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10/11/13 6:16 PM
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I timed it on a stopwatch from the time Pierce taps until Palhares let's go and it was 2.75 seconds.
All this bullshit for under 3 seconds. Its actually under 2 seconds from when the ref dives in. What the fuck is the matter with everybody? Phone Post
10/11/13 6:17 PM
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10/11/13 6:19 PM
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OP needs to get a heel hook cranked tighter after he taps.
10/11/13 6:20 PM
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Damn, I hate that I'm the gullible one who responded. :(
10/11/13 6:20 PM
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10/11/13 6:20 PM
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I didn't think it was that bad either. Phone Post 3.0
10/11/13 6:21 PM
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On it's own forgivable, as a pattern of behavior not so much
10/11/13 6:23 PM
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Because pretty much everyone else let's go instantly out of respect for the other fighter.

Keep in mind that fighters will already have pushed themselves past most people's limits as they try to find a way to escape, so by the time they decide to tap the pain will already be excruciating. At that stage 2.75 seconds is a fuckin' eternity.

Also, when it comes to submissions, there's sometimes only a matter of seconds between severe pain and something breaking.
10/11/13 6:25 PM
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2.75 seconds is an eternity when someone is wrecking your knee as tendons and ligaments stretch till they pop.

2.75 seconds is a long time when someone is beating furiously on your leg in a clear and unmistakable "TAP".

2.75 seconds is a long time when your opponent is screaming and you ignore him.

2.75 seconds is a long time when most subs are released at the first touch of the refs hand (on Palhares shoulder in this case).

2.75 seconds is a long time when when Palhares actually cranks even harder for the last 1-second till he lets go.

2.75 seconds is a long time when Palhares has a very well documented history of holding subs too long.

 

10/11/13 6:27 PM
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I don't know if everyone is the same, but when I throw on a leg lock, I increase the pressure gradually over like a 5 second period... So if someone taps and I were to not notice or hold on for an extra 2.5 seconds for some reason... That can be a serious serious injury. It's not like he had him in a lock and just sat there without increasing pressure. Intentional or not that's just dirty Phone Post 3.0
10/11/13 6:27 PM
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B_Goetz - OP needs to get a heel hook cranked tighter after he taps.
If a heel hook is so devastating, then fucking ban it instead of holding its practitioners to a higher standard than other submissions Phone Post
10/11/13 6:28 PM
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i didnt realize body parts were indestructible for X amount of seconds.

also, why is it that everybody else in the sport can manage to let go after a tap besides him?
10/11/13 6:29 PM
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Heel Hooks are designed to tear your knee. Damage is done before you feel the pain. It's not like he fake tapped or verbally tapped. Pierce tapped about 5 times before the ref literally dove in trying to break the sub. Palhares is playing dumb (or might actually be) if he thinks that fight wasn't over when Pierce tapped Phone Post 3.0
10/11/13 6:32 PM
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2 second delay in reaction isn't that bad when slamming on car breaks for fucks sake Phone Post
10/11/13 6:33 PM
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ender852 - 
B_Goetz - OP needs to get a heel hook cranked tighter after he taps.
If a heel hook is so devastating, then fucking ban it instead of holding its practitioners to a higher standard than other submissions Phone Post

Babalu got cut for refusing to release a choke. You have to let go of all subs when the ref stops the fight.
10/11/13 6:39 PM
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2.75 seconds in slow motion video?
10/11/13 6:47 PM
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DirtehSneakehs - And two incidents in two separate sports isnt what u call "well Documented". Phone Post
Like UFC 111 when he was suspended 90 days for holding another heel hook too long? Phone Post 3.0
10/11/13 6:51 PM
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A. Leglocks are very dangerous and anyone that is a supposed expert should know that.
B. He's a repeat offender.
C. He cranked even harder AFTER the ref jumped in. IT IS VERY CLEAR.

I hope most of you defending him are just trolling for fun. If you're not, good luck in life. You're values and perspective are twisted.
10/11/13 7:02 PM
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DirtehSneakehs -  And two incidents in two separate sports isnt what u call "well Documented". Phone Post

Sure, it was only two.  Except for this thread and video to the contrary.

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&thread=2236857&page=1

Please count them.  Is it four (4) times or five (5) times now that Palhares has been documented holding subs too long?

10/11/13 7:16 PM
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buvaiser - 2.75 seconds in slow motion video?
From when pierce first taps, not when the ref jumps in Phone Post
10/11/13 7:23 PM
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That's more then enough time to change a mans mobility for life Phone Post 3.0
10/11/13 7:27 PM
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Question is... Did he increase the sub for those 2.75 secs or did he just hold on to it or was he actually going down gradually on the strength put into the sub... Phone Post
10/11/13 7:28 PM
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ender852 -  2 second delay in reaction isn't that bad when slamming on car breaks for fucks sake Phone Post

What?
10/11/13 7:30 PM
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ShawnTheBadger - 

2.75 seconds is an eternity when someone is wrecking your knee as tendons and ligaments stretch till they pop.

2.75 seconds is a long time when someone is beating furiously on your leg in a clear and unmistakable "TAP".

2.75 seconds is a long time when your opponent is screaming and you ignore him.

2.75 seconds is a long time when most subs are released at the first touch of the refs hand (on Palhares shoulder in this case).

2.75 seconds is a long time when when Palhares actually cranks even harder for the last 1-second till he lets go.

2.75 seconds is a long time when Palhares has a very well documented history of holding subs too long.

 


This is like a prosecutor's closing argument in a murder trial. He didn't rape or kill anyone. If there is such outrage over heel hooks being held too long, and we are talking about seconds, ban them like in gi bjj. I think it was a bs move on palhares' s part but anymore of a dbag move then Henderson forebombing Bisping? Having arbritrary standard enforcement is like having no standards at all.
10/11/13 7:58 PM
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DrBoogerLips - A. Leglocks are very dangerous and anyone that is a supposed expert should know that.
B. He's a repeat offender.
C. He cranked even harder AFTER the ref jumped in. IT IS VERY CLEAR.

I hope most of you defending him are just trolling for fun. If you're not, good luck in life. You're values and perspective are twisted.

lol this.

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