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10/17/13 4:00 PM
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Rousimar Palhares submission of Mike Pierce would have been mostly an after thought after UFC 29, but since Palhares maliciously held the submission, it's been the most talked about event of the past few weeks. Palhares was subsequently banned from the UFC for life and yesterday during a media event for UFC 166, Dana White called the act 'really despicable':

"He knew what he was doing that night," Dana White said on FOX Sports Live on Wednesday.  "Apparently, there was some talk where Mike Pierce said some bad things and everything else. There is no place for that in this sport. You don't hold a leglock that long while the guy is tapping and you know he is tapping. Especially that's what Palhares is known for -- he's the best in the world in leglocks. What he did was wrong and really despicable what he did. He won't be back. He can go fight with another organization. We don't put up with that stuff here."

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10/17/13 4:05 PM
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10/17/13 4:09 PM
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...Unless you want an eternal asterisk by the 170lb division champ!

 

This is a fight. Let's keep it that way. Pierce tapped the ref a few times and Toquinho held it for maybe 3-4 seconds. Is that worse then Hendo forearm smashing a clearly unconcious Bisping?

10/17/13 4:11 PM
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The only way that you can prevent this kind of thing from happening again is by having a second ref, outside the cage, watching on a monitor with a blow horn. When the ref sees the fighter tap, the ref blows the horn stoping the fight.

If you don't do that, the fighter has to hold his sub until the ref physically stops the fight. On this case he held on for 1.08 seconds. Which is probably a normal reaction time. Phone Post 3.0
10/17/13 4:15 PM
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this is a sport, not a tough man contest.

palhares' technique is really entertaining, but if he can't control himself in a fighting sport, he needs to sit down for a while. he has had ample chances to stop holding on too long.


10/17/13 4:24 PM
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...Unless you want an eternal asterisk by the 170lb division champ!

 

This is a fight. Let's keep it that way. Pierce tapped the ref a few times and Toquinho held it for maybe 3-4 seconds. Is that worse then Hendo forearm smashing a clearly unconcious Bisping?

Hendo smashed the Count before the ref jumped in so Paul Harris' post tap crank was much worse. As parents say to a child. Two wrongs don't make a right. Phone Post
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If the guy was a rookie fighter who just got caught up in the heat of the moment then maybe he would deserve a second chance, but the guy has a well documented history of doing this so IMO his punishment is a fair one
10/17/13 4:38 PM
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ShowtimeWreckedMyLeever - The only way that you can prevent this kind of thing from happening again is by having a second ref, outside the cage, watching on a monitor with a blow horn. When the ref sees the fighter tap, the ref blows the horn stoping the fight.

If you don't do that, the fighter has to hold his sub until the ref physically stops the fight. On this case he held on for 1.08 seconds. Which is probably a normal reaction time. Phone Post 3.0

LOL at this nonsense. I believe Dana has already demonstrated there is another way to prevent this - fire the guy that most consistently, blatantly and maliciously does it. People take notice and stop doing it. Problem solved. This aint that complicated, everyone with half a brain, a basic understanding of jiujitsu and a working moral compass knows this shit is wrong.
10/17/13 5:02 PM
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Jafar i know what you mean but see my post above and see if you can understand where i am coming from with my statement. 

 

Again im not trying to defend Palhares or argue for him, what he did was very wrong as i said.  


no, it is just what you are saying is fucking dumb,

 

you cannot compare holding onto subs too long multiple times to ronda annoying you (no matter how much it butthurts you)

 

ronda can be as annoying as she wants as long as she is not being racist (real racist), anti-fag, or pro rape.

she can flip her opponents off all day if she wants. that is not going to ge the ire of special interest group (you know, like the faghags and stuff)

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Dana did the right thing
10/17/13 5:11 PM
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Jafar i know what you mean but see my post above and see if you can understand where i am coming from with my statement. 

 

Again im not trying to defend Palhares or argue for him, what he did was very wrong as i said.  


no, it is just what you are saying is fucking dumb,

 

you cannot compare holding onto subs too long multiple times to ronda annoying you (no matter how much it butthurts you)

 

ronda can be as annoying as she wants as long as she is not being racist (real racist), anti-fag, or pro rape.

she can flip her opponents off all day if she wants. that is not going to ge the ire of special interest group (you know, like the faghags and stuff)

Ummm ok take a few steps back pick up the binger and reeeeelaaaaaax. Phone Post 3.0
10/17/13 5:16 PM
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10/17/13 6:14 PM
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...Unless you want an eternal asterisk by the 170lb division champ!

Because a guy that couldn't manage better than 7 and 4 as a 185'er, dropped down and won one (1) fight before being righteously cut, there is forever an asterisk by the Champs name.

The same guy who also has already been suspended once for holding a sub too long, and suspended on a separate occassion for PEDs.

Is that your arguement?  That cutting a twice-unsportsmanlike cheater who had an overall record of 8 and 4 in the UFC leaves a blemish on GSP's career?

You're either delusional, very dumb, or high-as-fuck.

10/17/13 6:24 PM
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...Unless you want an eternal asterisk by the 170lb division champ!

Because a guy that couldn't manage better than 7 and 4 as a 185'er, dropped down and won one (1) fight before being righteously cut, there is forever an asterisk by the Champs name.

The same guy who also has already been suspended once for holding a sub too long, and suspended on a separate occassion for PEDs.

Is that your arguement?  That cutting a twice-unsportsmanlike cheater who had an overall record of 8 and 4 in the UFC leaves a blemish on GSP's career?

You're either delusional, very dumb, or high-as-fuck.

I think he was being funny... Paul Harris is a beast at 170 tho Phone Post 3.0
10/17/13 6:30 PM
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no more paul harris thread...

10/17/13 6:46 PM
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Palhares held the sub for 2.75 seconds after Pierce tapped, and 1.08 seconds after the ref jumped in.
What a monster...
Fuck you Dana, you're just cutting him as a PR stunt, Palhares did NOTHING wrong in that fight besides running threw Pierce like wet Kleenex. Phone Post
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Palhares held the sub for 2.75 seconds after Pierce tapped, and 1.08 seconds after the ref jumped in.
What a monster...
Fuck you Dana, you're just cutting him as a PR stunt, Palhares did NOTHING wrong in that fight besides running threw Pierce like wet Kleenex. Phone Post
10/17/13 6:51 PM
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ShowtimeWreckedMyLeever - The only way that you can prevent this kind of thing from happening again is by having a second ref, outside the cage, watching on a monitor with a blow horn. When the ref sees the fighter tap, the ref blows the horn stoping the fight.

If you don't do that, the fighter has to hold his sub until the ref physically stops the fight. On this case he held on for 1.08 seconds. Which is probably a normal reaction time. Phone Post 3.0

LOL at this nonsense. I believe Dana has already demonstrated there is another way to prevent this - fire the guy that most consistently, blatantly and maliciously does it. People take notice and stop doing it. Problem solved. This aint that complicated, everyone with half a brain, a basic understanding of jiujitsu and a working moral compass knows this shit is wrong.

End all argument with this.  

Fighter's perspective.

10/17/13 7:11 PM
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Paul Harris does have a history but he's not responsible for letting the sub go until After the ref says stop and/or steps in!
10/17/13 7:25 PM
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I think there shouldve been a large unsportsmanlike conduct fine and 6 months before a fight can be offered and a final warning. Phone Post
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White, who is built like a fighter, is exactly right
10/17/13 7:35 PM
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...Unless you want an eternal asterisk by the 170lb division champ!

 

This is a fight. Let's keep it that way. Pierce tapped the ref a few times and Toquinho held it for maybe 3-4 seconds. Is that worse then Hendo forearm smashing a clearly unconcious Bisping?


DW freed him:)

 

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10/17/13 7:37 PM
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Dana White is correct.

10/17/13 7:43 PM
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All I got out of that was that he's the best in the world and he will be fighting in an organization that's NOT the UFC.
10/17/13 7:44 PM
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what's despicable is anything that comes out of Dana's mouth

 

hate to see what goes in it

 


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