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10/12/13 3:49 PM
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I was almost buying into the idiot-savant-like BJJ leg-lock specialist schtick.

"He's just a simple man, he doesn't understand, he loves Jesus, he gets too excited, forgets where he is, gets too focused, adrenalin....."

If that were actually true, I'd feel a bit sorry for him.  Rainman does BJJ.  Of Mice And Men.  Etc....  Still has no place in the UFC, but he'd have my sympathy if his IQ really was hovering around 70.

However with this latest bit of input (Voted UP OP) from Bustamante, I really think Palhares ego and love of his own "bad-ass leg-wrecker" reputation is what drives him to continuously hurt folks with his skills.

 


Thanks for the Vote UP.

Yeah, neither do I. I don't buy that he's too dumb to understand when to let go. He's an experienced grappler, who's considered one of the best in the world at leg locks.His grappling IQ must be high. It is a conscious decision to not let go.It doesn't matter whether its BJJ tournaments, practice, inside the cage, people get him around him.

A huge liability.


So basically he is a piece of shit who enjoys hurting others... Glad he's cut Phone Post 3.0
10/12/13 3:53 PM
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Damn, when an awesome guy like Bustamante says this, then Palhares has to be a complete douchebage.
10/12/13 3:55 PM
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I totally believe a gent like Busta.

No psychologist can help the disorder assholeism!
10/12/13 4:40 PM
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I believe Murilo, he's the man, I doubt he would really make this up. Phone Post 3.0
10/12/13 5:41 PM
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Interesting. We don't know where their relationship fell apart but man. I'm just feeling kind of sad about the whole thing right now

10/12/13 5:48 PM
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Murilo set the record straight here, if people want to doubt Murilo's honesty, then they need to take it up with him

10/12/13 10:09 PM
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there was a video of him in a tournament, he injured the other grapplers leg. although the opponent tapped out. I think he doesn't deserve to fight in a ufc. he wants to be an asshole and try to put fear in other people by seriously hurting their careers, than he doesn't deserve it.
10/12/13 10:24 PM
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Always been a big busta fan but whenever someone leaves a camp its hard to believe the bs that either side comes up with. Seems worse in Brazil, remember when nog, sperry, busta left carlson?
10/12/13 11:16 PM
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MIKE CIESNOLEVICZ - Murilo sounds bitter to me about Toquinho leaving maybe. Also when has Palharaes been talking shit about Bustamante or BTT?

You're a piece of work.

Murillo has more integrity in his morning shit than Palhares has ever had... and you are going to sit there and question him? When has Murillo ever lied or been dishonorable?

Palhares recently said that Bustamante's suggestion to see a psychologist was due to problems at BTT.. not because he actually needs to see one. Like Murillo said, the guy doesn't take responsibility. He makes excuses every time he loses and blamed his own team for his mental problems.
10/12/13 11:28 PM
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MIKE CIESNOLEVICZ - Murilo sounds bitter to me about Toquinho leaving maybe. Also when has Palharaes been talking shit about Bustamante or BTT?

You're a piece of work.

Murillo has more integrity in his morning shit than Palhares has ever had... and you are going to sit there and question him? When has Murillo ever lied or been dishonorable?

Palhares recently said that Bustamante's suggestion to see a psychologist was due to problems at BTT.. not because he actually needs to see one. Like Murillo said, the guy doesn't take responsibility. He makes excuses every time he loses and blamed his own team for his mental problems.

You're not going to convince the Palhares fans of anything. There's still people posting that he only tapped on the ref that 1 second is some infantessimal amount of time in BJJ subs, and that Palhares was in a zone, couldn't see the ref, it was the ref's fault ect.

Any other issue and Murilo and Dean Lister's opinion is gospel., but this issue, "ohh well yeah they are just biased and bitter"

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10/12/13 11:42 PM
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Good of Busta to chime in on this, he has an insight that even the most opinionated UG'er can't match.

I get why he was cut, serial rule infractions positive for gear isn't a good way to keep a job, but people saying he should have been cut for 'putting fear into opponents' need to probably rethink either their comment or their choice of sport to follow.

Intimidation is a pretty big factor in all sports, none more so than fighting. It was working alright for him too from time to time, he clearly got carried away with it though and it's costing him Phone Post 3.0
10/13/13 12:21 AM
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Keep in mind that Palhares already had a 90 suspension in the UFC for the SAME fucking thing.
10/13/13 6:11 AM
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J2C1 - Great thread. I was sort of on the fence about how much punishment Palhares deserved for this latest incident. Hearing from MB, his mentor and former coach, that he pulled this crap in training quite often is very telling. Dean Lister also seemed to confirm this in another thread. Palhares got what he deserved, I now believe. Phone Post
What did dean lister say? Phone Post 3.0
10/13/13 7:03 AM
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J2C1 - Great thread. I was sort of on the fence about how much punishment Palhares deserved for this latest incident. Hearing from MB, his mentor and former coach, that he pulled this crap in training quite often is very telling. Dean Lister also seemed to confirm this in another thread. Palhares got what he deserved, I now believe. Phone Post
What did dean lister say? Phone Post 3.0

He said it doesn't matter if he's a nice guy, deserves to be punished. He used DUI as an analogy.
10/13/13 11:50 AM
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This is Bull shit on Murilos part. Rousimar felt he was not being well trained. Aftre his fight vs Hector LOmbard, he knew he needed to make changes, and he left BTT. This is a bitter Murilo taking the oportunity to throw shit at him. In part, alll of this is Murilos fault, he never managed to control Rousimar. At tema Nogueira, Rousmar was training clean and easy, hurt no one, every one loves him
10/13/13 12:02 PM
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Bellator Fan - Guys that are good at leg locks tend to hurt others in the gym because those moves naturally hurt people. Palhares is a powerful guy so his pressure must be horrible. Phone Post 3.0

Quite the opposite: guys who are really good at leg locks understand the moves and tend to spaz/crank/panic less applying them than less experienced grapplers.

Example: If my instructor grabs hold of my foot, I'll test his lock to see if he's got it. If a blue or white get anywhere near my feet with a twisting lock, I'm tapping IMMEDIATELY.

If what you mean is that leg-lock are intrinsically dangerous, therefore people who go for them tend to injure their opponents more than people who don't, then you may have an argument.
This! A good guy knows when he has it. Phone Post
10/13/13 12:17 PM
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MIKE CIESNOLEVICZ - Murilo sounds bitter to me about Toquinho leaving maybe. Also when has Palharaes been talking shit about Bustamante or BTT?

You're a piece of work.

Murillo has more integrity in his morning shit than Palhares has ever had... and you are going to sit there and question him? When has Murillo ever lied or been dishonorable?

Palhares recently said that Bustamante's suggestion to see a psychologist was due to problems at BTT.. not because he actually needs to see one. Like Murillo said, the guy doesn't take responsibility. He makes excuses every time he loses and blamed his own team for his mental problems.

You deserve a vote down, but I won't do that.

Why don't your read the old Carlson Gracie interviews about why Murilo and friends left. Then ask when Murilo has been dishonorable. Too sides to every story. You think Carlson Gracie is a liar too?
10/13/13 12:23 PM
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In part, alll of this is Murilos fault, he never managed to control Rousimar.

LOL.  Really?  It's now partially Murilo's fault that Rousimar is an uncontrollable liability?!?

Keep grasping at straws and making excuses, blaming other folks, for what is clearly Palhares problem.

Where are the other guys on Murilos team that have a problem letting go of a sub in a timely fashion?

When has Murilo himself held a sub too long in competition?

 

 

Palhares has demonstrated over and over and over, that he is either a malicious and dirty fighter, or too simple and dimwitted to be allowed to compete.  Maybe both. He has no business EVER competing in a sactioned match of any sort, anywhere, at any time in the future.  He should be banned from every MMA and BJJ organization on Earth.

10/13/13 12:41 PM
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ttt for idiots comparing to bj penn
10/13/13 1:25 PM
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MIKE CIESNOLEVICZ - Murilo sounds bitter to me about Toquinho leaving maybe. Also when has Palharaes been talking shit about Bustamante or BTT?

You're a piece of work.

Murillo has more integrity in his morning shit than Palhares has ever had... and you are going to sit there and question him? When has Murillo ever lied or been dishonorable?

Palhares recently said that Bustamante's suggestion to see a psychologist was due to problems at BTT.. not because he actually needs to see one. Like Murillo said, the guy doesn't take responsibility. He makes excuses every time he loses and blamed his own team for his mental problems.

You sound bitter! Why you mad bro?
10/13/13 1:33 PM
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Busta is a legend in the business and a class act. It is hard for me to doubt what he says. Watching clips of Palhares in the past it is quite obvious that he is purposefully holding the subs too long in both fights and grappling tournaments. Even appears in some of them that after the ref intervenes he readjusts his grip to get an even deeper crank in before he releases.
10/13/13 1:40 PM
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anytime someone says something like “I wouldn’t normally say anything because usually what happens inside Brazilian Top Team stays inside Brazilian Top Team." and then proceeds to do exactly what they said they wouldn't normally do, I immediately distrust them.

10/13/13 1:58 PM
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Murillo and co back in the day: Carlson takes our money, is never around, wants to be American, etc...

Murillo today: How dare one of my students question me! Phone Post 3.0
10/13/13 1:58 PM
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That being said, I agree with Busta Phone Post 3.0
10/13/13 2:46 PM
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End all Paul Harris thread with this!! should be the title. Phone Post

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