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10/15/13 3:25 PM
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97177 VINNY MAGALHAES - BRAZIL +120
97178 ANTWAIN BRITT - USA +2000
97179 ALEXANDER TRANS - DENMARK +3500
97180 JARED DOPP - USA +2500
97181 MICHAEL WILSON - AUSTRALIA +4000
97182 ROBBY DONOFRIO - USA +4500
97183 HIDEKI SEKINE - JAPAN +7500
97184 JANNE PIETILAINEN - FINLAND +6500
97185 MARCUS ALMEIDA "BUCHECHA" - BRAZIL +250
97186 KITNER MENDOGA - BRAZIL +500
97187 ROBERTO "CYBORG" ABREU - BRAZIL +180
97188 ORLANDO SANCHEZ - USA +3500
97189 JAO GABRIEL DE OLIVERA - BRAZIL +3500
97190 MIKE MARTELLE - CANADA +8500
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10/15/13 4:24 PM
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Cyborg and Vinny the favorites to win!

Have they fought before? Phone Post 3.0
10/15/13 5:52 PM
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How is buchecha not the favorite?
10/15/13 5:52 PM
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Has anybody beat him recently?
10/15/13 5:56 PM
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frumpy - How is buchecha not the favorite?
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10/15/13 6:13 PM
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Vinny has beaten Buchecha before would of that come into play? Phone Post
10/15/13 6:33 PM
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thegreatone287 -  Vinny has beaten Buchecha before would of that come into play? Phone Post

I saw that. By heel hook back in 2009 i think. He's done a lot since then. Fared very well vs. Roger and Rodolfo last year. I think those two would have been favored over anybody in the world in open weight and I think the consensus was that he looked better than either of them. Vinny and Cyborg are great. I am still surprised they are favored over Buchecha even on an opening line
10/15/13 7:03 PM
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Has Buchecha competed NOGI much at all?
10/15/13 7:30 PM
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There's a lot of small guys for that to be 99 , it looks more like the 88-99 from years past Phone Post 3.0
10/15/13 7:32 PM
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thegreatone287 -  Vinny has beaten Buchecha before would of that come into play? Phone Post

I saw that. By heel hook back in 2009 i think. He's done a lot since then. Fared very well vs. Roger and Rodolfo last year. I think those two would have been favored over anybody in the world in open weight and I think the consensus was that he looked better than either of them. Vinny and Cyborg are great. I am still surprised they are favored over Buchecha even on an opening line

i would not bet against buchecha on anything right now

10/15/13 8:01 PM
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Foos - Has Buchecha competed NOGI much at all?

I'm just looking through his wilkipedia record and it is predominantly in the gi.
10/15/13 8:13 PM
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Davi Ramos beat Buchecha at the absolute of Abu Dhabi Pro in 2012 (toe hold) , one year Buchecha had competed against Vinny;
Jonatas "Tagarela" Gurgel tapped him out with a RNC in 2011 (nogi)
Vinny tapped him out also with a Toe hold in 2011 (nogi), before Vinny was even before Vinny was ADCC Champion.

Buchecha has been tapped out in nogi matches while Vinny has posted here before that he has never been tapped out in nogi matches. One of Buchecha's losses was to Vinny.

Rules in ADCC Allow many things that are not allowed in ANY gi competition, including leg reaping, heels hooks, Slamming to defend submissions , etc.

In 2011 Rodolfo was then what Buchecha is today, the Absolute "GI" BJJ World Champion, and was supposed to run through everyone in ADCC. He did well, until he faced Dean Lister and got tapped out.

That being said, I think Buchecha will do well, until he faces someone like Vinny or Cyborg who are competing in the ADCC for the 3rd time and have more experience under those rules. Phone Post 3.0
10/15/13 8:53 PM
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10/15/13 8:58 PM
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Vaginal Tear - Davi Ramos beat Buchecha at the absolute of Abu Dhabi Pro in 2012 (toe hold) , one year Buchecha had competed against Vinny;
Jonatas "Tagarela" Gurgel tapped him out with a RNC in 2011 (nogi)
Vinny tapped him out also with a Toe hold in 2011 (nogi), before Vinny was even before Vinny was ADCC Champion.

Buchecha has been tapped out in nogi matches while Vinny has posted here before that he has never been tapped out in nogi matches. One of Buchecha's losses was to Vinny.

Rules in ADCC Allow many things that are not allowed in ANY gi competition, including leg reaping, heels hooks, Slamming to defend submissions , etc.

In 2011 Rodolfo was then what Buchecha is today, the Absolute "GI" BJJ World Champion, and was supposed to run through everyone in ADCC. He did well, until he faced Dean Lister and got tapped out.

That being said, I think Buchecha will do well, until he faces someone like Vinny or Cyborg who are competing in the ADCC for the 3rd time and have more experience under those rules. Phone Post 3.0
Great username and great post Phone Post 3.0
10/15/13 9:07 PM
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That one vid where vinny gets armbar red and escapes an armbar that was past deep for like 45 seconds is insane. I think it was against roger but I don't remember for sure. Phone Post 3.0
10/15/13 9:27 PM
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AlchemyIronworks - That one vid where vinny gets armbar red and escapes an armbar that was past deep for like 45 seconds is insane. I think it was against roger but I don't remember for sure. Phone Post 3.0

Was against Werdum
10/15/13 9:42 PM
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Vaginal Tear - Davi Ramos beat Buchecha at the absolute of Abu Dhabi Pro in 2012 (toe hold) , one year Buchecha had competed against Vinny;
Jonatas "Tagarela" Gurgel tapped him out with a RNC in 2011 (nogi)
Vinny tapped him out also with a Toe hold in 2011 (nogi), before Vinny was even before Vinny was ADCC Champion.

Buchecha has been tapped out in nogi matches while Vinny has posted here before that he has never been tapped out in nogi matches. One of Buchecha's losses was to Vinny.

Rules in ADCC Allow many things that are not allowed in ANY gi competition, including leg reaping, heels hooks, Slamming to defend submissions , etc.

In 2011 Rodolfo was then what Buchecha is today, the Absolute "GI" BJJ World Champion, and was supposed to run through everyone in ADCC. He did well, until he faced Dean Lister and got tapped out.

That being said, I think Buchecha will do well, until he faces someone like Vinny or Cyborg who are competing in the ADCC for the 3rd time and have more experience under those rules. Phone Post 3.0
Great username and great post Phone Post 3.0

I didn't even realize buchecha was in the ultimate absolute 2011. I remember Vinny doing real well in that tourney and the epic final with Rustam and Galvao. Looks like the toehold has been his downfall since vinny and ramos both got him with it. Iv'e seen ramos at the no gi pan ams and he has some mean foot locks. But mad props to him since he is way smaller than buchecha. I guess my question has been answered
10/15/13 9:54 PM
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Anyone know of a steam or way to see this? Won't be on Australian TV in a million years Phone Post 3.0
10/15/13 10:53 PM
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Lets do this Orlando! Phone Post
10/16/13 9:26 PM
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Couldabeen - Anyone know of a steam or way to see this? Won't be on Australian TV in a million years Phone Post 3.0
If anyone knows, please share. Phone Post 3.0
10/17/13 10:22 AM
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http://adcombat.com/adcc-worlds-2013-live-sream
10/17/13 10:30 AM
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albo2020 - http://adcombat.com/adcc-worlds-2013-live-sream
Thanks for that...

Does seem ridiculously obvious in hindsight Phone Post 3.0
10/17/13 10:31 AM
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Info on streaming the event? Phone Post
10/17/13 11:18 AM
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^My bad...post up top didn't show up. Thanks. Phone Post
10/17/13 11:30 AM
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albo2020 - http://adcombat.com/adcc-worlds-2013-live-sream
Thanks for that...

Does seem ridiculously obvious in hindsight Phone Post 3.0
Haha. Yeah. Phone Post 3.0

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