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10/9/13 11:59 PM
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<blockquote>UGCTT_iPray2bLaidByWeidman - <blockquote>JayBRO - <blockquote>MMALOGIC - <p>
That's bullshit because the ref didnt even pull palhares off.  The ref didnt signal the end of the fight to palhares... If you rewatch it the ref only grabs mike pierce (and mikes leg).</p>
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Palhares had no way of knowing the fight was over.  You dont stop to taps... you dont stop until the ref pulls you off or motions you off.</p></blockquote><br />Oh yeah for sure buddy.<br /><br />MMARETARDEDLOGIC<br /><br /></blockquote>

BRO!!! Nice counterpoint BRO! <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


</blockquote><br />Oh I'm sorry did you need me to repeat for the 6000th time what actually happened? Get your eyes checked if you didn't see it.<br /><br />Palhares had no way of knowing the fight was over? LMFAO the ref was laying on top off him screaming to stop. <br /><br />Nice sign up date by the way. Now go to bed, you have high school tomorrow.
10/9/13 11:59 PM
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Obviously Paul Harris thought the ref was just trying to photobomb him. Honest mistake.

10/9/13 11:59 PM
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You think I'm exaggerating saying he held it for 5 seconds after the tap? Watch it again if it's not 5 seconds it's an easy 4. Completely unacceptable I hope this prick gets suspended.
10/10/13 12:00 AM
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THe commission, the executives and Dana all thought it was long. Argue with them, they are the ones who are gonna decide your fighter's fate.

10/10/13 12:01 AM
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kingjames100 - Didn't look that bad to me.

Ref dives at you while fighter is swining his arm in pain, and you hold it for 2 more seconds really? No that bad eh?


Not at all.
10/10/13 12:02 AM
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He reminds me of Tommy DeVito in Goodfellas.
10/10/13 12:04 AM
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kingjames100 - Didn't look that bad to me.

Ref dives at you while fighter is swining his arm in pain, and you hold it for 2 more seconds really? No that bad eh?


Not at all.

Then you gotta convince Dana, the COmmission and the Executives that wacthed it. They thought it was enough to pull his bonus and investigat, good luck with that

10/10/13 12:05 AM
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It takes the ref 2 seconds to get there with Mike tapping hard and screaming in agony 2 seconds for him to let go with the ref lying on top of them trying to separate him off of Mike. 4 seconds is a very long time for having your knee getting cranked in the wrong direction. Let's see if his knee was injured or not we probably won't know for a day or 2 but there could easily be some tendon damage.
10/10/13 12:08 AM
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Although i am a big fan of him i do think he has no bad intentions but has some psychological/mental issues. I hope alex davis or ufc can convince him and hook him up with someone that can help this guy. He has too much potential and many fans to go ti waste. Phone Post 3.0
10/10/13 12:10 AM
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Full speed no clock, I can count two second, when the ref's head hit's hios legs, he's holding it two seconds longer.

 

Enough trolling


I've defended palhares repeatedly in previous instances but enough is enough; He's done this too many times now. I support the UFCs decision in this one
10/10/13 12:10 AM
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kingjames100 - Didn't look that bad to me.

Ref dives at you while fighter is swining his arm in pain, and you hold it for 2 more seconds really? No that bad eh?


Not at all.

Then you gotta convince Dana, the COmmission and the Executives that wacthed it. They thought it was enough to pull his bonus and investigat, good luck with that


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10/10/13 12:10 AM
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Submission of the Night

There was one submission at UFC Fight Night 29, and it was brutal.

Former middleweight Rousimar Palhares debuted at welterweight against Mike Pierce, and he went to work quickly.

In Round 1, Palhares secured a disgusting heel hook that left Pierce writhing in pain, tapping frantically for the referee to halt the contest.

Pierce tapped. And he tapped.

The referee intervened.

Pierce continued to tap.

Palhares would not let go of the submission, something that has earned him a suspension in the past.

After eight (I counted) taps from Pierce, including three after the referee was clearly trying to break up the fight, Palhares released his hold.

That is inexcusable—a point recognized by the UFC, as they denied Palhares his post-fight bonus.

For being a poor sport, Mr. Palhares, you lose out on $50,000.

Maybe you should just be a decent person next time.


10/10/13 12:10 AM
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Wow... the UG has gone full retard today. Phone Post
10/10/13 12:17 AM
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ChaosOverkill -

 

 

Full speed no clock, I can count two second, when the ref's head hit's hios legs, he's holding it two seconds longer.

 

Enough trolling

Looks like he cranks harder when ref jumps in to me. Or his knee starts to bend more. When you have a lock in that deep you should know that the ref will be coming in. I don't believe anyone's reaction time could be that slow and be good in MMA. I would have to say its intentional. Phone Post 3.0
10/10/13 12:17 AM
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Media Monster -  That's the least the UFC could have done. That guy is a career ender. Dirty shit man, respect the tap Phone Post

I have seen plenty of fake taps that lead to KOs. You stop when the ref separates you.

 

Regardless of you "seeing" the ref, you stop when the ref touches you, period.

 

 

This whole "you stop when the ref pulls you off" is horse shit (you said seperate, but many others have used that phrasing).  I understand not stopping at the tap, there are fake taps and shit happens.  But as soon as the ref touches you, you at the very least pause what you're doing, or stop.  Keith touches him as soon as he slides in then immediately starts pulling at the leg while pressing his head into Paul Harris, only then does he let go.

 

I also feel like he did throw an extra crank in regardless of the late hold.  Fined and suspended, cut if he does it again imo.

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Exactly. Why does the ref need to grab a hold of a leg and mash his head into the body of a guy to get him to stop cranking? It's bs, especially when it's happened before.

If you're dodgy on fake taps, you need to watch for the ref. It's one or the other; respect the tap or respect the ref.

What Semtex did to Kos was beyond wrong, and he deserved his punishment. But damage wise, cranking on the knee after a guy taps and stops defending is worse. You could put a guy out for a year or worse, jack his knee up to the point of him not being able to use it right ever again - thus limiting his career.

In my opinion, taking his bonus is the least the UFC could have done. Suspending him for 6 months would be something that would really send him a message. Phone Post
10/10/13 12:18 AM
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For anyone defending Paulhares, I question first your BJJ credentials, and second whether or not you have ever been on the receiving end of a fully locked in heel hook. I promise uoh the difference between thinking you're OK, and your knee being form to shreds is minuscule.

Me, my BJJ training partners, and a high level purple belt who trains with us and whose specialty is leg locks and heel hooks ALL noticed right away the extra crank. Phone Post
10/10/13 12:20 AM
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Too bad they can't take his show money, too.

10/10/13 12:21 AM
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Good.

 

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10/10/13 12:21 AM
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Where the hell did my reply go?
I was on the first page, but now it's gone.
Mod fuckery afoot?

All I said was Palhares and anyone who does that is a scum bag and deserves to be fined or cut. It's as unacceptable as punching someone after the bell or the ref stops the fight. Phone Post 3.0
10/10/13 12:21 AM
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mike hammer - Submission of the Night

There was one submission at UFC Fight Night 29, and it was brutal.

Former middleweight Rousimar Palhares debuted at welterweight against Mike Pierce, and he went to work quickly.

In Round 1, Palhares secured a disgusting heel hook that left Pierce writhing in pain, tapping frantically for the referee to halt the contest.

Pierce tapped. And he tapped.

The referee intervened.

Pierce continued to tap.

Palhares would not let go of the submission, something that has earned him a suspension in the past.

After eight (I counted) taps from Pierce, including three after the referee was clearly trying to break up the fight, Palhares released his hold.

That is inexcusable—a point recognized by the UFC, as they denied Palhares his post-fight bonus.

For being a poor sport, Mr. Palhares, you lose out on $50,000.

Maybe you should just be a decent person next time.


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10/10/13 12:22 AM
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That's bullshit because the ref didnt even pull palhares off.  The ref didnt signal the end of the fight to palhares... If you rewatch it the ref only grabs mike pierce (and mikes leg).

Palhares had no way of knowing the fight was over.  You dont stop to taps... you dont stop until the ref pulls you off or motions you off.

Lol at that fucking retard filled drivel.. Did you actually watch the fight?? And not like this is a fucking first time occurance.. Paul harris is a blight and will ruin someone's career. Phone Post 3.0
10/10/13 12:27 AM
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kingjames100 - Didn't look that bad to me.

Ref dives at you while fighter is swining his arm in pain, and you hold it for 2 more seconds really? No that bad eh?

Watch the clock when the ref makes it clear to Paulharris that the fight is over. It is not two full seconds. Not even close.

You probably watching a slo mo gif. Phone Post
I watched it live you fucking dick and paul harris held the sub and cranked it more as the ref was on them trying to separate them. You and zuffalogic need to actually watch the fights you both vomit your shit out about. Phone Post 3.0
10/10/13 12:31 AM
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I agree 100% with the bonus being withheld, and wouldn't be opposed to him being banned from the UFC for good. Phone Post
10/10/13 12:44 AM
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That's bullshit because the ref didnt even pull palhares off.  The ref didnt signal the end of the fight to palhares... If you rewatch it the ref only grabs mike pierce (and mikes leg).

Palhares had no way of knowing the fight was over.  You dont stop to taps... you dont stop until the ref pulls you off or motions you off.

I totally agree.. Paul Harris looks like a guy who just gets into his work... MMA fans are just a bunch of cry babies now a days, IMHO Phone Post 3.0

I'm shocked you have the opposite opinion to 99% of people in this. Shocked

10/10/13 12:44 AM
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Guys are trying to give each other concussions and permanent brain damage. But a slight delay letting go of a sub, and people are up in arms?

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