admire most about him.

Some reasons why he's so loved:

1. He was around from the beginning (Pride days and before)

2. He fought much bigger opponents with no gloves...and won (Taktarov)

3. He's a grappling genius who's put out some world-champion students in both grappling and MMA

4. He never turned down a fight or hand-picked opponents he knew he could beat

5. He's one of the most winsome and generous people you'll ever meet (I say this from experience)

6. His stories are absoutely ridiculously entertaining

7. He doesn't often get wrapped up in BJJ/MMA politics or drama

8. His Pride fight with Carlos Newton is still one of the best MMA fights of all time

9. Watch "Legacy" for more reasons.

10/6/13 10:50 PM
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CaptChaos - I wonder sometimes why so many people think so highly of Renzo as a fighter?I'm just curious. I'm not saying I don't think highly of him or I do.

I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here... Don't you think that if he was serious about training and improving as a fighter over the years his stand up would be at least Decent? He's been fighting since 1992 and his stand up was always very awkward.

Did anyone watch the Frank Shamrock fight? Was Renzo looking for a way out?

I hear so many people say legend etc... But are people just saying it because others say it?

I'd like to hear WHY people think this about him...

Business wise he's done extremely well. He's a charismatic guy who really paved his way with his schools etc... That's is something I admire most about him.

Some reasons why he's so loved:

1. He was around from the beginning (Pride days and before)

2. He fought much bigger opponents with no gloves...and won (Taktarov)

3. He's a grappling genius who's put out some world-champion students in both grappling and MMA

4. He never turned down a fight or hand-picked opponents he knew he could beat

5. He's one of the most winsome and generous people you'll ever meet (I say this from experience)

6. His stories are absoutely ridiculously entertaining

7. He doesn't often get wrapped up in BJJ/MMA politics or drama

8. His Pride fight with Carlos Newton is still one of the best MMA fights of all time

9. Watch "Legacy" for more reasons.


10. On top of being a ridiculously good guy (only those who have never met him will bother arguing otherwise), he's competed and won at elite levels, both winning ADCC two times and defeating former UFC champions well above his weight levels.

Whether Renzo is at the top of his game or not, there are few guys in this sport that deserve more respect than him . . . IMO.
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I'll watch a Renzo fight any day. Even if he does have wrinkled nuts.

10/6/13 11:38 PM
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Renzo vs Gomi in Japan

Make it happen ZUFFA!
10/6/13 11:40 PM
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"Why fighter want fight!?"

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10/7/13 1:40 AM
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Let him bang bro Phone Post
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WAR RENZO!!

The motherfucker does not tap!
10/7/13 2:12 AM
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does he get to fight because he is the one that did the flash media arab deal for the ufc. getting them 200 million for 10% in the middle of a huge reccession. and also when the fertittas where in big trouble in vegas with their casinos and needed cash to get out of it.  just wondering ? 


I think Zuffa and Renzo were on good terms prior to that deal so I am sure they would of given him a fight without him doing that. Granted him helping in that deal (no matter how small or big his help was) did not hurt his relationship in anyway.

What seems odd is in a recent scrum Dana said its been 3 years since he met with Flash Entertainment (in person) and was going over there to meet with them and get them up to date. Scary to think someone can invest 200 million into something and not want to know whats going on all the time. Must be a nice problem to have...
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Well he is 13-7 as a pro mma fighter...

His first 4 fights were wins but the combined record of all 4 opponents during their careers are 3-6.

He has 2 wins against Japanese fighters with losing records back in 1999 (Otsuka was a career 4-13 and Sakata was a career 11-13.)

He got another win against a Japanese fighter in 2001. Michiyosho Ohara, who was a career 0-2.

He beat a 39 year old Maurice Smith
He upkicked Oleg and won
He beat an over the hill Militech a few years ago
He "won" vs. Frank in a Controversial fight
He beat Carlos Newton via SPLIT DEC.

So that's 12 of his 13 wins. I'm just not sure what all the hype is about.






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A person's record doesn't encapsulate their career. There's a reason Wandy has such immense popular appeal among old school and diehard fans.

Same with Renzo.


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